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UNITED 93:THE CLINTON-9/11 NEXUS-(corrected)
4.30.06 | Mia T

Posted on 04/29/2006 9:43:35 PM PDT by Mia T

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To: Sic Luceat Lux

The clintons always use the corporate 'we' when they are blaming others for their failures.

They reserve "I" for those times--which are many--when they are arrogating the achievements of others as their own.


51 posted on 04/30/2006 11:53:39 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
your views?

On what exactly?

52 posted on 04/30/2006 11:56:30 AM PDT by jla
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To: jla

have you seen the movie?


53 posted on 04/30/2006 12:04:58 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
The clintons always use the corporate 'we' when they are blaming others for their failures

And that is only when they are generous. It's more often 'they.'

54 posted on 04/30/2006 12:06:47 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Sic Luceat Lux

meant this for you.


55 posted on 04/30/2006 12:07:24 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

No, I haven't seen the movie.


56 posted on 04/30/2006 12:09:19 PM PDT by jla
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To: jla

oh... ok


57 posted on 04/30/2006 12:16:55 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Were you referring to yours or the actual film, United 93?


58 posted on 04/30/2006 12:19:30 PM PDT by jla
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To: Mia T

bump


59 posted on 04/30/2006 12:26:41 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Mia T

If anything 'good', (for lack of a better and more compassionate term), came out of the fate of United flight 93 it threw a monkey wrench into the terrorists' plans for future hijackings.


60 posted on 04/30/2006 12:31:12 PM PDT by jla
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To: Mia T

Actually, no. Hadn't thought to check, I'd never had a problem before. But now none of them will work, so I'll got to the next post and reload.


61 posted on 04/30/2006 1:02:56 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

let me know how it goes. :)


62 posted on 04/30/2006 1:03:51 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: jla
I think United 93 demonstrated to bin Laden and his followers that the clintons and the left are an aberration: Americans will not "just sit here and do nothing...."

(Recall what bin Laden said about clinton/Somalia and the American troops in 1998, right before he bombed the embassies.)

Bin Laden was emboldened by the 8 years of the clintons' feckless and corrupt action and feckless and corrupt inaction....

63 posted on 04/30/2006 1:15:18 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

It says Macromedia is now a part of Adobe. And Adobe hates my guts. And, my computer says my security will not permit me to download. I don't know what happened, I could click the pics fine yesterday!


64 posted on 04/30/2006 1:29:14 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

I am using a mac and osx, but this probably applies to you, too.

did you follow this instruction?
'Installation of Macromedia Flash Player may require administrative access to your PC, which is normally provided by your IT department. For the installation to succeed, you will be asked to close all open browser windows during the installation.'


65 posted on 04/30/2006 2:05:10 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: freema

How did it go?


66 posted on 04/30/2006 6:56:53 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

bttt


67 posted on 04/30/2006 8:36:04 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Mia T

Malfeasence as well as nonfeasence underlies each grotesque death, each terrible moment of agony and horror on or because of 9/11, including Flight 93.

The Gorelick Wall, a delusional non-constitutional self imposed institutional amnesia, the suppression of the ABLE DANGER information and methodology, which specifically identifed several members of the 9/11 conspiracy in advance, are examples of this malfeasence.

The major media continue to conspire in averting and diverting attention from these destructive actions that have direct causual links to the losses of 9/11. The heroism of 9/11's flight 93 passengers demonstrates that given the right information, average americans did and would make heroic choices, demonstating the media's role in subduing support of aggressive action against the perpetrators of 9/11 by hiding relevant facts is critical and vital to the lefts ongoing efforts to sabotage U.S. policy and efforts in Iraq Afghanistan and elsewhere against the organized efforts of Islamic Radicals to kill innocents around the world.


68 posted on 04/30/2006 8:42:12 PM PDT by Gail Wynand (Why not "virtual citizenship"?)
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To: Gail Wynand
Excellent take!
The media--off with their heads, yes!

But malfeasance and nonfeasance exist on the right, too.
The Bush bully pulpit, inexplicably, lies dormant (bush is lousy at this, but he can delegate, can't he?)
and the DC gasbags on the right (professional pols all) are too busy protecting their left flank and rear to comment.
(We have to start fielding and electing what the Founders had in mind--citizen politicians.)

