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2001 Top Secret Document: Production of Prohibited Nerve Gas Detectors (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO website for Iraq Pre-war documents ^ | May 1 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 05/01/2006 1:05:30 PM PDT by jveritas

Saddam Regime Document CMPC-2003-016083 dated in 2001 contains a series of Top Secret memos that address the production of Nerve Gas Detectors which was prohibited by the United Nations resolutions concerning Iraq according to the document itself. The importance of the production of the Nerve Gas Detector is shown by the top secret letters exchange between the Presidential Office and the head of the Iraqi Military Industrialization Commission (M.I.C). This documents is yet another indication that Saddam Regime never stopped his WMD programs, and the nerve Gas Detector which some can see it a “defensive in nature” is not to be considered so when it comes to Saddam Regime, everything has an offensive and aggressive use.

Beginning of Translation of page 5 of document CMPC-2003-016083

In the Name of God the Most Merciful The Most Compassionate

TOP SECRET

The Republic of Iraq

The Presidency of the Republic

The Military Industrialization Commission

Number 2/4/44

Date 13/1/2001

To: THE PRESIDENTIAL SECRETARIAT

Subject: Detection Equipment

Your top Secret letter number AA’/128 on 10/12/2000, we would like to show the following:

1. On 10/12/2000 a laboratory test was done on the new equipment and the results of the test was similar to the required quality compared with the Russian equipments

2. On the light of the above (1) a second equipment was received from the Ministry of Industry and Minerals and the total tests were done on it on 24/12/2000 using laboratory equipment to Chemical Detection Device (GSU-12) and with the presence of the Chemical Class representatives and the manufacturing party and its success was proven from the perspective of detection and reaction to NERVE AGENTS.

Please review… with regards

Signature

Abd AlTwab Abdallah AL Mulah Huwaish

The Minister of Military Industrialization

13/1/2001

End of translation of page 5.

Now on page 71 of the document there is a section that mentions that the production of “Nerve Gas Detectors” is PROHIBITED

Beginning of Partial Translation of page 71

Based on what is in the letter of the respected Presidential Secretariat (Top Secret) aa’/4 on 22/1/2001 followed by the Top Secret letter of (M.I.C) 2/4/44 on 13/1/2001 and after review of the technical report the commission recommend the following:

1. Consider it a work that reach level of Invention Works because it replace the need that occur to the Russian equipment that has an expired efficiency and that exist in the storages of the Chemical Class, and it is a PROHIBITED EQUIPMENT where the price of the effective material in it can reach 51,000 Dollars

End of partial translation of page 71.


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1 posted on 05/01/2006 1:05:33 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: jveritas

Another good catch.

Thanks for you hard work.

(I heard you live on the radio.)


2 posted on 05/01/2006 1:06:30 PM PDT by Sundog (Cheers.)
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To: eyespysomething

Production of Prohibited Equipments related to WMD.


3 posted on 05/01/2006 1:07:14 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jimrob; holdonnow; radioproducer; dinasour; Tony Snow

ping


4 posted on 05/01/2006 1:07:51 PM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com)
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To: jveritas

Bump.


5 posted on 05/01/2006 1:09:56 PM PDT by Rocko (Post No Bills)
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To: jveritas

Thanks yet again. Your efforts, continue to build up the growing case against Saddam. They day will come when many understand he never stopped pursuing wmd programs.


6 posted on 05/01/2006 1:10:51 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle

And that we had all the right to remove his terrorist regime after 9/11.


7 posted on 05/01/2006 1:12:24 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
"And that we had all the right to remove his terrorist regime after 9/11."
Whoops. heheh. My negligence.
8 posted on 05/01/2006 1:15:39 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; bannedfromdu; Beckwith; ...
MI Ping

A Jveritas translation related to Nerve agent detectors.

9 posted on 05/01/2006 1:16:05 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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To: jveritas
A couple of comments:

"it is a PROHIBITED EQUIPMENT where the price of the effective material in it can reach 51,000 Dollars

1) Are they suggesting that it is PROHIBITED EQUIPMENT because the cost is prohibited?

2) It appears that to test the detectors they have to actually HAVE nerve agents.

