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10-Year-Old Prohibited From Singing Anti-Bush Song
http://news.yahoo.com/s/wplg/20060505/lo_wplg/3448437 ^

Posted on 05/05/2006 1:23:42 PM PDT by gwb43_2004

A 10-year-old girl was barred from singing a President George W. Bush-bashing ballad at her elementary school talent show because her principal deemed the song inappropriate and too political.

"Dear Mr. President," performed and co-written by pop star Pink, criticizes Bush for the war in Iraq and policies including his stance on gay rights. Nancy Shoul said her daughter Molly should be lauded for choosing lyrics that are full of substance and that the ban violates her daughter's right to free speech.

"If this was a student singing a pro-administration song, no one would quibble with it," Shoul said Thursday. "The principal is just running scared and doesn't want to upset any parents."

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KEYWORDS: 2wordshomeschool; antibush; bush; pink
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1 posted on 05/05/2006 1:23:45 PM PDT by gwb43_2004
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To: gwb43_2004

A school is not a democracy.


2 posted on 05/05/2006 1:24:25 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: gwb43_2004
"If this was a student singing a pro-administration song, no one would quibble with it," Shoul said Thursday.

I kinda doubt that.

3 posted on 05/05/2006 1:25:15 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: gwb43_2004

Already posted

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1627318/posts


4 posted on 05/05/2006 1:26:11 PM PDT by BradtotheBone
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To: gwb43_2004
Nancy Shoul said her daughter Molly should be lauded for choosing lyrics that are full of substance

Her mother should have her ambien revoked for telling her daughter that a dopey Pink song is “full of substance.”

5 posted on 05/05/2006 1:26:27 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: sinkspur

I would disagree, I would say a public school is meant to have some semblance of democracy, which is exactly why I chose to keep my children out of them. Besides, the whole schoolyard justice element should have been allowed to play out. If the kids at the school didn't like what she was saying, she woulda heard about it, cause that's what happens in public school in America these days


6 posted on 05/05/2006 1:26:44 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: gwb43_2004

One wonders at a parent who would do this to their child. If a person asked the child for the basis of their opinion, the child would be clueless and wouldn't know a thing, other than mouthing what mommy said. Terrible parent.


7 posted on 05/05/2006 1:27:42 PM PDT by Paddlefish ("The secret to happiness is short-term, stupid self-interest!"-Calvin)
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To: Junior_G

I agree. But if it was a pro-administration song I daresay people here would be much more upset. I say it's sad that kids that young are getting involved in politics but she should be allowed to sing it (provided it's not obscene... anyone here heard it?)


8 posted on 05/05/2006 1:27:49 PM PDT by bigLusr (Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur)
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To: dead; gwb43_2004

I have to agree with you, dead. The mother is also dating herself if she thinks that antiestablishment crap is still new! What a stupid hick.


9 posted on 05/05/2006 1:29:07 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: gwb43_2004

One comment only: Child abuse...


10 posted on 05/05/2006 1:29:17 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Paddlefish

Agreed the real problem is that a 10 year old is making a political statement. Clearly brainwashed and has no idea what she is saying.


11 posted on 05/05/2006 1:29:28 PM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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To: gwb43_2004

What a shame this nit of a mother doesn't understand that free speech 'rights' aren't guaranteed to a child, but to adults.


12 posted on 05/05/2006 1:30:09 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: gwb43_2004

If the kid and her parents want an audience, let them rent out a hall. The kid thought it was "cool". No idea if the lyrics wee true or not, but it was "cool".

Stick with the reading writing and arithmetic.


13 posted on 05/05/2006 1:31:21 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron
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To: gwb43_2004
When my daughter was in the second grade she wanted to sing Spears' 'Hit me Baby One More Time'

They made her change the lyrics to 'smile baby one more time'. I'd have pulled her if it wasn't going to break her heart.

She' now 16 and I'm glad I let her perform.

14 posted on 05/05/2006 1:31:38 PM PDT by steveo (Fathers Against Rude Television: You may already be a member)
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To: gwb43_2004
Methinks the whiney woman would have first to file a lawsuit if some ten year old had song a negative song about Bubba when he was in office.

Come to think about it, I don't recall a similar story during Clinton's years.......

15 posted on 05/05/2006 1:31:45 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: sinkspur

""If this was a student singing a pro-administration song, no one would quibble with it,""


Uh, yeah, right : )


16 posted on 05/05/2006 1:32:22 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: gwb43_2004

This story will likely get a lot of play in the MSM.


17 posted on 05/05/2006 1:34:02 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Paddlefish
Terrible parent.

The world is full of them my dear Paddlefish.

It is up to us to raise our children to be strong leaders so they can lead these lemmings like the one that Mrs. Nancy Shoul is raising.

