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CIA Director Goss Resigns after Non-Stop INTERNAL CIA ATTACKS by Democrat Plants
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Posted on 05/05/2006 12:19:03 PM PDT by woodb01

Goss Resignation is a frightening sign

Porter Goss was brought into the CIA to try to reform the organization. Mr. Goss was expected to bring about badly needed changes in the U.S. spy organization that is increasingly at the center of so many controversies. However, Goss never had a chance.

Rarely reported by the very biased media, much of the CIA and the U.S. Justice Department was "cleared out" during the Clinton Administration. Many of the key legal organizations responsible for America's security and stability were then staffed by Hillary Clinton handpicked staffers. Some of them hired from the outside, some promoted from within. (Hillary and her Secret War - How the Clintons have forever corrupted the Whitehouse)

The Whitehouse announcement of Mr. Goss's resignation, a man known as a reformer, is more of an indication of the inside resistance to making the CIA actually accountable to America.

In the last 2 years, the only information leaked to the media is consistently anti-Bush, and anti-Republican. The biased media, the Democratic Party, and the CIA almost appear to be coordinating their own special, covert operation to attack Bush, the Republican Party, and America. The CIA is so clearly an extension of the Democratic Party, and is so fully engaged in overt acts of Treason that it is time for a Justice Department investigation and some LONG prison sentences.

Over the past several months, as much of official Washington looked on wide-eyed and agog, many in the CIA bureaucracy have waged an unabashed effort to undermine the current administration.

At the height of the campaign, CIA officials, who are supposed to serve the president and stay out of politics and policy, served up leak after leak to discredit the president's Iraq policy. There were leaks of prewar intelligence estimates, leaks of interagency memos. In mid-September, somebody leaked a CIA report predicting a gloomy or apocalyptic future for the region.

White House officials concluded that they could no longer share important arguments and information with intelligence officials. They had to parse every syllable in internal e-mail. One White House official says it felt as if the CIA had turned over its internal wastebaskets and fed every shred of paper to the press.

The White House-CIA relationship became dysfunctional, and while the blame was certainly not all on one side, Langley was engaged in slow-motion, brazen insubordination, which violated all standards of honorable public service. It was also incredibly stupid, since CIA officials were betting their agency on a Kerry victory.

At the height of the campaign, the CIA permitted an analyst - who, we now know, is Michael Scheuer - to publish anonymously a book called "Imperial Hubris," which attacked Bush policy. Here was an official on the president's payroll publicly campaigning against his boss. As Scheuer told The Washington Post this week, "As long as the book was being used to bash the president, they - the CIA honchos - gave me carte blanche to talk to the media." (Bush must clamp down on CIA officials who subvert his policies)

Sadly however, there will never be a Justice Department investigation into the Democrat / Clinton Corruption of the Central Intelligence Agency. The Justice Department is filled with Clinton chosen Lawyers as well. So we have Treason in the media, Treason in the CIA, and Treason in the Democratic Party.

Is it any wonder that Porter Goss is resigning? My only surprise is that he lasted as long as he did.

Thank you Porter for your service to this country, and I am sincerely saddened that those such as you, who wish to protect this country, are routinely run out by politicos who have now infested every level and layer of our country. It is a sad day indeed.

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To: onyx

They should bring Newt Gingrich in as the "hatchet man"

That guy's good enough he could use every firing for political advantage to take more Congressional seats...


51 posted on 05/05/2006 2:02:16 PM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: woodb01
Thank you Porter for your service to this country, and I am sincerely saddened that those such as you, who wish to protect this country, are routinely run out by politicos who have now infested every level and layer of our country. It is a sad day indeed.

Perhaps it will give Goss an opportunity to go public with what he found there. Name and all.

