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California gets taste of life without immigrant workers
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 5/1/06 | Lisa Leff - ap

Posted on 05/01/2006 4:17:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

"For some enterprises, that meant a boon in business. With so most other restaurants closed, Wan Kee, a Chinese restaurant in San Francisco's Mission District, did brisk lunchtime business."

From the grammar in the above sentence, I think old Wan himself must have written this part.


151 posted on 05/01/2006 6:32:07 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: feinswinesuksass

Thank you.

At least you are not a sanctimonious jerk like the one I am sparring with now.


152 posted on 05/01/2006 6:32:09 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (We want our day: A day without hearing SPANISH ...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"'Today, no - no working and no buying,' said Enrique Varguas, 28, who rescheduled a dozen or so landscaping appointments..."

My wife went to Walmart on Sunday. Normally it is almost deserted with all the local LDS population at church. It was wall to wall Mexicans stocking up so they could put on a show today.

153 posted on 05/01/2006 6:34:48 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Schatze
Unfortunately, in some towns, they go the opposite way. In the city we just moved from, the ordinance states that you can have 1 person for every 100 square feet, i.e., a 1600 sq.ft. house is OK for 16 people.

When the 2700 square foot house across the street from us sold, and turned into a rental, that was our cue to leave a neighborhood and a city that had been steadily deteriorating for the past ten years.

It broke our hearts, because it used to be a beautiful little city, but the crime, the congestion, the quality of life destroyed, left us with no other choice.

We're now in a tiny little town on the Oregon Coast. The weather this past winter was quite challenging, but it's quiet and peaceful here. We still get a lot more rain and a lot less warm sunshine than we did in California, but we're content. We were just getting too darned old to put up with all the craziness in California.

154 posted on 05/01/2006 6:36:04 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: BunnySlippers

Hey, we all make mistakes. I laughed my butt off at the guy who has been building all over our neighborhood....he has been the bain of my existence for over 5 years with continued construction all around us. He hired some illegals & a neighbor tipped off the unions. He was picketed & then had to hire the union to tear down the shoddy work & re-do it. Cost him 10 times more than it would have if he had hired the union guys to start with....couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. hahahaha


155 posted on 05/01/2006 6:37:17 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: BlessedByLiberty

I'm sure!

Thanks.


156 posted on 05/01/2006 6:41:29 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Myrddin

"It was wall to wall Mexicans stocking up so they could put on a show today."

Can't people who come here with nothing but the shirts on their backs learn to stockpile stuff like a True American? LOL! I could live comfortably without a trip to Wal-Mart for 30 days, easily. My Mom could hold out for 60-90 days based on her stash. ;)

More than enough proof to me that illegals don't want to "assimilate into our culture." And, yes, I'm being a smart @ss. :)


157 posted on 05/01/2006 6:41:53 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Kellis91789

Why can't people do their own landscaping instead of hiring illegals? I do all of mine and I live on over 3/4 of an acre. Maybe if Americans went back to doing their own work outside and inside instead of hiring all these illegals, this County would be a lot better off. No illegal would have ever come close to taking care of my kids -- I was a stay-at-home Mom. Our home may not have been picture perfect because I did the work inside and out but my kids were sure a lot happier that I was home and our house had that lived in look.

Gardners and housekeepers are a waste of money IMHO for healthy individuals who could use the exercise! Wonder how many illegals are hired to do those jobs?


158 posted on 05/01/2006 6:49:55 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Elect Bob Sullivan OK Governor -- Throw out Dem Gov DoLittle Henry in 2006!)
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To: BunnySlippers
You've posted to me numerous times...

What a boor you are.

Oh, let me retract that. You're a jerk!....

oh, ... you're from Michigan. You have no concept of market forces.

Furthernore, you are ignorant.

A boor DOES NOT mean you're boring. It means you're a boor:

1. A person with rude, clumsy manners and little refinement.
2. A peasant.

See 133. You're still uneducated.

Let us know what kind of shanty you live in? We already know you're a low life.

It's pretty clear you and I would be on opposite sides of the street during this protest...I'd be on the American side...

159 posted on 05/01/2006 6:51:39 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Iscool

You're still an ignorant bufoon!


160 posted on 05/01/2006 6:52:35 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (We want our day: A day without hearing SPANISH ...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Can't people who come here with nothing but the shirts on their backs learn to stockpile stuff like a True American? LOL! I could live comfortably without a trip to Wal-Mart for 30 days, easily

They haven't shook the habit of shopping every day. Refrigeration is still a novelty to some.