18 posted on 05/05/2006 1:34:17 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I can't complain...but sometimes I still do.)
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To: gwb43_2004
"If this was a student singing a pro-administration song, no one would quibble with it," Shoul said Thursday.

Bull butter and horse feathers!
How many hundred times have have heard about kids, teachers, and parents bashing the President on school property? Then one principal deems one little Bush-bash song too political and her doofus mother gets her nighty in a knot. Give me a break.

19 posted on 05/05/2006 1:34:38 PM PDT by ConservativeBamaFan (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than Dick Cheney's quail gun.)
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To: gwb43_2004
Nancy Shoul said her daughter Molly should be lauded....

The Shhhhoooooouuuuullllllll Train.....

We'll be right back with the song, after this message from Sulfur8....


20 posted on 05/05/2006 1:35:00 PM PDT by edpc
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To: Froufrou
“Full of substance,” according to the nitwit mother in the story:

Dear Mr. President
Were you a lonely boy
Are you a lonely boy
Are you a lonely boy
How can you say
No child is left behind
We're not dumb and we're not blind
They're all sitting in your cells
While you pave the road to hell

What kind of father would take his own daughter's rights away
And what kind of father might hate his own daughter if she were gay
I can only imagine what the first lady has to say
You've come a long way from whiskey and cocaine

She probably thinks Shakespeare is the guy who invented fishing.

21 posted on 05/05/2006 1:36:57 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Junior_G

Well, it was a talent show and the proper way to handle it would be to nix it for the lack of talent [thus for having nothing to show], in content and in delivery.


22 posted on 05/05/2006 1:46:15 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: gwb43_2004
10-Year-Old Prohibited From Singing Anti-Bush Song

Good. This kid's (teacher) mother should know better.

23 posted on 05/05/2006 1:53:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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To: gwb43_2004

No dought the words are the childs mothers. When she is 21 she can voice her own words.


24 posted on 05/05/2006 1:53:48 PM PDT by zipp_city
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To: gwb43_2004

As if a 10 year old understood the meaning of the song. I doubt, as with any song, that any of her little classmates understand any of it either, nor even know 95% of the words outside the chorus. I say let her sing it. It's more likely the principal was more worried about parents twisting it around and getting in an uproar. That said, I'm also betting it was mommy dearest who suggested the song.

If she were older, you can bet she'd hear about it from her classmates. A know-it-all twerp wrote an editorial (taking the opposite side from someone, cough, whom he wanted to get back at) in the middle school newspaper here and you wouldn't believe how quickly the students put him in his place. Kids aren't dumb. Once they're old enough, they know what's what in the world and will stand up for what's right.


25 posted on 05/05/2006 1:53:50 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: dead; All

Sorry to the posters who think this is appropriate. After reading the lyrics, no way should a 10 year old sing this in a school sponosored activity.

It is a hateful, disrespectful ad-hominem attack on the President. "...whiskey and cocaine..." indeed.

If it were something along the lines of "you have made the wrong choices" or "as an American I expect something different" maybe, but "pave the road to Hell"?

If I said Hell at the age of 10, my mom or dad would have smacked me on the cheek and told me to watch my language.


26 posted on 05/05/2006 1:54:15 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: dead

By the way, thanks for posting the lyrics, Dead.


27 posted on 05/05/2006 1:55:15 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: BradtotheBone

well there were no keywords


28 posted on 05/05/2006 1:55:45 PM PDT by gwb43_2004 (I love W)
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To: gwb43_2004
Nancy Shoul said her daughter Molly should be lauded for choosing lyrics that are full of substance and that the ban violates her daughter's right to free speech.

Hello, buy a clue.

Your daughter does not have a right to free speech. Only adults do and it is limited.

29 posted on 05/05/2006 1:59:27 PM PDT by JZoback ("There's a pony in here somewhere")
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To: gwb43_2004

Gee whiz. This girl is 10 years old and she already knows all.

I didn't know everything until I was at least 17.

And as far as my first amendment rats those many years ago in our grade, junior or senior high schools,

Forget it.


30 posted on 05/05/2006 2:00:27 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: JZoback

Yes and a little girl singing about liquor and illegal drugs


31 posted on 05/05/2006 2:00:53 PM PDT by gwb43_2004 (I love W)
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To: gwb43_2004
The CD from which the song comes from comes with a parental advisory warning of explicit lyrics.

While free speech is extremely important in a free society, our right to free speech does not guarantee us the right to a captive audience of other people's children who are being required to be there by law.

The lyrics are written for shock value rather than to inform.

The lyrics also attack using innuendo rather than facts.

If the young girl wants to take a political position, she should be encouraged to learn more about the facts of these topics and about how our system of government operates. Some of that may be beyond the capabilities of most ten year olds to really comprehend.

If she can't understand the issues the song is talking about, then she isn't exercising her free speech, she's be used as a pawn by others.