52 posted on 05/05/2006 2:06:52 PM PDT by Ditto (People who fail to secure jobs as fence posts go into journalism.)
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To: glorgau
"All this whining about Clinton operatives in the various organs of the government. The Bush administration is going on it's 5th year and has ample opportunity to clean house. They should just just get on with it. The usual suspects will spew their hate and lies, but so what?"

Not quite:

Insight on the News: Hey, Orkin Man! - political appointees becoming part of the bureaucracy

http://www.looksmartbonds.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_39_16/ai_66356292

“Between October 1998 and June of this year, 57 people appointed to their high positions by the White House, usually because of their ideological affinity with the president, underwent sudden, seemingly miraculous, transformations into professional civil servants, according to a General Accounting Office (GAO) study. Although not unknown during other administration changeovers, the practice of “burrowing-in” is being watched closely by some on Capitol Hill who worry not only about whether it’s unfair to career civil servants and violates merit-system protections but whether the lingering presence of such moles might not leave an indelible ideological stamp on the supposedly nonpartisan machinery of government.”


53 posted on 05/05/2006 2:06:59 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: sittnick
I understand he is on good terms with a former director of the CIA, George the Elder.

Thats the problem.

They either have something really good on the Bush family or the Bush family just doesn't understand how to advance an agenda.

Leaving the CIA under a Klinton appointee after winning in 2000 is pretty much incomprehensible.

We are fighting an enemy abroad and an enemy within , that being the apparatchik Democrat appointees at CIA, State, and Justice/FBI.

That W to this very day is not doing something about this is astounding and extremely suspicious.

54 posted on 05/05/2006 2:08:33 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: woodb01


Excellent suggestion!


55 posted on 05/05/2006 2:08:41 PM PDT by onyx (They're ILLEGAL! --- tough, FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

I agree. Send him your resume! Quickly!


56 posted on 05/05/2006 2:08:51 PM PDT by Annie5622 (Democrats DO have a plan! They apparently plan to stay stupid.)
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To: sittnick

GHW Bush was director 30 years ago, and even at that was only director for less than two years. I doubt anyone he knew at the CIA is still employed there.


57 posted on 05/05/2006 2:12:16 PM PDT by Ditto (People who fail to secure jobs as fence posts go into journalism.)
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To: woodb01

OK, I'm having a critique Bush moment. I am guessing that Goss was encouraged to leave because Bush sometimes errs a bit to far in the direction of Dale Carnegie. Goss is not a Dale Caregie type of guy. Too bad he's leaving. The CIA does not need Dale Carnegie types right now. It needs Gen. Patton types.


58 posted on 05/05/2006 2:12:30 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: HardStarboard
This is a huge blow!! The fact that there is no sign that Bush attempted to talk him into staying and/or to help him in his fight to clean up the CIA is disturbing. This tells me that the leftists like Risen, Mary McCarthy and this former CIA McGovern character are really running the show. Bush is looking very compromised!

It is not a "huge" blow (for starters). And you have no idea what in the hell you are talking about!

Mr. Goss is a good man. He did well while Dir. Without a doubt.

But way too many on here are reaching way too far about facts and situations they know absolutely nothing about.

"Speculating" is fine....silly posts like yours above are just foolishness wrap in a ridiculous amount of self admiration about a situation in which you don't know 90% of the facts / details.

59 posted on 05/05/2006 2:14:13 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Paleo Conservative
I heard some time ago that some intelligence officers are withholding known information on Bin Laden's whereabouts because they know that a capture or kill of him would give Bush a boost. Goss was put in there not only to make changes internally but to change back the CIA to intelligence gathering and covert actions. If one looks at every Former CIA agent, they all have a book to write and they all claim the same thing, they knew where Bin Laden was but the higher ups didn't listen. I find this the biggest crock of crap I've ever heard because the military can now deploy air strikes in a matter of minutes after notification and I have never heard any "higher up" claim they didn't want Bin Laden.
60 posted on 05/05/2006 2:16:40 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: woodb01
I wonder if this Ray McGovern, a former CIA analyst and noted critic of the war in Iraq was a Clintonista? He is the one who recently confronted Donald Rumsfeld at a speech in Atlanta with a series of questions and comments:

“Why did you lie to get us into a war that caused these kind of casualties and was not necessary?”

