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Wal-Mart Is Right
King Features Online ^ | May 3, 2006 | Charley Reese

Posted on 05/02/2006 11:56:46 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk

Wal-Mart is the only corporation in the world that I know of or have ever heard of that is hated because it is successful. What do these critics want Wal-Mart to do? Fail? Start selling $300 shirts like Saks Fifth Avenue?

Of course, some of the hatred is coming from unions, which have tried but, so far as I know, failed to unionize Wal-Mart's work force. That one thing tells you that it must be a much better deal to work for Wal-Mart than its critics let on. Some of the disdain comes from leftist snobs who think they should run the lives of the peasants who work and shop there.

I am a small-town guy who has hated to see so many locally owned small businesses go under, but that's not Wal-Mart's fault. That trend started years ago with suburban sprawl (a major contributor to the energy crisis, by the way), suburban shopping malls, strip malls and all the other discounters that preceded Wal-Mart in prominence. It was caused by the American public's preference to buy based on price, rather than on service or quality. It was caused by local politicians converting the National Defense Highway System (the interstates) into suburban and urban commuter systems by routing them through instead of around the cities.

Wal-Mart is one of the best-run corporations in the world. The individual consumer has no clout with suppliers and manufacturers. Wal-Mart uses its enormous buying clout to get consumers the best price at the best quality possible. Being a supplier to Wal-Mart is no picnic, as the company is quite demanding.

It's not Wal-Mart's fault that much of its merchandise is manufactured in China. The late Sam Walton went to extraordinary lengths to help American manufacturers, but Wal-Mart doesn't control any corporation except itself. The move to China is not coming from Wal-Mart, but from greedy manufacturing corporations that love cheap and controlled labor. If your competitor is selling an American brand-name product made in China cheaper than you can buy one here, and if the customer says, "I don't care where it's made as long as I can afford it," what are you going to do?

More recently, Wal-Mart has been slammed for not providing what its critics think it should in the way of medical insurance. Well, why is General Motors flirting with bankruptcy? Why is Ford Motor Co. in financial trouble? Why, for that matter, is the federal government in financial trouble? The stinking hag in this room that everyone is ignoring is the high cost of medical service.

You can't provide low-cost health care or low-cost medical insurance for a system run by millionaire doctors and six-figure hospital administrators, and that has 1,200 percent profit margins for drugs and medical devices. The health-industry attitude is, we'll profiteer like crazy, and you people find a way to pay us. If Congress were not a bought-and-paid-for whore, America could join the rest of the industrialized world with a reasonable health-care system.

Health-care costs are one of the key factors in making American manufacturers uncompetitive. Now that the state of Maryland has presumed to dictate what kind of benefits Wal-Mart provides, if I ran the company, I'd close every store in the state and put the property up for sale. This is just one more ploy in the anti-Wal-Mart crusade.

We have reached a sick and perverted point in our culture when honesty and success bring attacks, mainly from people who either don't know what they are talking about or have a hidden agenda.

Millions of Americans who earn low wages from other employers rely on Wal-Mart to help them stretch their family budget. Wal-Mart has kept faith with those people. I've never found a dirty store, a rude employee or a defective product in a Wal-Mart store.

If you prefer to pay more than something's worth in exchange for some phony ambience or fancy label, go right ahead. In the meantime, get off Wal-Mart's back. It's one of the few entities in this country that is doing the right thing the right way for the right reasons.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: charleyreese; reese; retail; walmart
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1 posted on 05/02/2006 11:56:47 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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To: Joe Bfstplk

Good article


2 posted on 05/03/2006 12:10:59 AM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: Joe Bfstplk
Wal-Mart is the only corporation in the world that I know of or have ever heard of that is hated because it is successful.

What about 'Big Oil'?

3 posted on 05/03/2006 12:13:18 AM PDT by opinionator
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To: Joe Bfstplk
"Wal-Mart is the only corporation in the world that I know of or have ever heard of that is hated because it is successful.."

Reece is nuts. Try Halliburton, for example. And many other corporations in U.S. history have been hated for being successful. Standard Oil and the old, big railroad companies stand out in U.S. history as having been hated for being successful.

4 posted on 05/03/2006 12:25:47 AM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: Joe Bfstplk
I've never found a dirty store, a rude employee or a defective product in a Wal-Mart store.

This guy must only go to that one Wal=Mart in the far off land of Oz.

