My patience with diplomacy is gone.
Posted on 05/02/2006 6:53:47 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
BRUSSELS, May 2, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The European Union continues to favour the homosexual movement’s program at the expense of national sovereignty and religious rights. A new law coming into effect today effectively orders the countries of the Union to “facilitate” homosexual partners who have “married” in their home countries and want to live or travel in countries where their unions are not legally recognized.
The law is intended to allow EU citizens to move around the Union as freely as they do within their own countries. The directive means that citizens within the EU will no longer be obliged to obtain a residence permit when moving to another member state. When registering in their new country, homosexual couples may use the European Courts to force sovereign countries to recognize their unions.
The law will force countries to allow nationals of other states to live permanently in the new country without visas or residency permits. In some places in the EU, such as Malta, immigration is extremely problematic due to limitations on space and economic and natural resources.
Although only five EU member states have ratified the decision, European justice commissioner Franco Frattini warned national governments that the law was “immediately applicable” – whether ratified or not.
The law applies not only to the states but to individuals who may move and then use the courts to force member states to comply. As of the compliance deadline today, only Austria, Denmark, Slovenia, Slovakia and the UK have ratified, with measures pending in France and Spain.
Three countries of the EU, the Netherlands, Belgium and Spain have laws which allow homosexuals to imitate lawful marriage. Britain, Germany and a number of other countries have accommodated homosexual unions with some form of civil recognition. Other states, however, such as Poland, Italy and Malta have resisted the push by lobbyists for “gay marriage” and the threat of coercion, becoming a common method of EU politics, is directed against them.
The law will require states to carry out investigations into the nature of the relationship and determine if the partners are in a “long-term stable relationship.”
“The main provision is that you can recognise marriages or partnerships only when the hosting country has similar provisions,” said Frattini.
“In those cases where there is no direct obligation to recognise, member states must facilitate entry and residence of partners in a durable relationship after a concrete assessment. This new provision will facilitate the situation of gay couples across Europe,” Frattini said.
Frattini is a former leader in the Italian Socialist party and a long time member of Silvio Berlusconi’s government. He was appointed to the EU to replace Rocco Buttiglione who, as a believing Catholic, was opposed to the homosexual movement’s legal inroads in European politics.
Buttlglione said the EU is advancing a leftist “soft totalitarianism,” that “wants to have a state religion. It is an atheist, nihilistic religion - but it is a religion that is obligatory for all.”
I think it's stuffed!
As someone who just spent a year living and studying in Europe, I feel fairly confident in saying that, unless it cleans up its act in the next 15 years, its doomed.
I feel for Poland. Which is worse: being forced to acknowledge gay "marriage?" or being under the thumb of Communism?
How does the EU deal with the Pope? Don't think I've ever heard.
The EU is no more viable than the U.N..
Both will fall, sooner rather than later ---- I hope!
Semper Fi
May 2, 2006 – CBS and the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
(GLAAD) have teamed up to produce a series of Public Service Announcements
(PSAs) that will be dropped into a day-time soap opera promoting teen
homosexuality.
The collapse of the EU is inevitable, when it behaves like this. The basic paradox is that they claim to be modern, progressive, and forward looking, but they are unelected and responsible to no one. At least in a Communist country, this guy would be running unopposed. In the EU, he doesn't even have to run.
Who is this guy who is dictating to the member nations? Unelected, unfirable, sitting in his classy bureaucratic office, telling people what to do.
Even the French voted against this kind of nonsense. But the EU bureaucrats go right ahead, laying down the law, regardless.
What would you say were the major problems? I'm interested in hearing about Europe from people who have visited there.
This is a taste of what one world order will be like, if we let it happen.
Most of my family is from Malta. I visited there a few years ago, just before they joined the EU, and the people there I talked to didn't want anything to do with it at all.
Yes, Europe is in alot of trouble.....but so are we. Apathy breeds socialism, which breeds ignorance, which causes disasters.