Reverse Gorelick

by Mia T, 4.15.04
QUINN IN THE MORNING (ESSAY DISCUSSED)
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MP3, REAL, WINDOWS MEDIA, WINAMP)




thanx to Fixit for the audio

Once the clintons' own U.S. attorneys were in place, once the opposition was disemboweled by the knowledge that their raw FBI files had been in the possession of the clintons, once domestic law enforcement was effectively blinded to foreign data by Gorelick's Wall, the clintons were free to methodically and seditiously and with impunity auction off America's security, sovereignty and economy to the highest foreign bidder.

 

 


 

e would have it backwards and miss the point entirely if we were to attribute The Gorelick Wall and the attendant metastasis of al Qaeda during the clintons' watch, (which, incidentally, was then in its incipient stage and stoppable), to the '60s liberal mindset.

Rampant '60s liberalism was not the underlying rationale for The Gorelick Wall.

Rather, The Gorelick Wall was the underlying rationale for--The Gorelick Wall was (insofar as '60s liberalism was the Wall's apparent impetus) a cynical cover for --the willful, methodical malpractice and malfeasance that was the product of the virulent clinton strain of rampant '60s liberalism.

While it is true that The Gorelick Wall was the convenient device of a cowardly self-serving president, The Wall's aiding and abetting of al Qaeda was largely incidental, (the pervasiveness of the clintons' Nobel-Peace-Prize calculus notwithstanding).

The Wall was engineered primarily to protect a corrupt self-serving president. The metastasis of al Qaeda and 9/11 were simply the cost of doing business, clinton-style.

Further confirmation that the Wall was cover for clinton corruption:

  • Gorelick's failure to disclose the fact that she authored the memo that was the efficient cause of 911
  • Gorelick's surreal presence on the 911 commission investigating Gorelick's Justice Department, a maneuver that effectively removes from the universe of witnesses a central witness, Gorelick, even as it uniquely positions a central player, Gorelick, to directly shape the commission's conclusions. (Is there any question which two people are responsible for Gorelick's insertion on the commission?)

Conversely, that it never occurred to anyone on the commission that Gorelick's flagrant conflict of interest renders her presence on the commission beyond farce calls into question the commission's judgment if not its integrity. Washington's mutual protection racket writ large, I suspect....

The Gorelick Wall is consistent with, and an international extension of, two essential acts committed in tandem, Filegate, the simultaneous empowering of the clintons and disemboweling of clinton adversaries, and the clinton Putsch, the firing and replacement of every U.S. attorney extant.

Filegate and the clinton Putsch,
committed in tandem,
the product of a careful criminal calculus,
at once empowered clinton
and disemboweled his opponents.
clinton was now free to betray with abandon
not only our trust,
but the Constitution as well.

The Common Man
Mia T
February, 1998

 

Allegations of international clinton crimes swirling around the White House in 1995 and beyond support the thesis that the Wall was cover for international clinton crimes.

Once the clintons' own U.S. attorneys were in place, once the opposition was disemboweled by the knowledge that their raw FBI files had been in the possession of the clintons, once domestic law enforcement was effectively blinded to foreign data by Gorelick's Wall, the clintons were free to methodically and seditiously and with impunity auction off America's security, sovereignty and economy to the highest foreign bidder.


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69 posted on 04/30/2006 9:45:31 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Gail Wynand
 

ON WARRANTLESS SEARCHES AND WIRETAPS:
THE ABYSMAL CONSTITUTIONAL RECORD OF BILL + HILLARY CLINTON
(and this report covers only term #1)


I often wonder whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon constitutions, upon laws and upon courts. These are false hopes; believe me, these are false hopes. Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it.

LEARNED HAND


Since there are occasions when every vessel will break from her moorings, and since, if she does, she becomes a menace to those about her; the owner's duty, as in other similar situations, to provide against resulting injuries is a function of three variables: (1) The probability that she will break away; (2) the gravity of the resulting injury, if she does; (3) the burden of adequate precautions. Possibly it serves to bring this notion into relief to state it in algebraic terms: if the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B<PL.