5 posted on 05/03/2006 1:15:00 AM PDT by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: Joe Bfstplk

Walmart isn't hated because it is successful. Walmart is hated because it destroys American jobs, American companies, American communities and American wages for it's own good. WalMart is hated because it does what Republicans and Democrats in Washington are currently doing - putting money ahead of Americans and America. This story is just another attempt to whitewash the issue by painting a strawman.


6 posted on 05/03/2006 1:17:48 AM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Joe Bfstplk
If Congress were not a bought-and-paid-for whore...

This should be automatically inserted in front of every post at FR.

7 posted on 05/03/2006 1:27:26 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Havoc

Yeah, Wal-Mart destroys American jobs, American companies, American communities, and American wages. I mean, who wouldn't want to work for a mom and pop for minimum wage with no insurance?

Wal-Mart hatred is silly. You don't like Wal-Mart, shop somewhere else. Capitalism is good.


8 posted on 05/03/2006 1:34:53 AM PDT by okiecon
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To: okiecon

Capitalism may be good. That has nothing to do with whether Walmart is or not. Funny that rather than defend them, you resort to defending capitalism which none of us have any beef with.. Strawman anyone?



9 posted on 05/03/2006 1:51:11 AM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Havoc

Why do you hate America?

(joke, it's a joke)


10 posted on 05/03/2006 1:53:22 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Caipirabob
Amen. Bought and paid for by the guys that brought you globalism, offshoring, illegal labor, Visa abuse to undermine US wages and benefits and cheat supply and demand.. Can you say 'treason.' I knew you could
11 posted on 05/03/2006 1:55:11 AM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Joe Bfstplk
I've never found a dirty store, a rude employee or a defective product in a Wal-Mart store.

In my neck of the woods, they have a few defective employees. I always say hello to the employees there to greet customers at the door, and more than half the time they don't acknowledge. They will look right at you and say nothing. Maybe they need to be rotated a little more frequently, eh?
And by the way, if they DON'T close up every store in Maryland, they're not practicing capitalism, they're an accessory after the fact to fascism.

12 posted on 05/03/2006 2:03:43 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: okiecon

Capitalism may be good, but it's not always kind, warm and fuzzy.

Suggested reading: Joseph Schumpeter/creative destruction


13 posted on 05/03/2006 2:05:42 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Graymatter

The greeters in my area are always nice and respond when I say 'hi'!
They are almost always senior citizens, which may account for their politeness......
Sometimes it is a problem actually FINDING someone to help you in the rest of the store.
Why am I going to pay more if I dont have to?


14 posted on 05/03/2006 2:16:45 AM PDT by carmenbmw (My cats name is Mean. He earned it.)
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15 posted on 05/03/2006 2:26:00 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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anyone have an Ace Hardware near them? I can't understand how they can afford to have 1 guy for every 3 aisles to walk up to you "can I help you?"

Spend 5 minutes in there and four people will ask you if you need help. Its NOT a good thing after a while


16 posted on 05/03/2006 2:28:37 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: Irene Adler
I remember ... many, many years ago, as a young boy ... passing by a telephone pole on which a lineman had climbed up ... and I remember hearing ...

"Hello ... Ma?"

17 posted on 05/03/2006 2:34:37 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Joe Bfstplk
"Wal-Mart is the only corporation in the world that I know of or have ever heard of that is hated because it is successful."

"You can't provide low-cost health care or low-cost medical insurance for a system run by millionaire doctors and six-figure hospital administrators, and that has 1,200 percent profit margins for drugs and medical devices. The health-industry attitude is, we'll profiteer like crazy, and you people find a way to pay us."

Apparently, Mr. Reese hates the medical profession for the same reasons other folks hate Wal-Mart. Author, heal thyself.

18 posted on 05/03/2006 2:56:38 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Havoc

Does this mean that your alternative is SOCIALISM? Just wondering. Amen.


19 posted on 05/03/2006 2:58:47 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Joe Bfstplk
I've never found a dirty store, a rude employee or a defective product in a Wal-Mart store.

That may have been the case in the past.

20 posted on 05/03/2006 3:01:07 AM PDT by TankerKC (┐JosÚ puede usted ver?)
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To: okiecon

Capitalism is good.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. Capitalism isn't good. No.

Capitalism is OUTSTANDING!

21 posted on 05/03/2006 3:07:35 AM PDT by rdb3 (I think I'll stay in Arkansas... Naa, back to Ohio for me.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

anyone have an Ace Hardware near them? I can't understand how they can afford to have 1 guy for every 3 aisles to walk up to you "can I help you?"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Pathetic wages and high prices?


