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Puerto Rican government, $1 billion in red, may shut down
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | April 30, 2006 | Frances Robles (A.P.)

Posted on 04/30/2006 10:22:11 AM PDT by Graybeard58

MIAMI -- Up to 50,000 Puerto Ricans facing massive layoffs because of a $1 billion government budget deficit marched to the capitol building in San Juan Friday to demand a solution to the fiscal crisis.

The protest stretched over three miles. Armed with signs and T-shirts that declared, "Puerto Rico Shouts!," civil servants, students and union members focused their ire on Puerto Rico's House of Representatives.

The opposition-dominated House has refused Gov. Anibal Acevedo Vila's request for a $638 million line of credit to keep the government afloat until June 30, the end of the fiscal year.

"We're calling for them to reach an agreement, that they sign all that they need to sign so the Puerto Rican worker is not thrown out into the street and left without work," San Juan teacher Nilda Marrero told The Associated Press. "They must leave this game behind."

The governor ordered 43 of 118 government agencies closed next Monday, saying public coffers have run out of cash.

Acevedo insists the only answer is the loan from the Government Development Bank, which would be paid back with a 7 percent sales tax.

The Senate approved a $531 million loan on Monday, but the House has refused, arguing that drastic budget cuts and tax reform are the only solution. The House has proposed a 4 percent tax instead.

Late Thursday, the House approved the use of $114.5 million from emergency funds, which the governor's office has said is not nearly enough.

The Senate meets again late today, with officials hoping for an 11th-hour agreement.

"The governor has been very successful at projecting this as an issue where the legislature is at fault," said economist Carlos Colon, a New Progressive Party senate advisor. "The governor has to show some flexibility. If he were to close the government with a viable solution on the table, he's going to find public perception turning against him."

The New Progressive Party, which advocates statehood for Puerto Rico, insists the governor created the crisis by overspending.

The use of $114 million would cover paychecks for at least a few weeks and force the governor to make drastic budget cuts.

"I am ready to sign the $114 million, but that doesn't resolve the situation," Acevedo told Puerto Rican TV and radio stations. "We have to keep up the pressure. The solution is the loan with guaranteed payment. I can sign everything they approved, and nothing changes Monday's scenario."

The scenario is dire: 572,000 schoolchildren would be shut out of class, and 75,758 public school employees out of work. A total of about 95,762 public employees would be laid off and many more would see pay cuts.

Emergency services such as jails, police and hospitals would run using the funds from the shuttered agencies.


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1 posted on 04/30/2006 10:22:13 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Great, that means more of them will be going to New York.....


2 posted on 04/30/2006 10:22:48 AM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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To: Meadow Muffin

Man you took the words right out of my mouth. But you can toss in S FL there as well.


3 posted on 04/30/2006 10:26:05 AM PDT by stm (Our country and world are at a crossroads; taking the wrong path is not an option.)
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To: Graybeard58
"Democracy will only succeed until the population realizes it can vote itself largess from the treasury."

Probably one of the most insightful proclamations ever penned.
4 posted on 04/30/2006 10:26:19 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: stm

AMEN! Maybe we can give Puerto Rico their independence!


5 posted on 04/30/2006 10:29:35 AM PDT by ethics
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To: Meadow Muffin
Yep...NY welfare rolls will swell some more with the beast's blessing.
6 posted on 04/30/2006 10:31:19 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Graybeard58

Send in Bill Clinton. He'll make sure the interns don't get bored.


7 posted on 04/30/2006 10:31:35 AM PDT by AZLiberty (America is the hope of all men who believe in the principle of freedom and justice. - A. Einstein)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
Minorities and Democrats are the first to learn that they can get largess from the treasury and place the burden upon the backs of the rest of us. Why is it that African and Hispanic majority ruled areas are the first to go bankrupt? Yes, many Euros do the same but only when a significant number of "others" are brought into the society.
8 posted on 04/30/2006 10:32:42 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: ethics
er, guess what -- they don't want independence
9 posted on 04/30/2006 10:33:17 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Graybeard58

Hmm, perhaps they could have used the money from that Navy base they forced to close....


10 posted on 04/30/2006 10:36:14 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Graybeard58

When we honeymooned in PR the tour guide kept proclaiming "You don't want to know how much money the US sends us"! The tour bus ran into 3 parked cars and one stop sign during our tour, and never stopped. It turned my stomach and convinced me to never vote to make them a state.


11 posted on 04/30/2006 10:37:04 AM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: Graybeard58

That's nothing. Shelby County, Tennessee is in debt by that much and more. The rest of Tennesee COMBINED doesn't have that kind of debt problem.


12 posted on 04/30/2006 10:39:18 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Graybeard58
Puerto Rico, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Washington DC, Detroit, whats the difference.
13 posted on 04/30/2006 10:40:31 AM PDT by BIGZ
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To: NCC-1701

Why?