LEARNED HAND
United States v. Carroll Towing Co.
159 F.2d 169 (2d Cir. 1947)


 

deconstructing clinton… "just because I could"


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REDACTION LOOPHOLE: ACCESS TO THE BARRETT REPORT

 

by Mia T, 01.20.06  



he judges who redacted 120 pages of the Barrett report have, if not a sense of justice, a sense of humor. In their rulings, they provide a mechanism by which the people can see the redactions, but for which at least one honest, selfless, courageous member of Congress is required.


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70 posted on 04/30/2006 10:09:13 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: jla

The actual.


71 posted on 04/30/2006 10:13:56 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
The actual.

No, I haven't, I'll probably will wait on the DVD.

(the rain chased be back inside, though when it has passed it'll have helped to expedite my grass plug planting.)

72 posted on 05/03/2006 11:25:52 AM PDT by jla
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To: Gail Wynand

I've got MANY different Libs on other boards trying to explain how Flight 93 is all a LIE, and that BUSH shot the plane down.....

How the hell do bring REALITY to these people???


73 posted on 05/03/2006 1:02:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Liberalism-What a Pagan Religion...)
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To: Mia T

It is disgraceful to see once again what a foolish, irresponsible and weak President Clinton was.

Under no circumstances should he be given a 3rd term. Never forget "buy one, get one free".


74 posted on 05/03/2006 1:06:18 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO WANT TO TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY !)
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To: tcrlaf; Mia T

The kool-aid drinkers will not change their minds. If widely viewed the movie United 93 will help connect the Great American Public ("GAP") with reality, at least for a while.

The national anthem should be played each evening on every TV station in the US at signoff (do they still have signoffs?) or after the late, late show, against a back drop of the people jumping out of the twin towers on 9/11. It should be done until we have won the war against Islamic Totalitarianism.


75 posted on 05/03/2006 3:19:28 PM PDT by Gail Wynand (Why not "virtual citizenship"?)
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To: Cincinna
bump!

I would add pathological, treasonous, inept and corrupt to your list. What unmitigated gall of these two grotesqueries to even contemplate a sequel.

76 posted on 05/03/2006 7:15:40 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Gail Wynand

bump


77 posted on 05/03/2006 7:17:18 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Gail Wynand

bump


78 posted on 05/05/2006 7:28:27 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

thanks again :)


79 posted on 05/06/2006 7:19:01 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Sic Luceat Lux; Gail Wynand; jla; JustPiper; All
United 93 is very un-Hollywood.
Spielberg could take some lessons from Greengrass.


CLOSE ENCOUNTER OF THE WORST KIND

January 9, 2006
Reviewer: miat22 (Mia T)

... to borrow a phrase, perversely, from a Spielberg flick about benign intelligence.

Munich, with its false premises, phony pieties and outright lies -- Spielberg fantasy wrapped in sober documentary -- is a verisimilitudinous contrivance that is pernicious, especially now, especially here, especially if we understand Spielberg's real motivation.

Truth matters not at all to Spielberg, and courage matters even less. To advance his fallacious argument, he has Golda Meir speak words she never said, never would have said and, obviously, cannot now disavow. Posthumous misappropriation is a preferred tactic of the abject coward.

Munich is less about Meir avenging the Munich massacre than it is about Bush waging the War on Terror. The historical Munich allusion of appeasement, self-loathing and psychologizing that is practiced so fastidiously by the American Left
today is key to understanding Spielberg.

The core of his anti-war argument: By fighting back, we become our enemy. Ironically, with Munich, the same can now be said of Spielberg.

Is Spielberg humanizing the terrorist really any different from Riefenstahl humanizing Hitler? If anything, Spielberg is more contemptible. Whereas Riefenstahl symbolizes the naïve actress and director who is induced to deal with devils, Spielberg is self-actuated and aware.

Hollywood is DreamWorks, fantastical and unthinking and solipsistic by definition.

To mitigate its danger, people capable of critical thinking must take on Hollywood... and must do so in Hollywood venues.

The printed word, sad to say, no longer carries the day.