22 posted on 05/03/2006 3:27:31 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: rdb3

300 dollar shirts, no, but they could stock 40 dollar shirts that don't shrink two sizes and fall apart after two washes. Clothing quality is about the only beef I have with Wal-Mart. I think it's a great store, overall.


23 posted on 05/03/2006 3:30:16 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: Joe Bfstplk
Wal-Mart is the only corporation in the world that I know of or have ever heard of that is hated because it is successful

Ever hear of a little company called Microsoft, Charlie? ExxonMobile? Wake up and smell the latte.
24 posted on 05/03/2006 3:40:06 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Havoc
Amen. Bought and paid for by the guys that brought you globalism, offshoring, illegal labor, Visa abuse to undermine US wages and benefits and cheat supply and demand..

That is what this nation said in 1928 and the result was the Smoot Hawley tariff to limit the importation of cheap foreign goods. There was a real rejection of illegal immigration. Italian immigrants were called WOPS because they were undocumented workers. WOPS is an acronym or With Out Papers. The result of the Smoot Hawley tariff and severely limited immigration was the implementation of retaliatory tariffs all over the world. The result of that was the great world wide depression.

If you got your way you would produce a depression that would make the 1930s look like good times.

Those who refuse to learn history are doomed to repeat it.


25 posted on 05/03/2006 4:02:57 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Havoc
No wonder Philip K. Dick was crazy it looks like his vision of the future is coming true


26 posted on 05/03/2006 4:05:36 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: Joe Bfstplk

"Wal-Mart is the only corporation in the world that I know of or have ever heard of that is hated because it is successful."

Nah - this phenomenon is more common than you think. When General Motors was on top of the heap they were nothing but a target to everybody from the crackpots to the mainstream media.

The United States itself isn't hated for any logical reason; it's hated all over the globe because it's big and successful in a petty and faltering world. Sort of like Cain rising up and killing Abel because Abel was right and Cain couldn't stand it.


27 posted on 05/03/2006 4:25:23 AM PDT by RoadTest (The wicked love darkness; but God's people love the Light!)
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To: Havoc
You'd have a hard time listing any companies that have not "destroyed American jobs, American companies, American communities and American wages for it's own good."

I hate to break this to you, but that's pretty much the way a market-based economy has always worked.

28 posted on 05/03/2006 4:29:27 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: opinionator

...and Microsoft...


29 posted on 05/03/2006 5:08:58 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!)
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To: Joe Bfstplk

See it only took 6 replies to find one here on FR.
They are all over the place.


30 posted on 05/03/2006 5:11:48 AM PDT by WKB (Gal. 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.)
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To: Havoc
Walmart isn't hated because it is successful. Walmart is hated because it destroys American jobs, American companies, American communities and American wages for it's own good. WalMart is hated because it does what Republicans and Democrats in Washington are currently doing - putting money ahead of Americans and America. This story is just another attempt to whitewash the issue by painting a strawman.

Yep, damn that WalMart for being successful under Capitalism! I guess we need to go Socialist so we can have a paradise like the old Soviet Union.

31 posted on 05/03/2006 5:15:14 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Joe Bfstplk
And according to the leftists, Walmart supposedly "leans" to the right - however, that's supposed to happen. I've heard that Costco is more supportive of Dem's. Does anyone know if Costco employees are unionized? I wonder if Costco employees are paid higher average hourly wages than Walmart. Do they get paid health care no matter how many hours per week they work?

There are a zillion corporations that are paying their help comparable to Walmart. I doubt Burger King and McDonald's hamburger flippers are earning double digit hourly wages.

And yet these same leftist snobs can't get it through their thick skulls that the more demands the government makes on a company, large or small, the less there is to pay employees. For instance, I am surprised at the number of people (usually bleeding heart types) who don't know that the companies we work for have to match our social security and medicare payments out of their gross income.

Maybe it's a drop in the ocean for AT&T but for the small and medium sized small business it's a big chunk. Though I wish all companies would abide by the illegal immigrant hiring laws, I can understand why they try to sneak by hiring them. The government pressures are getting greater and greater on both businesses and individuals. Sometimes one almost feels forced to break an unfair law, not because they want to in a screw you attitude, but because they just won't make be able to make it otherwise.