161 posted on 05/01/2006 6:54:27 PM PDT by tertiary01 (Those innocent farm workers by day turn into nasty gang bangers by night. Proof is in the jails.)
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To: Supernatural

Didn't notice anything in Virginia. I guess it's only the unemployed that went to the "Day without illegal" rallies.


162 posted on 05/01/2006 6:54:35 PM PDT by baltoga
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To: BunnySlippers
You're still an ignorant bufoon!

Ha...May seem like it to you but there are scores of millions of us who want to see employers of illegal aliens get what they got coming to 'em...Millions of us 'peasants' out here...

163 posted on 05/01/2006 6:57:15 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: PhiKapMom
I do all my own yard work. My residence is on 1/3 acre. It takes 2 1/2 hours to mow. My rental is on 1/4 acre. That takes another 1 1/2 hours including time to put the mower and tools in the pickup and make the 2.5 mile drive. It's my summer fitness program. I enjoy having a lawn that looks like a finely manicured putting green with flower beds full of current seasonal flowers. The money I save is mine to spend on guns, ammo and computer goodies.
164 posted on 05/01/2006 6:58:59 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Iscool

Don't worry, Doofus. I'm doing my part.
Hope you catch up.


165 posted on 05/01/2006 6:59:14 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (We want our day: A day without hearing SPANISH ...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Traffic was great, My commute was cut by 50%. I actually was able to break the posted speed law the entire way to work.

It looks like all we need to do to solve the traffic nightmare in Southern California is to enforce the immigration laws.

166 posted on 05/01/2006 6:59:41 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: baltoga

Most of the jobs in my area are already gone. Used to be steel mills here but they all moved overseas. Not a lot of jobs left to take here.

They move the factories overseas then they let the illegals come in and take the rest of the jobs.

Your government at work.


167 posted on 05/01/2006 7:02:47 PM PDT by Supernatural (I used to care but things have changed.)
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To: cmsgop

"I really bet Cinco De Mayo Festivities in the US will be down this year."

It's now called Sinko de Mayo!


168 posted on 05/01/2006 7:06:24 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (ˇNo más de mierda mexicana del toro!)
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To: Lexington Green
One of my favorite diners, Penninsula Creamery in Palo Alto, was closed today in solidarity with the "immigrants".

Its too bad - best tuna melt ever but I've eaten there for the last time. Its now on my personal zot list.

169 posted on 05/01/2006 7:09:13 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Law is not justice but process

Lol! Just how many FReepers shopped at a WalMart today? I didn't buy much, but I did make a point of stopping by : )

Interesting to see if their receipts were especially higher for today.


170 posted on 05/01/2006 7:14:13 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: Iscool; BunnySlippers
You're right...I'm a boring jerk...But just to people that are anti-American and anti America...

Well having said that, I'll 'fess up. 12 years ago our sewer pipe collapsed under the patio slab. Former husband picked up a couple of guys(presumably illegal-maybe not), rented a jackhammer and put them to work breaking concrete. I was ready to go to the hospital for labor induction, and there was sewage coming up into the bathtub, toilet, etc.

Keep in mind that I'm a life long CA resident, and until I was educated as to the true cost of hiring someone illegal, I really didn't have a problem. Now I do.

Go ahead and flame.

171 posted on 05/01/2006 7:19:44 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: VOATNOW1; rodeocowboy
Who, in there right mind, would trust their kids to a person who is illegal, and whose past could never be verified? The same kind of person who risk exposing their children to TB, mumps, etc.

One of those "forced" to hire a nanny was interviewed on TV this afternoon taking her OWN children to the park (Oh, the Horror) because of a nanny no-show. The woman worked as a "fund raiser," but they didn't report the beneficiary of the "fund". IMO, these folks feel oh so righteous helping out the "lowly, downtrodden" ... albeit under the table with social costs passed on to the average American.

172 posted on 05/01/2006 7:23:23 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: Iscool

At least you're an AMERICAN boor!! :)


173 posted on 05/01/2006 7:38:01 PM PDT by Politicalmom (If fences don't work, why is there a fence around the White House?)
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To: Politicalmom

Ha! That I am...


174 posted on 05/01/2006 8:20:08 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Lexington Green

Yo NO qiero Taco Bell.


175 posted on 05/01/2006 8:22:07 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NormsRevenge

This was a collossal flop.

HUGE flop.

