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United 93: No Flight of Fancy
The National Ledger ^ | 05-02-06 | Debra Saunders

Posted on 05/02/2006 12:15:38 PM PDT by Coastal

The movie "United 93" depicts what David Beamer, father of United Flight 93 passenger Todd Beamer, calls the first "counterattack" in the war on terror after Sept. 11, 2001. Beamer rejects the notion that the movie is coming out "too soon" after Sept. 11. He wrote in The Wall Street Journal last week that if anything is "too soon," it is "too soon for us to become complacent."

You won't hear family members of the 33 passengers and seven crewmembers complain that writer-director Paul Greengrass exploited their loved ones. The film depicts the victims from a respectful distance, with no designated star passenger.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; terrorism; united93; wot

1 posted on 05/02/2006 12:15:41 PM PDT by Coastal
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To: Coastal

Any first hand reviews?


2 posted on 05/02/2006 12:16:53 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Coastal

Todd Beamer wasn't wearing a baseball cap.


3 posted on 05/02/2006 12:17:28 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: cdga5for4

I think that was Mark Bingham....the last to board the plane.


4 posted on 05/02/2006 12:18:39 PM PDT by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: Coastal

I saw this movie, and...

It made me very very angry. As we should all be, but too many are not.

I went to see Ann Coulter at Wellesley College last night, and she said "We can't retaliate against these people reponsible for 9/11 who hate us, despise us and want to see us annihilated and dead, because it might make them hate us, despise us, and want us annihilated and dead."


5 posted on 05/02/2006 12:19:10 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: coconutt2000

I went by myself late yesterday afternoon. All I can say is if you have any inclination to go, do it. It's one of the more unique films I've ever seen.


6 posted on 05/02/2006 12:19:20 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: cdga5for4

Huh. I thought he WAS wearing a baseball cap.


7 posted on 05/02/2006 12:20:12 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: RasterMaster

Yes, correct. I think Mark played rugby at Cal, thus the Cal-Berkeley hat.


8 posted on 05/02/2006 12:20:17 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: coconutt2000

Very intense movie...saw it on opening day.


9 posted on 05/02/2006 12:21:07 PM PDT by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: rlmorel

No, that was Bingham.


10 posted on 05/02/2006 12:21:09 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: coconutt2000

>>Any first hand reviews?<<

I'm going tonight. I have heard nothing but good reviews, except for the libs who think it was not fair to the terrorists (NY Times OP ED).


11 posted on 05/02/2006 12:21:35 PM PDT by SerpentDove (We will not stand by and allow politicians to destroy our country through open borders.)
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To: cdga5for4

I saw it Friday. It should be required viewing.

The reviews were stunningly accurate - it's well done and almost in real time.

It will take you back to 9/11 - which in this short attention span society is a good thing.


12 posted on 05/02/2006 12:22:49 PM PDT by Coastal
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To: Coastal
Here are links to trailers for the movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475276/trailers

http://www.united93movie.com/index.php

13 posted on 05/02/2006 12:22:58 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: coconutt2000

My wife and I saw it Sunday. By the end we were both physically shaking. It is that moving and dramatic! We left angry. not only at those responsible, but at those who would have us "negotiate" and "appease" terrorists! One of the best movies I have seen EVER. Along with the first 15 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan", it should be required viewing for all Americans! This movie will put life in perspective....


14 posted on 05/02/2006 12:24:13 PM PDT by colt1911
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To: coconutt2000; Coastal
Any first hand reviews?

I'm waiting to see it till I've had my appointment with my opthamologist. My current prescriptions are so bad I don't think my right eye by itself would be legal to drive.

15 posted on 05/02/2006 12:28:22 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: cdga5for4
All I can say is that I avoided my liberal neighbors after seeing the movie. It does make you angry. If you saw a one of the Clinton gang crossing the road after leaving the multiplex, it would be best to pull over until they're out of sight lest you end up in prison. It's the kind of movie you hope for the terrorists to get caught but know things like the the Gorelick Wall help them along.

One of the few movies that I saw in a theater and intend buy on DVD when it comes out.

A must see.
16 posted on 05/02/2006 12:30:15 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: coconutt2000
My parents, my wife and I, and a friend and his wife all went on Sunday. The lady's wept, and my jaw is still so sore I can barely chew from clenching my teeth in anger during the last 20 minutes.

Hands down, this is the most powerful movie I have seen. The only thing that comes close was the opening of Saving Private Ryan.

I'm thinking of buying a bunch of tickets and handing them out to my co-workers.

17 posted on 05/02/2006 12:30:37 PM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: cdga5for4

Well, I guess.


18 posted on 05/02/2006 12:31:37 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rlmorel

I made the same misidentification until close to the end of the movie. Bingham was a lot bigger than Todd and the Cal hat was the clincher. Also, Todd prayed part of the Lord's Prayer very briefly during the movie, that's when I figured out that was Todd and the guy in the hat was Mark.