14 posted on 04/30/2006 10:42:57 AM PDT by patton (Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
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To: Meadow Muffin
Great, that means more of them will be going to New York.....

Nah, they will become our 51st state then get federal bailout money.

I think this has been in the works for quite a while.
ALL future Dems. They may become the BIGGEST welfare state in the union. Hawaii has that "honor" now. How do you say "Aloha" in español?

15 posted on 04/30/2006 10:43:50 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
"Democracy will only succeed until the population realizes it can vote itself largess from the treasury."

Probably one of the most insightful proclamations ever penned.

Here in Massachusetts, citizens voted to cut state income taxes in a binding referendum vote. The one party state legislature ignored the voters. Here in Massachusetts, the State Supreme Court decided on its own that homosexual marriage is legal. The elected representatives in the legislature in a majority vote accepted this. The elected and appointed officials in the perverted Democrat Party are fighting tooth and nail to prevent homosexual marriage from coming up as a binding referendum vote.

I would not be to quick to lambaste democracy seen how our representatives do what special interests want which is quite often against the sensible will of the people.

16 posted on 04/30/2006 10:46:17 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Illegal Aliens will take down the Democrats and Republicans and give rise to a new American party)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Being from Massachusetts myself, your preaching to the choir.


17 posted on 04/30/2006 10:48:12 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Graybeard58
Up to 50,000 Puerto Ricans facing massive layoffs because of a $1 billion government budget deficit marched to the capitol building in San Juan Friday to demand a solution to the fiscal crisis.

It worked in France.

18 posted on 04/30/2006 10:50:32 AM PDT by randita
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To: jk4hc4

Tell me about it. I live there.


20 posted on 04/30/2006 11:04:32 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Graybeard58
Puerto Rico has about 4 million people.

It has almost 100,000 public employees and is one billion in debt?

Clean up your socialist mess before you even begin to ask for statehood.

CIA factbook

21 posted on 04/30/2006 11:22:19 AM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: vetvetdoug

here are a few facts about puerto rico

white (mostly Spanish origin) 80.5%, black 8%, Amerindian 0.4%, Asian 0.2%, mixed and other 10.9%

plus, 500 million in deficit spending is probably less than the US govt. by whatever percentage or per capita measure you want to use.


22 posted on 04/30/2006 11:25:48 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: patton

There are so many reasons. Chief among them is continued fiscal mismanagement. The "leadership" of Shelby County has gotten us in this condition through years of bad decisions. There are two gonerning bodies in Shelby County, the City mayor and city council and the County mayor and county commission. Duplication of services means money spent on dual saleries means less money for needed projects. As a result, taxes are raised to pay for those projects. What can't be paid for by taxes is borrowed form different sources. That has occurred for so many years, the interest on the initial debt has mushroomed to where the county's debt has risen to a illion with a B! Couple all that with the increasing exodus from Memphis and Shelby County due to Mayor "King" Willie Herrenton's mismanagement of city funds and other bs and the stage has been set for our current financial situation. The eternal borrowing of money to pay of mismanaged projects leads to more intrest on the debt and that adds up. That in a very small nutshell is the reason.


23 posted on 04/30/2006 11:26:59 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: starfish923
"Aloha" in español?

Hola.

24 posted on 04/30/2006 11:31:04 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Graybeard58

Aw, do not worry we are pumping food stamps and social security into that garden of eden like money grew on trees. They do not want to be a free country because the teet would go dry and they would have to get along on their own. Sad situation.


25 posted on 04/30/2006 11:31:13 AM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: expatpat
"Aloha" in español?
Hola.

Wrong. Hola simply means hello.
"Aloha" is used for "hello" AND "goodbye."

Ummm, that was rhetoric, since there IS NO translation for "aloha." It's like "Namaste" in India, used for both "hello" and "goodbye."

I didn't think I needed to put < sarcasm >.

26 posted on 04/30/2006 11:43:07 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Graybeard58

Puerto Rican government, $1 billion in red, may shut down



Would anybody notice?


27 posted on 04/30/2006 11:46:14 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: NCC-1701

Can you say, "Balanced Budget Ammendment?"


28 posted on 04/30/2006 11:46:58 AM PDT by patton (Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
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To: NCC-1701
All cultures are equal...
Diversity is our strength...
Multiculturalism is good for the nation.....
Felons should vote...
Welfare dependent leaches should vote to determine your future..in spite of being incapable of running their own life.
There should be no verification of citizenship to vote...
Affirmative action "levels the playing field"..
Blacks can not be guilty of racism....

Bullsquat....
America had decided to foster and accommodate the Balkanization of America -- rather that INSIST on assimilation...

Following the "Leftist Liberal Progressive" path...has in fact led America to the brink of self destruction....

I hope the bastards have planned a PC funeral..

