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To: ansel12

they are a negative influence????

Are you aware of what we've done to this land in the last 200 hundred years? That 1/4 of this country is actually part of Mexico and was taken illegally during the Mexican American war and then ethnically cleansed systematically of its original inhabitants? And now that we want cheap labor we're letting people back in to their OWN country.

If you feel invaded, imagine how the native americans feel! If you honestly want to cut back on illegal immigration I suggest that you go back across the Atlantic to your homeland!

You people are so pathetically lacking in your commitment that the most you can "sacrifice" to your "cause" is to engage in yet another shopping spree. Why don't you be true to the racist undertones in all of the comments about "illegal" immigration and realize what you truly are.

While I'm sure that you all won't find this comment all that favorable, it's sort of a shame that you're so lacking in self assurance and burdened by unacknowledged guilt that you don't even have the courage to read statements that reveal how vacuous your ideas truly are. If this is the last post I make you can count on it being a result of your moderators shielding you from things that might otherwise contaminate your fragile minds.

17 posted on 04/30/2006 2:42:13 PM PDT by firetongs
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To: firetongs
If this is the last post I make you can count on it being a result of your moderators shielding you from things that might otherwise contaminate your fragile minds.

Don't flatter yourself.

It stays, you go.

18 posted on 04/30/2006 2:48:11 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: firetongs

I have held off commenting on the immigration crisis hoping the government in Washington would finally take steps to protect America. It now seems that we can expect little from a Congress apparently too polarized to act in the best interest of America.
A limited number of immigrants can be beneficial to a nation. Provided that those who apply for citizenship obey our laws and meet certain qualifications, they are welcome.
Those qualifications should include: sound health; educated to a certain level; be self-sufficient; speak, read and write English, possess marketable skills; swear an oath of loyalty to America; be willing to assimilate into our culture, have a working knowledge of how our economic system works, and meet any other INS requirements to become a citizen.
Lady Liberty’s bad poetry aside (“Send us your poor, blah, blah”), I do not recall that America has ever advertised for immigrants. People who come here do so uninvited and of their own accord. America owes them nothing.
I don’t know about you but I am sick and tired of the expression, “America is a land of immigrants,” as if every country from Auckland to Zanzibar had a representative aboard the Mayflower.
It is a myth that we are a nation of immigrants. We are not. We are a nation that, thanks to the sacrifice and hard work of others, became a country attractive to immigrants.
The people who first came to America were explorers and settlers, not immigrants. It’s not just a matter of semantics. Settlers do not find a plug-it-in-and-turn-it-on land all prepared for them as immigrants do. Settlers must face extreme danger, suffer hardships, even death, and without help, build shelter and grow food just to survive. They must then laboriously build a nation from scratch.
Furthermore, all of the original settlers came from a relatively small area of Western Europe. Later people from Central and Eastern Europe arrived to help build the nation.
The original settlers had many things in common including a Judeo-Christian tradition, basic Indo-European Romance languages, a work ethic, an acceptance of authority and an understanding of common law and democratic institutions.
There were no Asians, Patagonians, Hindus, Muslims, Moroccans, Eskimos, Polynesians Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, Koreans, South Americans, Haitians, or Sri Lankiness.

Slaves forcibly brought to North America were eventually freed and took part in the subsequent further building and developing of the nation and its traditions and culture.
Why is mass immigration so dangerous? Because it is the direct cause of the fall of so many advanced civilizations in the past. Unless it was conquered and destroyed, every great civilization that failed did so because it was overwhelmed by an enormous population invasion of barbarians or other less-civilized people.
Unable to assimilate or function in a higher more sophisticated civilized environment, the newcomers quickly pulled down to ruin the civilizations they inundated.
Nowhere in the history of mankind can multiculturalism be shown to have been a benefit. One or two cultures can sometimes live together in reasonable harmony, but mixing many cultures together is a recipe for disaster, as history clearly shows.
Another myth is that illegal aliens take jobs Americans won’t take. That factoid should be put to bed.
The law of supply and demand is alive and well. If illegal aliens were not around to take the low wages offered, employers would be forced to raise the rate to a level that would attract workers.
There are other ominous signs that the immigration crisis is coming to an ugly head.
A small but vocal group is demanding the return of Arizona, California and New Mexico to Mexico. (I might go along with that demand if they were willing to also accept Massachusetts.)
The spectacle of illegal aliens stampeding in America’s cities, demanding rights, blocking business and the free movement of U.S. citizens, to protest enforcement of the laws they have broken, is, as they say, unacceptable.
The present unarmed invasion we are going through is no different than an armed invasion. Armies made up of waves of illegal aliens have the same objectives: to take and occupy territory, seize resources, and establish its own laws, language and culture.
I believe there are three first steps that must be taken to defeat the invasion from Mexico:
(1) Immediately build barriers or walls at strategic points along the borders and patrol the spaces in between with our military. (2) Deport all illegal aliens now in the U.S. And (3) declare a moratorium of 50 to 75 years on all immigration except for cases of political asylum.
The reason for the wall (1) is obvious. A nation that cannot preserve and protect its borders is no longer a nation. It loses its sovereignty and anarchy follows.
Deportation (2) is vital. It would take years to find and deport all of the illegal aliens now hiding in America. Nevertheless, the process must start now no matter how difficult.
An immigration moratorium (3) is needed to allow time to get control of the borders, reform immigration laws, deport illegal aliens, and give resident aliens time to become citizens and to assimilate.
It’s almost too late. We must begin to defend ourselves now, or take the French option: surrender.