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80 posted on 05/08/2006 5:19:39 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

United 93 is an ugly, terrifying, horrible truth, just as the '76 Olympics was similarly a terrifiying horrible bloodbath brought to the world by the same species of Islamic Totalitarianism that has been visiting bloodbath after senseless bloodbath since at least Algeria in the early 1960's.

Spielberg/hollywood smugly believe they are superior to Bush because "they dont take sides" because all violent conflict is "destructive". The hollywood elite "know" they have a higher consciousness than Bush. They "know" they could reach the "humanity" in our enemies, who are like children that may need a time out, but who we must not seriously harm with our violence.

11 young Isreali atheletes, or 40 Americans boarding a flight at the local airport. In the view of the hollywood elite, it is the failure of the West to anticipate, understand and "connect" with generations of murderous fanatics that is the cause of the west's terrorist afflictions.

Unlike the "cowboy" Bush, whose instinct at least is to join the terrorist enemy in limited battle, Spielberg/Streisand/Reiner et al are certain (knowing wink) that he (Bush) is only making things worse.

Quite simply, these are the same kind of Americans who agonized for years about the US dropping the "big one" on the japs - another group of diplomacy resistent beligerents until their core beliefs were shaken at the nuclear level and until Douglas MacArthur was given a free hand and five years to effect their re-education.

In November 1943 the marines on Tarawa lost 1000 men, killing nearly 5000 japanese who fought to the last man woman and child. With those statistics what moron would have foregone use of the bomb and invaded the japanese mainland with conventional allied forces (and as well allowed partitioning of Japan with Soviet forces)?

America has now lost 3000 citizens in 9/11, 2400 men in Iraq and more in Afghanistan. To their credit Bush and Rumsfield have actually kept American casualities low. The left has paralized Bush in dealing with Iran and Syria, however. But, make no mistake about it, the 17 year old female Islamic suicide bomber is as lethal as a Japanese Kamakazi (which was far more lethal than the American public was ever told at the time. The lessons of the "greatest generation" should not be quickly forgotten. There is no substitute for Victory. Victory requires application of superior force until an enemy unconditionally surrenders. It is both ironic and meaningful that "peace in our time" through negotiated understanding, was also a message from Munich, delivered by Prime Minister Chamberlin in 1938. Just as with the Spielberg's message of moral equivalence of today, if their appeasment compulstions should become national policy, 10's of millions, not mere thousands would likely ultimately die containing the festering evil that is seeking nuclear weapons in Tehran.


81 posted on 05/08/2006 7:09:51 PM PDT by Gail Wynand (Why not "virtual citizenship"?)
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To: Mia T

Bump for your continous hard work Mia


82 posted on 05/08/2006 8:48:29 PM PDT by JustPiper (So say your fond farewells! Mecha means fuse, and it is lit !)
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To: Gail Wynand; All
Precisely.

'UNITED 93' vs. 'MUNICH'
Paul Greengrass--thank the stars--is no Steven Spielberg

83 posted on 05/10/2006 4:09:50 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Gail Wynand; All

The left has paralized Bush in dealing with Iran and Syria, however. But, make no mistake about it, the 17 year old female Islamic suicide bomber is as lethal as a Japanese Kamakazi (which was far more lethal than the American public was ever told at the time).

Indeed, the lessons of the "greatest generation" should not be quickly forgotten: There is no substitute for Victory. Victory requires application of superior force until an enemy unconditionally surrenders.

Unfortunately, it is both ironic and meaningful that "peace in our time" through negotiated understanding, was also a message from Munich, delivered by Prime Minister Chamberlin in 1938 on behalf of the knowing progressives of the era.

Just as with the Spielberg's message of moral equivalence today, if the elite left's appeasment compulsions should become national policy as they desire, 10's of millions, not mere thousands will likely ultimately die containing the festering evil of Islamic Gangsterism that is, among other obscenities, currently seeking nuclear weapons in Tehran.

--Gail Wynand


 
FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU! FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME! 

84 posted on 05/11/2006 6:42:49 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: JustPiper

thank you :)


85 posted on 05/15/2006 6:50:42 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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