He went on to say that the United States went to war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration “neocons” so “the United States and Israel could dominate that part of the world.” He also said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
61 posted on 05/05/2006 2:22:23 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: tobyhill; Argus; woodb01; rmlew
I heard some time ago that some intelligence officers are withholding known information on Bin Laden's whereabouts because they know that a capture or kill of him would give Bush a boost. Goss was put in there not only to make changes internally but to change back the CIA to intelligence gathering and covert actions.

I have my doubts about this theory, but if true it shows not only unprofessionalism in the CIA but also a lack of instincts for self-preservation. Sure we now know United flight 93 was intended to hit the Capitol, but it just as easily could have been headed to Langley. If I were in the CIA, I'd be worried about finding and killing Al Qaeda before they kill me.

62 posted on 05/05/2006 2:30:44 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
I actually believe they know exactly where Bin Laden, Zawahiri and Zarqawi is. The CIA is no longer nonpartisan, any of it, and would rather self-destruct than give this administration any credit or even useful information. That I'm convinced.
63 posted on 05/05/2006 2:44:02 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

Maybe instead of last minute pardons, before he leaves office Bush can have a last minute massacre -- fire everyone in the administrative branch suspected of unamerican activity. Won't happen, but I can dream.


64 posted on 05/05/2006 2:49:07 PM PDT by Flavius Josephus (Nationalism is not a crime.)
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To: cgbg

The treasonous left calls the Republicans the "pugs." I would call them that too, as a compliment, meaning "pugnacious" if they would just bloody well fight for something.


65 posted on 05/05/2006 2:51:13 PM PDT by Flavius Josephus (Nationalism is not a crime.)
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To: woodb01
Thank you Porter for your service to this country,

Yes. Thank you, Porter Goss.

66 posted on 05/05/2006 2:51:21 PM PDT by syriacus (WHERE has Geo. Clooney been for ALL the years that Franklin Graham has been helping the Sudanese?)
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Cnn trying to connect Goss with Cunningham via Foggo?


67 posted on 05/05/2006 3:06:36 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Argus

It's never too late.

And .. if Porter couldn't get the job done .. I expect the next guy will be even a worse hardnose. The dems need to be careful what they wish for.

Porter may have just been there to draw these people out by shaking the tree a little .. time will tell.


68 posted on 05/05/2006 3:07:12 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: SE Mom

what you said...bttt


69 posted on 05/05/2006 3:10:19 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: woodb01


In this instance, it is accurate to state:

BUSH`S FAULT !

The President should have cleaned out the FBI/CIA/State

Dept. in his first year !!!

Bush blew it.

Too little to late.


70 posted on 05/05/2006 3:29:50 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: DevSix
Please give us the benefit of your "90% of the facts".

The statement in my post "this tells me..." shows I was speculating. We were all speculating at that point - except for, possibly, you who seem to allude to inside info. Please show us that your self-admiration is not misplaced by sharing your "facts/details" with us, the unwashed.

I am listening to Frank Gaffney on Hugh Hewitt as I am writing you. He evidently thinks that Goss was promised access and latitude that was severely compromised by Negroponte's appointment and the imposition of another layer of bureaucracy between the DCI and the President.

I'd be interested in your reaction to that line of thinking.

71 posted on 05/05/2006 3:31:31 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Hey, march some more - its helping get the wall built!)
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To: virginiaspook

I too am saddened to see Mr. Goss leaving. There is a butt..
If the Clintons did the housecleaning, then by God, Bush needed to do the same--all of it, pack it on heavy, every nook and crannie and let the media have their weeks and months of scrambling stories. Think: if all discharges happened very quickly media would know which story to pursue first.
Since Bush hasn't done this but placed Arlen Spector, tried for Harriet Myers, is weak on immigration, spent more money than any government, and turned over ports to Dubai, then to Hutchison Whampoa you have to wonder about the "political capitol" he is spending and who is getting knifed.