21 posted on 04/30/2006 2:53:11 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: firetongs

Am I IBTZ???


22 posted on 04/30/2006 2:53:26 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: firetongs
In case you are lurking, waterfork:

Are you aware of what we've done to this land in the last 200 hundred years?

Made it the greatestforce for good in the history of the World. Ended Naziism, Fascism and Communism (and hipefully soon, Islam).

That 1/4 of this country is actually part of Mexico and was taken illegally during the Mexican American war and then ethnically cleansed systematically of its original inhabitants?

We won, they lost. And it was sold to us. That is the way of the world and wars. The winner gets the spoils. Point to any point on the map and I can show you how current occupants "illegally" kicked out the previous occupants.

If you feel invaded, imagine how the native americans feel! If you honestly want to cut back on illegal immigration I suggest that you go back across the Atlantic to your homeland!

There is so much silliness in this part it is hard to getr it all. The Native Americans have nothing to do with this. But if you want to personally pay for all the social services by the illegal hoardes coming over our border, then pull out your checkbook. Don't try to make ME pay for YOUR guilt. And I was born here. This is my homeland.

You people are so pathetically lacking in your commitment that the most you can "sacrifice" to your "cause" is to engage in yet another shopping spree.

We are using economic force from legal people to offset attempted economic warfare (which will fail BTW). Sounds like a great sacrifice to me.

Why don't you be true to the racist undertones in all of the comments about "illegal" immigration and realize what you truly are.

How silly and pathetic to play the race card. This is all about criminal invaders, not race. We "truly are" Americans defending our soil.

25 posted on 04/30/2006 3:00:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1623690/posts?page=228#228 clawrence3:"law abiding illegals")
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To: firetongs
"You people are so pathetically lacking in your commitment that the most you can "sacrifice" to your "cause" is to engage in yet another shopping spree".

Just wait till Tuesday, and we boycott the places that shut down Monday. It isn't going to be for just a day either. They might even have to lay off or fire some Illegals...tsk, tsk.

"Money talks. Losers walk"...

sw

28 posted on 04/30/2006 3:13:49 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife ($hop till you drop..May 1st)
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To: firetongs

Adios amigo! Hope the door didn't hit you in the as . .

for me, I miss him already. Pobrecito . . . . . . . ;0)


33 posted on 04/30/2006 3:34:30 PM PDT by OkieDoke
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To: firetongs
Why don't you be true to the racist undertones in all of the comments about "illegal" immigration and realize what you truly are.

Wow! What a tissy fit!! So we took some Mexican land?! We won it fair and square. They signed the deal, and a deal's a deal! Besides, I support Mexicans. My landscapers are Mexican, my housekeepers are Mexican, and my cook is a Mexican. And I pay them fair and square. Plus, they get every other Sunday afternoon off, for Church, or shopping, or whatever.

38 posted on 04/30/2006 3:41:55 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: firetongs
I honestly wish to thank you for this evenings entertainment.
41 posted on 04/30/2006 4:01:08 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: firetongs
Are you aware of what we've done to this land in the last 200 hundred years?

No. But I am aware of what you've done to California in the last several years---and it's not good.

42 posted on 04/30/2006 4:08:53 PM PDT by RichRepublican (Some days you're the windshield--some days you're the bug.)
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To: firetongs

Firethongs sounds a bit like an old philosophy professor I once endured. Heavy on sentence structure and colorful adjective, but very short on fact.


43 posted on 04/30/2006 4:11:59 PM PDT by meyer (Permanently boycott all business that close for the May 1st illegal march!)
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