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Giuliani Shows a Candidate's Mettle to Republicans in Iowa
NY Times ^ | 5/2/6 | Patrick Healy

Posted on 05/02/2006 9:42:32 AM PDT by Crackingham

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1 posted on 05/02/2006 9:42:34 AM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham
Former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said on Monday that he was seriously exploring whether he has "a chance" of winning the presidency in 2008

Not a chance....next!

2 posted on 05/02/2006 9:43:35 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

And exactly who IS next?


3 posted on 05/02/2006 9:44:52 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Crackingham

Same NY Times that bashed Rudy as Mayor is now kissing his behind.


4 posted on 05/02/2006 9:46:36 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (FR's most controversial FReeper)
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To: rhombus
Senator George Allen
5 posted on 05/02/2006 9:48:40 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: ElkGroveDan

Come on Rudy - this conservative is a big fan of yours.


6 posted on 05/02/2006 9:49:19 AM PDT by Jake The Goose (Come on Rudy)
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To: kingattax
You could be right. He might be the guy who can unite the "real" conservatives and the unreal conservatives. That is precisely what has to be done.
7 posted on 05/02/2006 9:50:14 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus

Sorry....... but I am ALL for Rudy! This would be excellent news to me.


8 posted on 05/02/2006 9:52:47 AM PDT by amutr22 (Remember....Friend's Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat!)
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To: amutr22

There are a number who will never support him because of his stance on abortion and gun control.


9 posted on 05/02/2006 9:54:37 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: kingattax

Serious question for Allen supporters: what is his appeal?

I've seen him speak a number of times recently. While he strikes me as a reasonably pleasant and articulate mainstream Republican, I don't find anything particularly compelling about him. I call him Generic Republican Man. So, for those who are excited about Allen, I'm genuinely curious to know just what it is that has you excited.


10 posted on 05/02/2006 9:55:31 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: rhombus

I know. But on the flip side, there are many moderates who will vote Republican if it's Rudy.


11 posted on 05/02/2006 9:57:45 AM PDT by amutr22 (Remember....Friend's Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat!)
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Sorry, Rudy, but any candidate who can't get the votes of the religious right, the NRA and 2nd Amendment voters, plus the rest of the voters who are at least conservative in regard to economic issues, is a LOSER unless running as a Democrat, which is truly where Guiliani belongs IMO. By rights, Guiliani should do as well as Arlen Specter did when he ran for President as both hold many of the same views with Arlen slightly to the right of Guiliani.


12 posted on 05/02/2006 9:59:46 AM PDT by penowa
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; Victoria Delsoul
I had the pleasure of seeing Allen appear befuddled and bewildered by the likes of Barbara Boxer a few months back on tv. Not again! No more slow witted, flat footed good old boys in the Dubya "What, me worry?" tradition.

One or two issue fetishists are willing to overlook a candidates communication liabilities and it got us a stillborn president who doesn't have the moral authority to do much of anything and he struggles with broad unpopularity.

Not again.
13 posted on 05/02/2006 10:01:46 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: amutr22

The 'sildent majority' that won the 1972 election was just traditional, decent americans, of which conservatives were a subset.

Same thing in 1984.

Same thing in 2004, except there were fewer of them.


14 posted on 05/02/2006 10:03:27 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: HitmanLV

George Allen would be viable if Bush's approval rating were decent. Since they are in the toliet, the GOP needs to look outside the beltway for a viable Presidential candidate.

Alos if the RATS do well in 2006, Hillary will be their nominee. If the GOP maintains Congress, then Hillary will have a tough time in the primaries.


15 posted on 05/02/2006 10:05:17 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: HitmanLV

Who do you like? Ironically, I had been favoring Jeb Bush, who I see as by far the most intelligent, articulate and principled conservative in the Bush family, but I've accepted the fact that he's not running this time around. McCain is not reliably conservative, Giuliani doesn't even pretend to be one. Frist - blah. Romney? Big flip-flop on abortion. So who is there?


16 posted on 05/02/2006 10:07:02 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Allen was a great governor.
17 posted on 05/02/2006 10:07:25 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well, first I’ll admit that I’m kind of biased because I am from Virginia and Allen is my senator.

The reason that I find Allen appealing is that he is a very strong and principled conservatives among many wavering politicians. Not that Allen hasn’t occasionally wavered on issues, but those are exceptions, not the rule. Allen makes no bones about his conservative values and usually fights exceptionally hard for them. Also, I like the fact that Allen takes seriously the power of ideas, which I think strengthens his commitment to conservatism.

Allen also served as governor of Virginia before he was elected Senator, so he possesses executive leadership experience that most senators lack. When he was governor, he fought hard for important initiatives like abolishing parole and tax cuts.

Finally, I like that Allen exudes positive energy and optimism, encouraging people to think positively about the future and meet challenges head-on. And he’s just an overall decent, likeable guy. Not everyone may share my impression of Allen, but that is my take on him.


18 posted on 05/02/2006 10:08:43 AM PDT by blitzgig
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To: Kuksool
I will never vote for Rudy!!!! Mrs. Clinton will not run. She lives by the polls and hates to lose.
19 posted on 05/02/2006 10:10:27 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: blitzgig

Thanks very much for your reasonsed, informative response. It actually makes me see Allen in a more positive light and keep an open mind.


20 posted on 05/02/2006 10:12:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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