That makes no sense. How can this be law if only a few countries have ratified it?
EU to Force Poland, Malta, Italy to Recognize Gay “Marriages”
LOL -Poland resisted the morally devoid Communists; resisting the morally corrupt Socialists will comparatively be a cake walk...
I wonder how this will play with the Muslim community.
This is wrong on so many levels, and to think the elitist cultural marxists who are doing this, treading on Poland's and Italy's rights for the sake of policies that undermines family and marriage, think they are morally superior to the 'backward' believers in tradition. UGGG.
Maybe a brave EU country will have the balls to withdraw from EU.
or are these countries on EU welfare?
Unfortunately Poland willingly joined the EU, though they obviously did not understand its purpose (make a socialist, secular, nihilist, "Utopia" of Europe). Poland ought to get out while they still can.
I lived in Germany for almost seven years. The biggest problem with Europe is laziness and apathy.
It can be debated as to what caused this, but my opinion has to do with what happened after WWII. After the war, all of the countries there were completely devasted and they wanted nothing more to do with conflict. We added to the problem by rebuilding their economies for them, but also by completely providing their defense.
With our military protecting them, they had no need to think about such matters as national security or having competent militaries. This would have been understandable for a short time after the war until they were able to stand on their own feet again. But when they reached that point, our military (their free defense) stayed. Money that they should have used to provide for their own defense was instead spent on elaborate social programs.
So, they don't have to worry about paying for a decent military, they have been conditioned to become pacifists and that war is always wrong no matter what, and they have had their governments providing them with cradle to grave Welfare (with a capital 'W'). The laziness and apathy which has been bred into them has resulted in a generation of people there who recognize no threat, and have no values which they will, or feel that they should, fight for.
Sorry if that seemed a bit long winded, but this is just a theory that a friend and I have been developing for the past few years.
If I were the president of Poland, I'd tell the EU that we are still a sovereign nation and decide what we recognize.
Poland got out from under one form of communism, and is now being forced into bowing to another one.
Poland should tell the EU to shove it.
I see somewhat of a parallel between the EU and the US in the first part of the 1800s. States joined the US voluntarily, just as countries have joined the EU voluntarily.
In the US, everything was fine until some states decided that they no longer wanted to be a part of this voluntary Union. We all know what happened; "voluntary" didn't end up meaning very much. It will be interesting to see what will happen if some European countries decide that they no longer wish to be a part of their voluntary union.
No children. Seriously. You don't see a lot of kids. And the adults dressing like teenagers doesn't help anything. People seem unwilling to help themselves. Heavy dependence on the state. Lots of angry immigrants sitting around and doing nothing (aside from petty and not so petty street crime). This is particularly true in France, Germany and parts of Italy. And London, but not so much the rest of England (I guess Manchester and Liverpool too, but not so much the rest of the country as a whole).
A lot of talented people moving away. Either to America, Canada, Australia or just bouncing about within the EU. Younger people are very very mobile there. No pride or patriotism.
Everything is very expensive. And small. You get a lot of style, but not a lot of substance, and sometimes not too much quality either. This is true of everything from food to cars to over the counter drugstore stuff. Gas is outrageously expensive there (just over 2 bucks Canadian for a liter in Britain, and significantly worse in some other countries). Fashion is cheap, though.
Noone has much hope of anything.
The EU is somewhere between a joke and a nightmare. It's a laughably inefficient and powerless bureacracy, which nonetheless acts as a kind of soft fascism and bullies member states into conformity.
It's also very racist. This sounds odd, and at ends with the high degree of politically correct post-modernist BS baggage and BS present, but its true. Vastly more racism than you encounter in the states or in Canada. To any libs lurking, imagine this; I've spent time in the American south, in the heart of what the ignorant New Yorkers might consider KKK territory (that is, if it was still around in any appreciable form even lol) and I've never heard the n-word so much in my life as when I was in Britain. And there were linguistic equivalents in France.