19 posted on 05/02/2006 12:33:36 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: lovecraft
"...The only thing that comes close was the opening of Saving Private Ryan..."

That was what I posted the other day. The movie was nearly as intense as the Normandy invasion scene, and the scene at the end where they fought the hijackers was equally as intense as the hand to hand combat knife fighting scene in Saving Private Ryan.

20 posted on 05/02/2006 12:34:07 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: coconutt2000
I saw it. I cried when one of the women handed her cell phone to a younger woman and told her to call her people.

The movie is totally neutral about good or bad. It lets the actions of the participants speak for themselves.

The audience is smart enough to figure out the good and bad all by themselves.

21 posted on 05/02/2006 12:35:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: Coastal
The film is very well done. Several people who left it said they were moved by it, that the only film more powerful than this one was "The Passion of Christ."

And yet, a few years later, we have illegal aliens demonstrating in our streets, opposing secure borders, and McCain and Kennedy wanting to give these criminals citizenship.

22 posted on 05/02/2006 12:39:18 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Coastal

Haven't seen the movie yet, but I plan to. This was a good article, and there is another excellent one by Mona Charen. Sorry, don't have the link, but all should read it.


23 posted on 05/02/2006 12:41:53 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I stuck around...)
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To: rlmorel
The movie was nearly as intense as the Normandy invasion scene.

Well it's true, very few movies affect me emotionally - but this one - boy, I just don't have the words. I literally felt the urge to do harm. Lots of it.

24 posted on 05/02/2006 12:43:34 PM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Theresawithanh

Found the link:

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/charen050206.asp


25 posted on 05/02/2006 12:45:26 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I stuck around...)
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To: SerpentDove
except for the libs who think it was not fair to the terrorists (NY Times OP ED)

Is that right? Disgusting!

26 posted on 05/02/2006 12:49:13 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Coastal

The same review as everyone else. Saw it opening day, total silence during, at the end, and while exiting.

They did an excellent job of putting you back when it was happening, one unbelievable crash at a time, each building collapsing, and how you felt when you heard each event.

Unbelievably, I had forgotten several events, such as the immediate landing of all planes over the U.S., over 4,500, and no flights for quite awhile.

I will own the DVD when it comes out so I can NEVER FORGET whenever I want.


27 posted on 05/02/2006 12:50:28 PM PDT by hadnuf
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To: lovecraft

Yes, I was pretty angry as well. When the lights came up, nobody said anything, but I was pretty hot. My brother, who is a fairly liberal guy (without the associated mental disability that normally goes along with it) didn't say a word. When we got outside, he said "It sure makes it a lot easier to hate Muslims..."

I said "No, it makes it a LOT easier to hate Islamofacist scumbag terrorist Muslims."

I know enough American Muslims personally to know they generally do not support those hideous activites shown in the movie.


28 posted on 05/02/2006 12:51:59 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: cdga5for4
I went by myself late yesterday afternoon. All I can say is if you have any inclination to go, do it. It's one of the more unique films I've ever seen.

I went by myself today. I wasn't the only one in the theater crying angry tears when it ended.

29 posted on 05/02/2006 1:04:17 PM PDT by spookycc (Never forget! Never again!)
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To: coconutt2000

I've already posted on other threads. Saw it on Saturday with my husband. It is a MUST SEE movie. The theater was full and it was totally silent when it was over. Everyone left with the utmost respect. I think the director did a great job and should be thanked again for making a truly intense and powerful movie without running amuck in Hollyweird crap.


30 posted on 05/02/2006 1:04:57 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: TXBubba

9-11 is the only time in my memory where the crazed left actually took a breath and backed off. I mean even the ACLU was for suspending certain liberties on 9-12. There are some lines you do not cross, even if you are an otherwise run of the mill moonbat. Politicizing that morning is one of them. I'll never forget the fear and uncertainty of that day. I was driving to work. Got to work. Digested 15 more minutes and went to school to get my kids and go home.


31 posted on 05/02/2006 1:27:38 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: cdga5for4

Nope, Todd was not wearing the baseball hat, this write got that part wrong!


32 posted on 05/02/2006 1:29:20 PM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: coconutt2000

I love that no one on the flight had more status in the movie than anyone else. I loved that everyone on the flight was made to be important and there were no main characters.

It was an excellant movie with no political slant and totally based on the truth of what happend that horrible day.

I highly recommend seeing it and suggest all American's do!


33 posted on 05/02/2006 1:32:01 PM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

One of many scenes that got me was the departure lounge. It looked so normal, not a pre packaged Hollywood set. The people looked like the same you would see in one. No indication that anything out of the ordinary was going to happen. It struck me hard that it could have been any of us.


34 posted on 05/02/2006 1:35:28 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: kinghorse
Politicizing that morning is one of them

I agree with you on that. However, I do predict that all subsequent 9/11 films are going to do exactly that. I base that on who is directing them. I am so glad this movie came out first.