72 posted on 05/05/2006 3:42:07 PM PDT by Redfeather
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To: PresidentFelon

From your lips to God's ears.


73 posted on 05/05/2006 3:50:10 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: jonrick46

McGovern is a CABALIST!


74 posted on 05/05/2006 3:52:23 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: virginiaspook

I hope it's something as simple as him running for Senate from FL. I tend not to believe, but at least I can hope!


75 posted on 05/05/2006 3:53:44 PM PDT by hotshu
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To: All
I think the only way to crush the MSM is to disrupt the MSM. If some democrats hollywood celebrity activist types are starting some big cause with lots of appearances, we have to be there. bring a bullhorn and ask questions. The MSM will be forced to
a) air us questioning their authority
or
b) not show the celebrity appearance, thus deflating it.
76 posted on 05/05/2006 3:55:30 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (do what now?)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

I should have read a bit further before replying to 15.

I hope you're right.


77 posted on 05/05/2006 3:55:45 PM PDT by hotshu
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To: woodb01

How about Tom Delay?


Hmmm?


78 posted on 05/05/2006 4:03:27 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (VPD of LCpl Smoothguy242, USMC, somewhere in Afghanistan's Kunar Province.)
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To: Ingtar

"When we change Presidents, it is customary for most top officials in these agencies to tender resigntations to make reorganization move more smoothly. Before Clinton, most were not accepted and the person remained in place. Clinton accepted them all... prosecutors, administrators, everyone. Then he filled the organizations with hand picked liberals. With his "new tone," President Bush did not accept many at all."

A) When will we ever learn? Liberals play for keeps and do *EVERYTHING* to gain,hold and maintain power and nothing is beneath their 'end-justifies-means' approach.

B) I doubt the liberals offered their resignations. Look at Frances Berry, the clod on the civil rights commision who stayed or tried to stay after her term was up, trying to force Bush administration to simply accept her running the commission long after Bush had a replacement! ... they had to pry her out of that position with a crowbar.

C) If the CIA needed house cleaning, and Goss was the man to do it, and Bush wanted it done, it should have been done by now. I'm with those who consider this excuse-making. It's year 5 of the Bush administration. Play hardball and get the treasonous vipers out of there. Period.


79 posted on 05/05/2006 4:04:07 PM PDT by WOSG (Faith & Reason)
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To: woodb01
I like Goss but there is way too much national intelligence being leaked to the media from Clinton CIA spooks.

Goss had 3 years and couldn't shut it down. Having spooks in the CIA trying to destroy the Presidency is unacceptable. And I don't care if it was a Democrat or Republican president they were trying to destroy, those people need to be tried for treason because they are trying to destroy MY country!
80 posted on 05/05/2006 4:22:21 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

He didn't have 3 years....he was only on the job 20 months.


81 posted on 05/05/2006 4:33:31 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere

Ooops! Thank you for the correction.


82 posted on 05/05/2006 4:39:55 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Publius6961

indeed, I don't see any silver lining possible in this. its bad news.


83 posted on 05/05/2006 4:50:39 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: CyberAnt

no one controversial will be appointed - because the confirmation hearings would give the Dems a forum to drag the administration through the mud regarding "intelligence failures".


84 posted on 05/05/2006 4:54:10 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

I don't agree!


85 posted on 05/05/2006 6:14:10 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Hmmm. This would work. Let's do it!


86 posted on 05/05/2006 6:40:09 PM PDT by doberville
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To: TheDon
Rarely reported by the very biased media, much of the CIA and the U.S. Justice Department was "cleared out" during the Clinton Administration.