It was a PR disaster because it DID make a backlash and showed how few supporters they have outside the illegal enabler circles.

If anything it showed the only supporters of illegal immigration were LITTERALLY communists left over from the cold war.


176 posted on 05/01/2006 8:23:22 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Don't have any day laborers in my neck of the woods...Local people would probably run them out...Lots of Americans here will work fairly reasonable, for cash...But they can be hard to locate when you need them in a hurry...

I wonder if the illegals were gone, would you still have legal day laborers in your area???


177 posted on 05/01/2006 8:30:57 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: ikka

Time to boycott everything Mexican, (since they make up most of the illegal aliens here.)


178 posted on 05/01/2006 8:35:06 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: SierraWasp

I went to taco bell, for some strange reason my steak clalupa(s) with nacho sauce, tasted just a little better!


179 posted on 05/01/2006 8:38:56 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (what he felt when he shot the insurgent with his sniper rifle he responded..."f**king recoil...what)
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To: Schatze

I think there are ordinances in the form of fire codes, just need to enforce them. All buildings should have occupancy limits (or at least should have) just for the safety everyone.


180 posted on 05/01/2006 8:39:00 PM PDT by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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To: Randy Larsen

clalupa(s)=chalupa(s)


181 posted on 05/01/2006 8:40:38 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (what he felt when he shot the insurgent with his sniper rifle he responded..."f**king recoil...what)
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To: NormsRevenge
those illegals are killing the "golden goose".

182 posted on 05/01/2006 8:55:09 PM PDT by timestax
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To: NormsRevenge
To use a turn of phraase made popular by noted Playboy bunny Gloria Steinem...

A day without an illegal... is like a fish without a bicycle!!!

183 posted on 05/01/2006 9:02:30 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (History is not written by those who win wars, but by those who win the war for the History Dept.)
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To: All

Quotes from California's immigration rallies
The Bakersfield Californian

http://www.bakersfield.com/119/story/49235.html

Quotes from California's immigration rallies:

"This country needs us. We are the strong arms doing all the tough jobs." Donna Maria Mostache, 43, an illegal immigrant from Mexico protesting in Los Angeles.

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"We're here. And all we're asking is fair treatment for everyone. We don't want immigrants to be criminalized." Catalina Hernandez, a protester who marched to Los Angeles City Hall with a niece and nephew.

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"We pay our taxes, we obey the law, we are learning English, our lives are here." Monica de la Torre, a 24-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico, at the Los Angeles demonstration.

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"If he's even five minutes late, I worry that he'll never come home. This is in our face every day. And it's not just about Mexicans. It's about people like me. It's about all of us. It's about what it means to be American." Linnea Pierrard, 37, a teacher who attended a San Francisco rally with her husband, an illegal immigrant.

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"What everyone here is doing is making themselves visible instead of being inside working in a kitchen or taking care of other people's kids - doing jobs that other people don't want to do." Daniel Gonzalez, a 25-year-old Los Angeles artist who is the son of Mexican immigrants.

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"We can't have any more people come here." Police Lt. Art DeClercq in Huntington Park, where some 25,000 people jammed a park.

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"I find this kind of occasion a civil exultation where people basically celebrate diversity and the multicultural essence of America." Steven Black, 44, a U.S. citizen originally from Canada, at a San Francisco rally.

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"I said they are going to be with me - protesting." Ruby Martinez, explaining that she refused to write a sick note to explain her children's absence from school to attend the Los Angeles protest.


184 posted on 05/01/2006 9:36:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge; doug from upland
Jack Kyser, chief economist of the Los Angeles Economic development Corp.,
said the economic fallout of the one-day boycott could be as high as
$200 million in Los Angeles County. The estimate, a fraction of
the $1.2 billion in economic activity the county generates daily,
consisted of business lost on Monday and took into consideration commerce
that would be made up later in the week.


Talk about an under-reported metric.
So the boycott ain't the big economic earthquake predicted by
the La Raza and MeChA activists.
When you look at the effect of a $200 million dollar loss on one
year's bidness.

And Kyser is often on Los Angeles-area TV giving economic forecasts
for the area.

Too bad the forecast couldn't include all the money saved on tranquilizers
and antidepressants a lot of folks could forego with the reductions
in traffic, noise and other urban aggravations caused by the illegals' overload
of the infrastructure.
185 posted on 05/01/2006 9:51:00 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Diver Dave

Good for you ! But asking for a little more sugar never hurt !