32 posted on 05/03/2006 5:51:07 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: Havoc
Walmart isn't hated because it is successful. Walmart is hated because it destroys American jobs, American companies, American communities and American wages for it's own good. WalMart is hated because it does what Republicans and Democrats in Washington are currently doing - putting money ahead of Americans and America. This story is just another attempt to whitewash the issue by painting a strawman

How can any rational person hate a company that employes millions and then blame them for destroying jobs. Every company is in business to make money and no company puts America and Americans ahead of profit, whatever that means. Here is your solution to the greedy Wal-Mart problem.


33 posted on 05/03/2006 5:53:43 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: Joe Bfstplk
There is so much wrong with this article, but this one stuck in my craw:

"The move to China is not coming from Wal-Mart, but from greedy manufacturing corporations that love cheap and controlled labor."

That, my friend, is what some people call a lie.

Wal-Mart does pressure corporations to send manufacturing offshore to lower-cost manufacturers by demanding from its suppliers, year after year, incrementally lower prices. Wal-Mart's customers don't demand that. Wal-Mart demands that. They demand it so they can dominate the market, drive competitors out of business, and line the already bulging pockets of the Walton clan.

The inevitable effect of Wal-Mart's demands on suppliers is to send American manufacturing jobs to China. Here is but one example:

"Take the L.R. Nelson lawn sprinklers, which used to be made in Peoria, Ill., before Wal-Mart pressured Nelson to make them in China instead. Before the move, one laid-off Peoria worker told the reporter, Chinese managers were "walking around the plant and videotaping us working. That was horrible, horrendous. Right in our faces. They are taking our jobs." (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/12/AR2006041202186_4.html)

...all so Wal-Mart can offer a lawn sprinkler at a lower cost. Maybe I missed where consumers were picketing stores demanding cheaper lawn sprinklers, but I doubt it.

I'm a capitalist. I love to make a fair profit from my customers. But there are limits. I don't demand higher profits where it leads to injury or death. I don't demand higher profits where it leads to sweat shops and child labor. And I don't demand higher profits where it leads to the evisceration of the American manufacturing base, ultimately weakening this country.

34 posted on 05/03/2006 6:01:48 AM PDT by Air Force Brat
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To: 3catsanadog

If you use google and look up Wal-Mart versus Costco, you will find a number of articles comparing the too.

Short answers to your questions:

1. About 13 percent of Costco's employees are unionized.

2. Costco employees are paid more than average in the retail industry, including more than at Wal-Mart.

3. Costco's health care eligibility requirements for health care are more generous than Wal-Mart's. Specifically, Costco employees become eligible for health insurance after three months working full time, or six months part time. At Wal-Mart, many who work full time must wait six months to become eligible. Part-time workers are not eligible for at least two years. Because of turnover, some employees never work long enough to become eligible. (http://www.brynmawr.edu/admissions/careers/abelson_story2.htm)

Costco has even been criticized by Wall Street analysts for being so generous to its employees. One analyst quipped a few years ago that it was better to be an employee at Costco than to be a shareholder of Costco stock.

As time has passed, however, these criticisms have disappeared. Why? Compare stock performance.

Five years ago, Wal-Mart stock was trading at roughly $52 a share. Today, it's at about $46 a share. If you'd invested $1,000 dollars in Wal-Mart five years ago, you would have lost about $115 dollars.

Five years ago, Costco stock was trading at roughly $35 a share. Today, it's at about $54 a share. If you'd invested $1,000 in Costco five years ago you would have gained about $543.

That's why you don't hear as much criticism of Costco's employee compensation program these days from Wall Street.


35 posted on 05/03/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by Air Force Brat
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To: Havoc

Yet despite the Evil Wal-Mart's best efforts--unemployment remains at record lows. If more companies would "destroy America" by lowering prices thereby improving the way of life of the lower-to-middle classes, then we'd be in real trouble.


36 posted on 05/03/2006 6:47:52 AM PDT by flada (Posting in a manner reminiscent of Jen-gis Kahn.)
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To: Joe Bfstplk
You can't provide low-cost health care or low-cost medical insurance for a system run by millionaire doctors and six-figure hospital administrators, and that has 1,200 percent profit margins for drugs and medical devices. The health-industry attitude is, we'll profiteer like crazy, and you people find a way to pay us.

The problem is not doctors, it's lawyers.

I've never found a dirty store, a rude employee or a defective product in a Wal-Mart store.

I'm no Wal-mart basher, but this person is living in fantasy-land.