10 posted on 05/01/2006 1:16:43 PM PDT by avacado
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To: jveritas
Dear Tony Snow:

Please get jveritas in front of the Cameras daily seeing he is doing what the US government should be spending its money and time on rather than some other useless project!

Thank you in advance.

11 posted on 05/01/2006 1:17:08 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: jveritas

bttt


12 posted on 05/01/2006 1:20:22 PM PDT by Chuck54
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To: ASA Vet; jveritas

ASA Vet thanks for the ping, and jveritus, thanks for more outstanding translation.


13 posted on 05/01/2006 1:22:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: hawkaw

LOL :)...


15 posted on 05/01/2006 1:23:45 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: avacado
it is Prohibited as "Not Allowed to Be Manufactured" because it is a WMD equipment. The document use the word Arabic word "MAHZOURA" regarding these equipments i.e. "Prohibited And Not Allowed".
16 posted on 05/01/2006 1:26:05 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Grampa Dave; Baynative

Thank you very much, just doing my little duty here.


17 posted on 05/01/2006 1:27:11 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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Thanks jveritas! Good work as usual!

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18 posted on 05/01/2006 1:30:02 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: avacado; eyespysomething
2) It appears that to test the detectors they have to actually HAVE nerve agents.

That was my immediate thought, too. How can you test your Nerve Agent detectors if you don't have Nerve Agents to test them with?

19 posted on 05/01/2006 1:37:13 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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bump


20 posted on 05/01/2006 1:37:20 PM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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To: jveritas
--- The document use the word Arabic word "MAHZOURA" regarding these equipments i.e. "Prohibited And Not Allowed". ---

Thanks for the clarification jveritas. I just wanted to make sure and to explore all possibilities for the usage of the word.

Am I correct in understanding that they had to have banned nerve agents to test the equipment?

21 posted on 05/01/2006 1:37:29 PM PDT by avacado
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To: jveritas

More good work jveritas, you've been doing great on the radio programs too.

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22 posted on 05/01/2006 1:41:56 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: eyespysomething

Thanks for the ping.

Jveritas keeps weaving the trap bigger and bigger for Saddam and his liberal friends in America.


23 posted on 05/01/2006 1:46:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: jazusamo

Thank you jazusamo.


24 posted on 05/01/2006 1:48:53 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: SittinYonder; avacado

Exactly true.


25 posted on 05/01/2006 1:49:54 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: avacado

I think you are 100% correct.


26 posted on 05/01/2006 1:51:32 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
--- it replace the need that occur to the Russian equipment that has an expired efficiency ---

A little digging around on the net to see exactly what "expired efficiency" had to do with a Russian nerve agent detector.

"the Czechs indicated that they had to bury about 260 expired GSP-11 indicator charges out of the 350 sent to the Gulf. Other veterans indicated they did not trust the indicator charges because they had been stored in the heat and there was no way to check their condition."
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/gulfwar/cwagents/cwpaper1.htm

So it looks like the Iraqis were replacing the Russian made GSP-11 chemical detector.

27 posted on 05/01/2006 2:16:36 PM PDT by avacado
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To: jveritas

I wish we could have an annual freeper award; you would surely win. Hands down. Thanks again so much, jveritas, for all your hard work.

I've sent this to my e-mail and will send to my Senators with a little note.


28 posted on 05/01/2006 3:28:01 PM PDT by Peach
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To: avacado
Am I correct in understanding that they had to have banned nerve agents to test the equipment?

Probably, but most nerve agents are not that difficult to make in small amounts.

I also don't understand why the detectors would be banned. Many nations, particular the Germans and Poles, have CBW detection gear, but do not have any CBW weapons of their own.

We have them as well, and no longer have the weapons themselves.

Unless these aren't detectors in the sense that I'm thinking of, as much as sensors required to monitor and control the production of nerve gas and/or other CBW agents.

29 posted on 05/01/2006 3:39:38 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: jveritas

thanks ping


30 posted on 05/01/2006 3:40:37 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: jveritas
Image hosted by Photobucket.comanother outstanding job.

look for anything about filters in their armored vehicles... the proof that the soviets planned to use Bio/Chem weapons was that all their tracks had filters designed to filter out THEIR OWN STUFF more than anything else.