Semper Fi

29 posted on 04/30/2006 11:58:07 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Graybeard58; All

I am born and raised in Puerto Rico. I left as soon as I could, after college, and joined the US Air Force in 1993. I have been back home exactly 4 times since then, an average of 5 days at a time...that's all I can stand.

I have repeatedly asked my sisters to leave, and come to the mainland. One of them did, the others are still there, and 2 of the 3 still there are government employees. It still baffles me that they have chosen to stay.

Having said all that, the current situation is due to massive state government spending, buoyed by massive and oppressive taxation and an ever-growing bureaucracy. The largest employer in PR IS the government, by far. They have gotten themselves into this hole, and now the government employees are demanding a continuation of the policies that have gotten PR into this mess in the first place.

It is sad...one more reason I refuse to ever move back to PR.


30 posted on 04/30/2006 12:06:27 PM PDT by JRios1968 (In memoriam...)
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To: vetvetdoug
Why is it that African and Hispanic majority ruled areas are the first to go bankrupt?

Like Orange County, California, which actually declared bankruptcy? Or San Diego?

Government mismanagement isn't exactly a surprise, wherever it occurs. It's more likely to occur in areas where the same party governs for years uninterrupted. Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
31 posted on 04/30/2006 12:07:20 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: BIGZ
Puerto Rico, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Washington DC, Detroit, whats the difference.

I have been to each of the places you have mentioned and can think of very few similarities and great differences.

Perhaps, you could fill me on you opinion.

32 posted on 04/30/2006 12:07:43 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: vetvetdoug
Why is it that African and Hispanic majority ruled areas are the first to go bankrupt?

Puerto is One Billion in Debt while the United States that is largely ruled by white people is Five Trillion in debt?

Do you realize the difference between One Billion and Five Trillion?

33 posted on 04/30/2006 12:12:34 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Graybeard58
Gee, most us pay our taxes, worldwide, yet it seems every nation runs on deficits and needs more taxes collected 'cause they're going broke. Where is all the money?....oh yeah, Bill Gates and the big oil companies have it all. I forgot.

Hope y'all paid your taxes, 'cause if you didn't, we'd be....uhmm....is "broker" a word?

FMCDH(BITS)

34 posted on 04/30/2006 12:19:08 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Graybeard58

Puerto Rico going to way of General Motors...interesting.


35 posted on 04/30/2006 12:21:05 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: starfish923
How do you say "Aloha" in español?

"A-hola"?

FMCDH(BITS)

36 posted on 04/30/2006 12:21:29 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
All going in the same direction, (some have arrived) run by people of similar persuasion.
37 posted on 04/30/2006 12:22:42 PM PDT by BIGZ
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To: BIGZ

What do you mean by "similar persuasion?"


38 posted on 04/30/2006 12:24:43 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Graybeard58

California and NY next. Then Washington.


39 posted on 04/30/2006 12:24:56 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

Debt can be measured (good vs bad debt) by the ability for one to pay it off. Can Puerto Rico pay off anything?


40 posted on 04/30/2006 1:47:51 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: BIGZ
DC's not in that category anymore. They have a very sound financial management system, though they're still handicapped by being run by Dems. It's not Barry's DC anymore.
41 posted on 04/30/2006 2:28:28 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
If you want to rob Peter to pay Paul then you can always count on the vote of Paul

42 posted on 04/30/2006 2:39:42 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

It was exactly the same in 1973. - and I felt the exact same way.


43 posted on 04/30/2006 2:40:43 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: staytrue

Yes, they, like Jlo may call themselves white. - So do hispanics.


44 posted on 04/30/2006 2:44:10 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: river rat
I hope the bastards have planned a PC funeral..

They had best because the immigrants will dig the graves, since they only do the work that we won't.
45 posted on 04/30/2006 2:46:38 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Graybeard58

Can't the just raise the debt ceiling?


46 posted on 04/30/2006 3:29:52 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Bob Taft for Impeachment)
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To: patton

"...Can you say, "Balanced Budget Ammendment?"..."

Yea, I can. However, the a@%wipes in Shelby County/City of Memphis governments refuse to. That being the case, my wife and I can't wait to join the exodus from this fair and debt-ridden county. We are sick of the political incest that goes on here.


47 posted on 04/30/2006 5:25:38 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: NCC-1701

well, you may be better off than I. This burg does have a balanced budget - and the highest tax rate in VA.


48 posted on 04/30/2006 6:00:32 PM PDT by patton (Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
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To: NCC-1701

Yep as a fellow Shelby Country resident (I live in Memphis), I have seen my property taxes more than double in the last 15 years, with less and less to show for it.


49 posted on 04/30/2006 7:30:01 PM PDT by packrat35 (The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toilet)
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To: nothingnew
"A-hola"?
FMCDH(BITS)


50 posted on 05/01/2006 5:53:41 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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