37 posted on 05/03/2006 6:53:56 AM PDT by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: Havoc

Ok, when you actually define your beef with Wal-Mart, instead of just spewing a litany of accusations, I will.


38 posted on 05/03/2006 11:58:57 AM PDT by okiecon
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To: Sloth
The problem is not doctors, it's lawyers.

Sometimes. A lot of the problem is that certain doctors have crazy amounts of true malpractice claims and those individuals drive up malpractice insurance for everyone else. Lawyers have hurt a lot, but, I firmly believe that if lawyers would not have sued constantly the quality of medical care would be a lot lower. It is more complex than just being the lawyers fault.

Malpractice reform is just another way to screw with the free market.
39 posted on 05/03/2006 12:09:59 PM PDT by okiecon
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To: Havoc; Gabz

Nonsense.


40 posted on 05/03/2006 12:13:08 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: Air Force Brat
Costco and Walmart are not direct competitors. If you want to compare Walmart's wages/benefits do so with Target and Kmart not Cotsco.

Also, why do you pick 5 years ago to start looking at stock price? How about 20 years? How did Wal-Mart investors do over a 20 year period?

Look at this chart to see how misleading your 5 year comparison is:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=my&s=WMT&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=cost
41 posted on 05/03/2006 12:39:29 PM PDT by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: Air Force Brat
Wal-Mart's customers don't demand that.

Yes, they do. If they didn't want lower prices, they probably wouldn't be shopping at WalMart.

Maybe I missed where consumers were picketing stores demanding cheaper lawn sprinklers, but I doubt it.

If customers really don't care, you should be able to make a killing selling higher priced products made in the US, or at least not China. But customers by their actions indicate that they really do like cheaper lawn sprinklers.

And I don't demand higher profits where it leads to the evisceration of the American manufacturing base

US manufacturing output keeps rising, albeit with fewer workers due to large productivity increases.

42 posted on 05/03/2006 12:46:21 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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To: Joe Bfstplk

This article is pure BS. It tries to state that Wal-Mart is an innocent victim who is sold Chinese goods against their will.

Wal-Mart seeks out Chinese goods. Period.


43 posted on 05/03/2006 12:50:02 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: KneelBeforeZod

That's why I like Ace Hardware, makes it easy to get in and out of the place, they know where everything is and can help you figure out what you need. Much better than Home Depot where you have to lasso somebody to ask a question and the only answer they ever seem to have is "that not in this section, I think it's in (insert section on the other side of the store)".


44 posted on 05/03/2006 12:53:42 PM PDT by discostu (raise your glass of beer on high, and seal your fate forever)
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To: CodeToad
Wal-Mart seeks out Chinese goods. Period.

Wal-Mart seeks out cheap goods. Because that's what their customers want.

45 posted on 05/03/2006 1:00:59 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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To: gakrak

Well, we can see that you've read the default response playbook on how to color the dialogue with nonsense. Go stand in the corner.


46 posted on 05/03/2006 7:46:52 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Common Tator

A depression.. you mean going back to the model that made us a wealthy nation prior to free trade will lead us to a depression. I think you'll need to establish that factually.
Your Smoot Hawley reference is sheer moronic nonsense. Nobody is recommending any such thing. Just another strawman from the treason playbook to color the argument with utter nonsense.


47 posted on 05/03/2006 7:49:40 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Alberta's Child

No, sorry. The market based economy in the USA has not always sold out America and Americans for profit. The leftists, maybe.. eg the Rosenburgs..


48 posted on 05/03/2006 7:51:15 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: trebb

Damn Walmart for being successful.
Damn Walmart for being successful under capitalism.

Neither is the case. The case was stated plainly. You can't respond to the real issue - selling out America for profit.
Since you can't address that with a straight face and come out smelling of roses, you lie about what the argument is and argue a strawman. You get a time out for deciet. Bye.


49 posted on 05/03/2006 7:53:35 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: USS Alaska

How can any rational person hate a system that employs millions of people and then complain that they destroy lives.

Response: "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics"

Every company is in business to make money. Every gun is made to be fired. So by your logic, murder doesn't exist because, hey, that gun was made to be fired. You can't punish someone for putting that gun to it's proper use.. Oh, that's right, there's that thing called ethics.. of which patriotism is a part. I suppose that by your thinking, the Rosenburgs should have been acquited because, hey, they were in business to make money afterall. It doesn't matter by your logic how they do it so long as they make money..

You guys have no shame.


50 posted on 05/03/2006 7:58:47 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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