186 posted on 05/01/2006 10:37:06 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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To: RightWinger

If only they were that bright ...


187 posted on 05/01/2006 10:38:54 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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To: Lexington Green
Mexican restaurants can expect a dearth of ''gringo'' customers for a long time to come.

Well said. I'll eat at Taco Bell instead.

188 posted on 05/01/2006 10:40:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (FR's most controversial FReeper)
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To: NormsRevenge
Thank you for posting this. I was especially interested in this tidbit:

Sean McNally, a spokesman for Grimmway Farms in Bakersfield, said the company was down to less than 30 percent of its normal work force, but didn't have to close any of its vegetable-growing operations.

"We made it clear there would be no repercussions if they wanted to take that day off. We wanted them to feel free to express themselves," McNally said.

I have been taking notes on companies and businesses that I typically patronize. I used to buy Grimmway carrots, but now I know better. :-)

Today was a great service to those of us who want to make sure our hard-earned dollars support those who love the U.S. and respect our laws.

189 posted on 05/01/2006 10:48:53 PM PDT by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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To: WOSG
I think its great that Americans were there to do the jobs that illegal immigrants wouldnt do.

That one'd go down in the alltime FReeper Hall of Fame, if there was one! :-)

190 posted on 05/01/2006 10:52:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: skeeter

Be sure to drop them a note so they understand why they lost your business.


191 posted on 05/01/2006 11:08:24 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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Here in Las Vegas the only difference I saw was the home and garden store down the road from the house didn't have thirty immigrants standing around waiting for work. Today there were about six or seven. Traffic seemed the same to me on the way to work. One local news report claimed thousands marched on Fremont St. while a later report claimed hundreds of thousands marched on Fremont. Not sure which was correct but from the video I've seen the hundreds of thousands is slightly off. As if that many could fit on Fremont in the first place.

Have a friend that's high up in one of the casino hotels on the strip that was told to go to work today in blue jeans in case they needed more bodies to make beds and clean rooms. Apparently around six called in sick so he got to spend the day in comfortable clothes for a change.

I imagine around here the hispanic areas were the hardest hit which is stupid because that's the opposite of the supposed goal. The whole thing is just stupid.


192 posted on 05/01/2006 11:14:23 PM PDT by talmand
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To: Iscool
I wonder if the illegals were gone, would you still have legal day laborers in your area???

I suggested to my 18 yr old son that he should hang out in front of Home Depot. He can't find any work. He even applied at a restaurant where the owner is supposedly friends with his father. No dice.

Bartering and networking doesn't pay the bills. Maybe every unemployed American should show up at Home Depot the next time the illegals take the day off.

193 posted on 05/02/2006 2:53:10 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: NormsRevenge

I see a multitude of illegals at the mall, but they never seem to have a bag in their hands, indicating they have purchased anything. Walmart is a different story, they actually roll a cart around and buy stuff.


194 posted on 05/02/2006 6:06:48 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: BunnySlippers

So if your remodeling job done by illegals had gone well, you WOULD be willing to hire illegals again?


195 posted on 05/02/2006 7:44:30 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: detsaoT
Went to Walmart for the first time in 3 yrs,

Me as well. It was packed. I also did a bit of driving around on a long lunch. 100% open. All normal. I am in north Dallas.

196 posted on 05/02/2006 7:47:03 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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To: sheana
Well, the people who are staging these rallies are operating under the illusion that illegals are indispensable. I find the arrogance of that position to be astounding. You know the old saying, "The graveyards are full of indispensable men."
197 posted on 05/02/2006 8:00:19 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: Randy Larsen

Did you come down across the bridge to get that, or have they put one in up where you live?


198 posted on 05/02/2006 8:29:20 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Without consistent core conservatives in charge, the GOP is fast becoming the Gelded Old Party!!!)
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To: Explorer24
are you confessing to supporting illegals, or distinguishing between those here legally doing the right thing and those who aren't?

Huh??? I was simply reporting some good news about some dedicated employees who were rewarded. Illegals? Actually, no---American hispanic citizens.

199 posted on 05/02/2006 8:31:35 AM PDT by Watershed
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To: Inspectorette
The weather this past winter was quite challenging ...

If it makes you feel any better, the weather in California sucked this winter. We had seven weeks of nothing but rain in the Bay Area.

I understand why you felt the need to leave. Things are bad enough now, but if we get a demonrat governor, I may have to pack my bags, too.

200 posted on 05/02/2006 9:25:39 AM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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