Germany also has appreciable amounts of neo-nazis again.
Unemployment is a huge problem, outside of Britain. Normally, double what the American unemployment rate is, or more. Easily 10% in many (perhaps most?) EU countries. Almost, or over, 20% in some areas (Eastern Germany, Poland, some parts of France come to mind).
not enough land. You don't realize how small Europe is until you drive around there.
No, not at all. I'm trying to get a grasp on Europe, and it really helps to have people who live/have lived there tell about their experiences.
Thanks for your thoughts.
That is the question and that is the tragedy of post-Communist Europe. They seem to have traded one kind of outside interference for another.
Why in Russia, the Baptists, the Orthodox Jews and the Orthodox Christians persuaded the govt. to ban "gay pride parades" and since they are not in the EU, they can get away with banning "gay pride" parades.
Very true about there not being alot of kids, and how adults dress like, and have the mentality of, teenagers. I would say that this is because Christianity has been all but relegated to a cult status there. No one believes in anything at all....except in their own greatness and righteousness. Those who are religous are, for the most part, mocked and viewed as being backward thinking hicks. In Germany, you can spot out the religous people because they are the ones who tend to have more than one or two children. Families with more than two (and sometimes one) child are often looked down upon by others.
Because the EU was designed so Germany and France could be the main dictators of power, design all the EU legislation and social model, tell everyone what they are supposed to think and do, and control the way governments run their finances.
The rest of Europe is supposed to do whatever a small group of leftist facists tells them to do and have their own national identities, morals, and values thrown under the bus.
The EU constitution was the size of a phone book!
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Malta will never surrender! Their cute little dogs will fight to the death!
"Ich bin ein Maltese!"
This is very sad. I like Poland.
BTTT.
Gosh, that is a depressing assessment.
But it makes me more determined to fight against creeping socialism in this country.
I'm begining to wonder if the Muslim threat will be the saving of Europe instead of its downfall. There's nothing like watching your civilization slipping away to rouse people to action. Europeans may find that they value their culture more then they know.
I want WAR!!!!!
Ping! What did JB6 tell you was going to happen?
The thing that struck me, last time I flew over Europe, was how little forest and timber there seemed to be from the air. Everything looked like patchwork, no trees.
The contrast was particularly striking, flying into Boston, where the entire landscape seemed forested, with buildings and roads peeping out, even in an area that by American standards, is fairly heavily populated.
An EU form of government here is one of my worst nightmares. I don't like the rumblings I'm hearing about the North American Security Zone, it could too easily turn into another EU.
I love my neighborhood, we have lots of children here. Thundering in and out of each other's houses, it wouldn't be the same without them. How sad that the Europeans no longer regard that as a pleasure.
I don't know why the hell we got into this stupid satanic mess, when we have Ukraine and Lithuania next door, and Hungary and the other Slavic countries just a little farther away. If we could stop bickering and get together, and leave the accursed eu, what could the eu do?
That's another thing. Yeah.
Yep. I'm Jewish. Even more Jews are secular there than here. I found that kinda sad, given that post-modernist PC humanism seems to have succeeded where Hitler failed.
And yeah, the churches are all empty. And there's no countryside.
I was staying, most of the time, in a university in a part of Britain that is pretty (in fact, very) rural. All farmland, no forest. Also, sheep stink. Worse than cows, I think. Although I may be prejudiced, because a distant cousin of mine has a dairy farm and I have very fond memories of it. Plus, my family's cottage is in cow country, Ontario. ;)
Noticed all of that. Tragic, isn't it?
This could make the Maltese very cross...
Isolationism is sounding better and better by the minute.
Bump for a later read
Hungarians are not Slavs. And, they are quite liberal. I have many Hungarian friends( and some married into my family) and I like them, but they are ALL, very very liberal in regards to gays.
Nice image. Where did you find it?
Yes, they should do just that!!
If you lay down with the EU, you get gays.. and worse.
I think they need to get out of the EU asap!!
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