31 posted on 05/01/2006 3:50:45 PM PDT by Chode (1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT. American Hedonist ©®)
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To: jveritas

Make sure you let us know when you are going to be on a talk show.


32 posted on 05/01/2006 3:52:23 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: jveritas

Is it possible that these detectors were aimed at being ready should Iran develop and use nerve gas against Saddam's regime? Yes ...


33 posted on 05/01/2006 4:10:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

Anything is possible. Is it probable? No.


34 posted on 05/01/2006 4:16:45 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: jveritas

JV! Once again I bow before you in Gratitude! Thank you for what you are doing!


35 posted on 05/01/2006 6:24:07 PM PDT by Danae (God bless ya Tony! Thank you!)
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To: popdonnelly
--- Anything is possible. Is it probable? No. ---

Could you explain why it is not probable? Every possibility must be explored. Is there a reason that you gave a firm NO?

36 posted on 05/01/2006 6:25:01 PM PDT by avacado
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To: jveritas

Thank you for all your hard work in sifting through and translating Saddam regime documents and then posting those translations here on FR for all to read. God Bless you.


37 posted on 05/01/2006 7:13:00 PM PDT by tgslTakoma (I nominate Freeper "jveritas" for Freeper of the year!)
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To: tgslTakoma; Danae

Thank you very much for all your support. The important thing is to have the truth out about these documents.


38 posted on 05/01/2006 7:39:22 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Peach

Thank you Peach :)


39 posted on 05/01/2006 7:40:38 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: MHGinTN
Yes it is possible, however Saddam was the one who used Chemical weapons on the Iranians much more then they did on his troops.

In Saddam world, there is nothing for defensive purposes, it is only for aggression.

Do you believe that Saddam would have waited for the Iranians to ave Chemical Weapons and he does not? He understand very well that Chemical Weapons are what saved his regime in the Iraq-Iran war, and that is why he was always obsessed in having them.

40 posted on 05/01/2006 7:44:01 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Chode

I will be looking for that, thanks for the tip.


41 posted on 05/01/2006 7:45:50 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

I don't disagree that Saddam was always trying to build up his weaponry and capabilities. Would you concede that he might also be looking at how he would respond if Iram used nerve gas and how he might protect his forces in such a scenario?


42 posted on 05/01/2006 7:51:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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bump


43 posted on 05/01/2006 8:02:07 PM PDT by RaceBannon (ma(Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon; jveritas

Very Interesting!!!

So Why have nerve gas detectors?

Well almost immediately The best reason I can think of is to be able to check for leaks in your nerve gas supplies, you really don't want to go around checking for nerve gas leaks in ammo using the sniff test and ye olde Mark 1 nose.

Especially if these were purchased in volume.


44 posted on 05/01/2006 8:15:34 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: MHGinTN

Saddam would never put himself in a situation of defense only with Iran, no way. If he thinks the Iranians were working on Chemical Weapons then he is going to have his as well.


45 posted on 05/01/2006 8:55:47 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
I have no doubts that Saddam had chemical, biological weapons and was sporadically (even with the IAEA inspections which he was continually deceiving) pursuing nuclear weapons. What I am cautioning is a jump to a sole conclusion with the document.

BTW, please keep up the tremendous work,jveritas. America truly needs what you are doing.

46 posted on 05/01/2006 9:40:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: jveritas

Another great find! Thanks for your hard work!


47 posted on 05/01/2006 9:50:46 PM PDT by Shelayne (Antique Media--losing value everyday...)
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To: jveritas

That it is, what you are doing is absolutely priceless. Thank you!


48 posted on 05/01/2006 10:53:36 PM PDT by Danae (God bless ya Tony! Thank you!)
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To: jveritas

jveritas strikes again!


49 posted on 05/01/2006 10:58:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: jveritas
Reading your translation posts have become the highlight of FreeRepublic....

They should be required reading for every Presstitute in "Old Media" and every freaking liberal...

You are delivering some punishing blows to the bullshit scenario the antiwar surrender monkeys are pushing.

Semper Fi
50 posted on 05/02/2006 2:17:32 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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