I don't believe this. I think the problem is a lot deeper than that. The problem goes all the way back to Stansfield Turner when we purged all the old school folks out of the CIA and replaced them with satellites, and analysts recruited from the most liberal of academic institutions.

Turner is just one more grad from USNA that shames the rest of us.

87 posted on 05/05/2006 6:53:51 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Argus

The fact that it wasn't should be a 'red' flag

imo


88 posted on 05/05/2006 7:01:11 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: CyberAnt

You may be right. We've got Tony Snow replacing Scott McClellan. When we learn the name of Goss' replacement we'll know.


89 posted on 05/05/2006 7:11:12 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Everything I ever need to know about John McCain can't be mentioned 30 days prior to an election!)
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To: woodb01

There is a recent report that approx 25,000 people have left the CIA since Porter took over.

If it was 100,000 at the beginning, that leaves 75,000.

Maybe his job was nearly complete.

Again, we need confirmation on the number, but that is the latest.


90 posted on 05/05/2006 7:13:29 PM PDT by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: woodb01

Is there a way to clean house, legally? I thought it was illegal to just clean careerists out (not that that stop the Clintons)?


91 posted on 05/05/2006 7:25:53 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

The other thing, the CIA has been off since even before Clinton: they had no clue the USSR was so weak. They thought it would continue for decades. I do wonder about all of the problems, especially Michael Scheuer (sp?). Michael Savage had him on yesterday, IIRC. Did not have a clue who/what he was...


92 posted on 05/05/2006 7:41:33 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: woodb01
...July 22, 2001: Bush Administration completes purging of CIA "holdovers".

September 13, 2001: Bush impeached for gutting CIA just before 9/11 attacks.

93 posted on 05/05/2006 8:04:31 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: pbrown
Then Goss needs to step up to the plate and blow this thing out of the water. He needs to have a press conference and name names. Let the chips fall where they may. Clean out that rats nest once and for all.

He needs to help the Bush Admin get rid of this "shadow Government the DemonRATs have installed.

What'll happen to him if he does that...lose his job?

It is doubtful the Feds could take his pension away.

94 posted on 05/05/2006 8:08:06 PM PDT by p23185 (Being trashed by the Stone Age Press should be worn as a badge of honor by Repubs and Conservatives)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

Before Clintoon left office, he made "his" people in Justice and the CIA civil servants - since they were no longer political appointees, they are practically impossible to get rid of....


95 posted on 05/05/2006 8:14:34 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Sam Hill
In case you don't have this:  

Rolling Back Clinton  Time Magazine  1-22-01

Excerpt:

One morning at the nub end of Bill Clinton's presidency, Clinton chief of staff John Podesta walked into a senior staff meeting in the Roosevelt Room waving a copy of USA Today. Holding the paper aloft, Podesta read the headline out loud, "Clinton actions annoy Bush." The article detailed the new rules and Executive Orders the outgoing President was issuing in his final days, actions aimed in equal measure at locking in Clinton's legacy (in areas like environmental protection) and bedeviling his successor. "What's Bush so annoyed about?" Podesta asked with a devilish smile. "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done."

another quote from the article:

"We laid a few traps," chirps a happy Clinton aide.

96 posted on 05/05/2006 9:04:43 PM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: woodb01; potlatch
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97 posted on 05/05/2006 9:36:29 PM PDT by devolve ((----Kimberly Guilfoyle - bicoastal or another thespian?))
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To: windchime

No, I hadn't seen that. It's very revealing.

Thanks.


98 posted on 05/05/2006 9:49:03 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: pbrown

Republicans never name names. They prefer to be quiet and get punched in the press constantly.


99 posted on 05/05/2006 10:28:46 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Suzy Quzy
"McGovern is a CABALIST!

I agree. These conspiritors are doing major damage to this country. I am hoping President Bush replaces Goss with someone who will continue the house cleaning.

100 posted on 05/05/2006 10:33:51 PM PDT by jonrick46
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