35 posted on 05/02/2006 1:47:42 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: kinghorse
9-11 is the only time in my memory where the crazed left actually took a breath and backed off.

It didn't last long though. And it isn't that they actually loved America any more after the attacks----it's just that they knew better than to spout their knee-jerk America-hate so soon after that day.

36 posted on 05/02/2006 1:48:46 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Coastal

United 93 beat RV in yesterday's (Monday's)box office. Yesterday it was number one.


37 posted on 05/02/2006 1:57:13 PM PDT by somerville
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To: lovecraft


<< My parents, my wife and I, and a friend and his wife all went on Sunday. The lady's wept, and my jaw is still so sore I can barely chew from clenching my teeth in anger during the last 20 minutes. >>


Exactly my reaction. I became very emotional at several points -- but during the climactic scene, and for hours afterward, I was just filled with rage -- not just at the terrorists, but at the lefties who are defending and abetting them.




38 posted on 05/02/2006 2:10:19 PM PDT by Almagest
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To: Coastal

FYI = "United 93" on Monday became the leading movie in the United States per "BoxOfficeMoJo.com", the leading movie web site. I hope it continues that path. Every American should this movie. It is a "critical path" item in the war against terror.


39 posted on 05/02/2006 2:12:58 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: somerville

I'm hoping it will grow a bit more this week as word of mouth spreads.


40 posted on 05/02/2006 2:57:25 PM PDT by Coastal
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Very true.


41 posted on 05/02/2006 3:50:39 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Coastal
Many people are talking about it. It was discussed extensively on Bill O'Reilly. I am sure also on many other shows.

A groups of us were talking about it many of whom has seen it. And the opinion was that few films have elicited anywhere such strong reactions - something I have heard mentioned several times. In addition to "The Passion of Christ," other films mentioned that evoked strong emotional responses were "Bravehart" and "Black Hawk Down."

42 posted on 05/02/2006 3:59:22 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Coastal

My feeling is that it will grow this week. It has had less of a box office drop than the other movies yesterday.


43 posted on 05/02/2006 4:13:56 PM PDT by somerville
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To: coconutt2000
Any first hand reviews?

Just arrived home a half hour ago from seeing the movie 'United 93'. Very intense, found myself fidgeting during the movie which is something I rarely do. Bottom line great movie ... the only issue I have, apparently for dramatic effect, the hijackers used dual edged dagger like knives instead of box cutters. Knives of that type would not clear security, even before 9-11.

44 posted on 05/02/2006 4:22:45 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Yes, I noticed that scene as well with the woman standing in line(?). She had a disgusted look on her face, lol.

Yes, it could have been any of us...just normal people going to their destinations...normal people with normal joe lives...

This movie "United 93" has been on my mind a lot..especially today for some reason. Like others here on FR, I got angry with tears in my eyes when I saw the film...a mixture of anger, sadness, helplessness.

I still do when I think of that film.

I saw the Passion of Christ, I too cried. But I didn't get angry in that film, for I was the reason He was on the cross. I didn't get angry when I saw Private Ryan (first 15 minutes worth). This film is different in so many ways than those 2 films. This happened 5 years ago, so so recent. So damn fresh on people's minds. It's like we just pulled a scab on the wound of 9/11 when we saw this film. The emotions didn't disappear, it just gushed out all over again.

I am not saying this pulling is bad..it might be for the good. For what it has done for so many people(including myself)is that we was actually slapped with the reality of 9/11 with the viewing of this film. We thought that day was buried and gone, but it has not. The reality is still with us and we simply forgot about it because of the horror, the pain, the shock of 9/11. I am going to get the DVD and show it to all who is willing NOT to forget what happened on that dark day. We must NOT forget what we are fighting against...not a people, a race, but a philosophy, an ideaology that is going to kill us all if we don't get our heads out of the sand and do something now.

45 posted on 05/02/2006 4:33:14 PM PDT by GulfWar1Vet (Remember 9/11...and the reason we are fighting. Islam is a threat to our national security.)
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To: coconutt2000
Any first hand reviews?

yeah. Just saw it this afternoon. I went with my independent/liberal leaning boyfriend. He cried. Before he dropped me off he said, "Everyone who lived through 911 needs to see this film."

46 posted on 05/02/2006 4:56:44 PM PDT by EBH (We're too PC to understand WAR has been declared upon us and the enemy is within.)
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To: rlmorel

I too know many muzzies, and many expressed their hatred of America and blamed the Jews for 9-11


47 posted on 05/02/2006 6:13:50 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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To: coconutt2000; Coastal

The last movie I saw at the theater was Titanic in 1998. (Well, maybe I went to one in 1999?)

Anyway, I went to see this Monday afternoon. It is great and I recommend it highly.

What the passengers did on United Flight 93 that day represents the FIRST victory in the war on terror!

The hijackers had the Capitol Building as the intended target.


48 posted on 05/03/2006 5:59:26 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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