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New Poll: Americans Prefer House Approach on Immigration
U.S. Newswire ^ | 5-3-2006 | Steven Camarota

Posted on 05/03/2006 7:45:44 PM PDT by nckerr

WASHINGTON, May 3 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A new Zogby poll of likely voters, using neutral language (i.e., avoiding the words "amnesty" or "illegal alien"), finds that Americans prefer the House of Representatives' enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration. The poll was conducted for the Center for Immigration Studies. Complete results are on line at:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/2006poll.html.

-- On immigration generally, Americans want less, not more, immigration. Only 26 percent said immigrants were assimilating fine and that immigration should continue at current levels, compared to 67 percent who said immigration should be reduced so we can assimilate those already here.

-- While the Senate is considering various bills that would increase legal immigration from 1 million to 2 million a year, only 2 percent of Americans believe current immigration is too low. This was true for virtually every grouping in the survey by ethnicity, income, age, religion, region, party, or ideology.

-- When offered by itself, there is strong support for the House bill: 69 percent said it was a good or very good idea when told that it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement, while not increasing legal immigration; 27 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

-- Support for the House approach was widespread, with 81 percent of Republicans, 72 percent of independents, 57 percent of Democrats, and 53 percent of Hispanics saying it was good or very good idea.

-- When offered by itself, there is also some support for the Senate approach, though not as much as for the House bill: 42 percent said the Senate approach was a good or very good idea when told it would allow illegal immigrants to apply for legal status provided they met certain criteria, and it would significantly increase legal immigration and increase enforcement of immigration laws; 50 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

-- There were few groups in which a majority supported the Senate plan, even when presented by itself. Exceptions included Hispanics, 62 percent of whom said it was a good or very good idea, and the most liberal voters (progressives), 54 percent of whom approved of it.

-- When given three choices (House approach, Senate approach, or mass deportation), the public tends to reject both the Senate plan and mass deportations in favor of the House bill; 28 percent want the Senate plan, 12 percent want mass deportations, while 56 percent want the House approach.

-- But when given a choice between just the House and Senate approaches, without the choice of mass deportations, the public prefers the House approach 64 percent to 30 percent.

-- One reason the public does not like legalization is that they are skeptical of the need for illegal-immigrant labor. An overwhelming majority of 77 percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better; just 15 percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs.

-- Another reason the public does not like Senate proposals to legalize illegals and double legal immigration is that 73 percent said they had little or no confidence in the ability of the government to screen these additional applicants to weed out terrorists and criminals.

-- The public also does not accept the argument we have tried and failed to enforce the law: 71 percent felt that past enforcement efforts have been "grossly inadequate," while only 19 percent felt we had made a "real effort" to enforce our laws.

The Center for Immigration Studies is an independent, non-partisan research organization which examines and critiques the impact of immigration on the United States.

http://www.usnewswire.com/


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; hr4437; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrationpoll; immigrationreform; invasionusa; openborders; zogby
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To: sinkspur
Accumulations of evidence is used in prosecution everyday in the end if the jury buys that's enough.
81 posted on 05/03/2006 8:36:37 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

It wouldnt take that many to send the message. The illegals communicate well and the rumors would start spreading. The illegal issue didn't grow as fast until Bush started talking Guest Worker in the last few years. That is why they rushed the border. I say one percent of employers being prosecuted would do the trick.


82 posted on 05/03/2006 8:36:50 PM PDT by nckerr (Proud Christian Conservative Soldier)
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To: Borax Queen

oh....fancy finding you here!!! : )


83 posted on 05/03/2006 8:37:01 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nckerr

LOL


84 posted on 05/03/2006 8:38:07 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: MOgirl
After the border is sealed, and after the employers who (also) break our laws are prevented from doing so, after giving the illegals the opportunity to return to their true home: As many as refuse to go. There, I answered your question.

OK, the refusal rate is 100%. (Most people will not voluntarily commit themselves to live in abject poverty.)

OK, you now have 12,000,000 new prisoners on top of the existing 2,200,000 already in the prison system. Where do you propose to put them, and where do you propose to get the manpower to guard almost 6.5 times as many prisoners AND secure the border trace?

85 posted on 05/03/2006 8:38:48 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Where do you (a) propose to put them,..

From a visual perspective we have seen they live 50 to room. End of problem.

Congratulations, you have just solved everything.

86 posted on 05/03/2006 8:39:20 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: nckerr
A new Zogby poll of likely voters, using neutral language (i.e., avoiding the words "amnesty" or "illegal alien"), finds that Americans prefer the House of Representatives' enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration. The poll was conducted for the Center for Immigration Studies.

This can't be right. The Senate RINOs are doing yeoman's work on this issue, despite the simpleton voters who think they know best.

/sarc

87 posted on 05/03/2006 8:39:48 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Take a few asprins and get a good night sleep. You'll feel better in the morning.


88 posted on 05/03/2006 8:40:28 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

We don't have to put them anywhere except back in their country so they can get at the end of the line to do it legally. Give em a deportation hearing and vamanos.


89 posted on 05/03/2006 8:40:29 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: nckerr
I say one percent of employers being prosecuted would do the trick.

The law requires that the prosecution prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that the employer knowingly hired illegal aliens.

That is an effectively impossible standard to meet.

90 posted on 05/03/2006 8:40:31 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: sinkspur
They just arrested an owner last week, and that excuse didn't wash. These things can be prosecuted ,your not going to win them all but you'll get a lot and all you have to do convince these employers that it's no longer feasible.
91 posted on 05/03/2006 8:41:40 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: cabojoe
We don't have to put them anywhere except back in their country so they can get at the end of the line to do it legally. Give em a deportation hearing and vamanos.

The proposal under discussion is to make illegally being in the United States a felony. Felonies that do not have jail time attached are, quite simply, a bad joke.

I take it, then, that you do not support the proposal to make illegal presence in the United States a felony.

92 posted on 05/03/2006 8:41:59 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
..That is an effectively impossible standard to meet.

Uh, why don't we just give it a try.

93 posted on 05/03/2006 8:43:06 PM PDT by sangoo
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To: JoeSixPack1
From a visual perspective we have seen they live 50 to room. End of problem.

I thought the idea was to put an end to this sort of thing. Problem not ended.

94 posted on 05/03/2006 8:43:50 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

10,999,999 THERE!


95 posted on 05/03/2006 8:43:55 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: sangoo

Fine. Please prove, beyond reasonable doubt, your own state of mind.


97 posted on 05/03/2006 8:44:17 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
The law requires that the prosecution prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that the employer knowingly hired illegal aliens.

Yup, spending your days in court and paying attorneys to prove that you didn't knowingly hire illegals instead of running your business shouldn't deter anyone. That and having to rehire and train a new crop of illegals every time you were raided is a recipe for success.

98 posted on 05/03/2006 8:44:33 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: nicmarlo

Bump!


99 posted on 05/03/2006 8:45:38 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: sinkspur
Did you know that employers check against a Social Security number database that is likely to show that those 90 numbers are all valid? What is an employer to do after SS numbers check out?

Do you know an employer can be sued for refusing to hire someone because he suspects they are illegal, especially if they turn out not to be?

...excerpted from "Excuses to Tell the Feds When You Are Caught Hiring Illegals"

100 posted on 05/03/2006 8:45:47 PM PDT by Junior_G
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