32 posted on 05/05/2006 2:01:20 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: gwb43_2004

This girls mother is a complete wench. How can you train your little kid to hate so early? She belongs in the middle east with the rest of them.


33 posted on 05/05/2006 2:01:36 PM PDT by vpintheak (What's worse, a liberal, or a know it all posing as a Conservative?)
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To: untrained skeptic

Right on .
As if this little girl knows politics drugs and other things.
Why can't she be like the other kids and sing twinkle twinkle little star


34 posted on 05/05/2006 2:04:01 PM PDT by gwb43_2004 (I love W)
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To: gwb43_2004
If this was a student singing a pro-administration song, no one would quibble with it...

"pro-admin" song? Nothing at Amazon.

35 posted on 05/05/2006 2:05:19 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: gwb43_2004
This is a fifth-grade student that wants to perform a song filled with lyrics about drug use, war, abortion, gay rights and profanity," district spokeswoman Nadine Drew said Thursday. "This is an elementary school that includes kindergartners and pre-K students." The song does not mention abortion, and the profanity is the word "hell."

So the song DOES mention drug use, war, gay rights, and profanity, even if the profanity is a little weak by modern standards. The principal is within her rights to bar the song from the presentation simply for the drugs and homosexuality, as far as I'm concerned. If this student wants to express her First Amemdment rights outside the classroom, get a website at myspace.com, write a newsletter, or stand outside her house and shout to the moon.

36 posted on 05/05/2006 2:09:53 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: gwb43_2004

The state of Florida needs to check out this dippy mother who lets her child listen to pornographic music and repeat cuss words from songs, etc. Might be child abuse here and mom needs to get set straight on what being a parent really means. Probably just another dimwit lib who doesn't have the sense God gave a day old chicken! Good on the school principal for telling the child "no". I'll bet that is the 1st time the little girl ever heard no from a grownup, as it is obvious mom isn't an adult, or certainly doesn't know how to be one.


37 posted on 05/05/2006 2:16:30 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: geezerwheezer

If my father catches me listening to Pink or any other weirdo he will throw me out of the house.


38 posted on 05/05/2006 2:20:01 PM PDT by gwb43_2004 (I love W)
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To: sinkspur

"A school is not a democracy."

I agree. In CA schools are considered a business and, as such, are listed in the phone book under the business section.


39 posted on 05/05/2006 2:28:00 PM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: gwb43_2004

He won't throw you out, maybe just a strong "one way discussion" will do. (That's how I handled my children when I had to!) :0 )


40 posted on 05/05/2006 2:31:00 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: dead
She probably thinks Shakespeare is the guy who invented fishing.

That's just silly. Everyone knows Abu Garcia invented fishing.

41 posted on 05/05/2006 2:31:19 PM PDT by edpc
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To: gwb43_2004

It's obvious to anyone with a brain that Nancy was the one who "chose" the song. What 10-year-old would be political on their own?


42 posted on 05/05/2006 2:34:38 PM PDT by flada (Posting in a manner reminiscent of Jen-gis Kahn.)
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To: gwb43_2004
Bums are born....not made........

The Clintons prove that no amount of higher education can cure or avoid a natural born bum!

43 posted on 05/05/2006 2:43:03 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I'm a proud GRINGO......is Bill Clinton still the president?...Seems that way!)
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To: edpc

LOL, Old English 800 has got the POWWWWWER!


44 posted on 05/05/2006 2:43:09 PM PDT by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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To: edpc

Exactly, Jerry's great uncle.


45 posted on 05/05/2006 2:44:11 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: gwb43_2004

"Nancy Shoul said her daughter Molly should be lauded for choosing lyrics that are full of substance and that the ban violates her daughter's right to free speech."

BS. School is (or used to be) a place to learn. She can exercise her "right to free speech" after hours - get her a frickin' cabbage crate and take her downtown to exercise her right on a streetcorner like the loonies in front of the Alamo used to.


46 posted on 05/05/2006 2:44:25 PM PDT by Felis_irritable
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To: Junior_G

"If this was a student singing a pro-administration song, no one would quibble with it," Shoul said Thursday."

"I kinda doubt that."

Well, we know for starts that had the child sung a pro-Administration song, Mama Shoul would have quibbled.


47 posted on 05/05/2006 2:46:57 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: dead

this mother probably thinks the National Anthem is pro-Bush and too provacative.


48 posted on 05/05/2006 3:03:37 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (lead ,follow or get out of the majority.start with our borders.)
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To: geezerwheezer

I heard the mother is a teacher.


49 posted on 05/05/2006 3:11:57 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: goodnesswins

I had a hunch so I tracked down Pinks, I'm not dead yet

CD cover ( which contains dear Mr. President)

it included the parental advisory label as expected ...

it doesn't seem fit for a 10 year old


50 posted on 05/05/2006 3:26:30 PM PDT by daku ("Behold this creature that walks like a man. It wants ketchup on its hot dog.")
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