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Gay skaters sue Berkeley rink for discrimination
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| 5/5/6
Posted on 05/05/2006 4:28:04 PM PDT by SmithL
BERKELEY, Calif. - Two gay figure skaters sued the Berkeley ice rink for discrimination after twice being told to stop holding hands while skating.
Alan Lessik and John Manzon-Santosin sued in Alameda County Superior Court last month accusing the manager of Berkeley Iceland of unlawful and discriminatory business practices by denying them their right to skate as a pair.
The manager, Monte Tiedemann, twice told the pair to stop holding hands during their preparations for Gay Games VII at the Berkeley arena. The pair, who met at the Sydney Gay Games in 2002, said they have not encountered similar admonitions at two other Bay Area ice rinks.
"We were publicly humiliated by having this happen to us, and we feel absolutely clear that Monte has a problem with gay skaters," Lessik said.
Iceland's management said the pair were barred from holding hands for safety reasons.
"There is no homophobia going on at Berkeley Iceland," company official Jay Westcott said. "It's even a little bit insulting because we've had people of various sexual orientations who have worked for us, coached for us and skated for us."
The lawsuit demands an apology and a requirement that the Iceland manager undergo sensitivity training.
The two sides will attempt to settle the dispute Tuesday during a mediation meeting, said attorney Amy Todd, who represents the pair on behalf of the National Center for Lesbian Rights' Homophobia in Sports Project.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: barf; beserkely; deviants; gayblades; homosexualagdena; homosexualagenda; iceskating; perverts; sickos; yuck
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I think they're the ones on thin ice.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:28:07 PM PDT
by
SmithL
Comment #2 Removed by Moderator
To: SmithL
They can't hold hands, but what about a crotch lift?
3
posted on
05/05/2006 4:31:54 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Psalms of the Day: 39-43)
To: SmithL
Gay male skaters......
I've never heard of such nonsense.
4
posted on
05/05/2006 4:32:43 PM PDT
by
edpc
To: SmithL
Two gay figure skaters Isn't that a little redundant?
5
posted on
05/05/2006 4:32:49 PM PDT
by
neodad
(USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
To: SmithL
"Gay male figure skaters" is multiply redundant.
6
posted on
05/05/2006 4:33:30 PM PDT
by
RichInOC
(I always thought male figure skaters were medium-weight in the loafers at best. Didn't you?)
To: SmithL
Yup. All male Figure Skaters are gay. Have told my wife this a number of times. She doesn't believe me. She is a big fan of Figure Skating.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:33:35 PM PDT
by
dhs12345
To: SmithL
Iceland's management said the pair were barred from holding hands for safety reasons. The safety issues are not clear to me, but if they do not let anyone hold hands, then it is not discrimination.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:34:09 PM PDT
by
Michael.SF.
("Cynicism, is an unpleasant way of telling the truth" -- Lillian Hellman)
To: SmithL
Flamers on ice or just gay blades?
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:34:28 PM PDT
by
Mr. Jazzy
(VPD of LCpl Smoothguy242, USMC, somewhere in Afghanistan's Kunar Province.)
To: SmithL
I'm SHOCKED! Shocked I tell ya!!!
To: SmithL
Alan Lessik and John Manzon-Santosin
Bet one of them is only 12 years old too.
To: SmithL
It's cold in the rink. They should just go home, relax, and share a nice bowl of soup.
12
posted on
05/05/2006 4:36:26 PM PDT
by
edpc
To: socal_parrot
LOL.
Hey, tooty-fruity-Rudy.
My wife is a fan and insists that I be in the same room while she is watching the competitions. Makes it easier for me to come up with nick names.
Then there is Brian Girl-tano.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:36:40 PM PDT
by
dhs12345
To: Alouette
They can't hold hands, but what about a crotch lift? I can see why she would be smiling, but trying that on a guy would have to really hurt.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:38:10 PM PDT
by
Michael.SF.
("Cynicism, is an unpleasant way of telling the truth" -- Lillian Hellman)
To: Michael.SF.
trying that on a guy would have to really hurt. Well, they are skating pairs, so one of them has to be the liftee.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:40:18 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Psalms of the Day: 39-43)
To: SmithL
I always look forward to The Gay Games. The Fisting Competition can't be beat. Ben Dover is competing this year.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:40:24 PM PDT
by
Free ThinkerNY
((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
To: SmithL
I'd think straight skaters could sue for minority discrimination if any one could.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:40:34 PM PDT
by
llevrok
(sui generis)
To: SmithL
BERKELEY?... The Commie heaven?.. Pulleeese..
Moonbat Central is indeed filled with guano..
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:41:05 PM PDT
by
hosepipe
(This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
To: SmithL
National Center for Lesbian Rights' Homophobia in Sports Project Ah ha but was it The "Disabled Hispanic Illegal Alien Center for Lesbian Rights Homophobia in Sports and Immigrant Midnight Border Crossings" chapter...that complained?
Get them to file and we can get some federal action on this pressing problem...stat!
To: SmithL
This from California and Berkeley no less.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:44:28 PM PDT
by
mtbopfuyn
(I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
To: Free ThinkerNY; stylecouncilor
To: dhs12345
Yup. All male Figure Skaters are gay. Have told my wife this a number of times. She doesn't believe me. She is a big fan of Figure Skating. I like to watch figure skating too but you are right, the men are homo. Many times their partner is their sister, They are probably thinking, "if I have to touch a woman, it will be my sis".
Bugs Bunny is as queer as a 3 dollar bill too. How many times have we seen him plant a big ole kiss right on Elmer Fudd's mouth?
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:46:43 PM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: SmithL
Gay skaters?
Bezerkley?
What's going on?
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:46:50 PM PDT
by
onyx
(They're ILLEGAL! --- tough, FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
To: Mr. Jazzy
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:47:13 PM PDT
by
onyx
(They're ILLEGAL! --- tough, FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
To: SmithL
I think they should change this to "fagure skating".
Comment #26 Removed by Moderator
To: Free ThinkerNY
The Gay Games. The Fisting Competition Sponsored by:
And then there is the EXTREME Gay Games, sponsored by:
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:51:40 PM PDT
by
Michael.SF.
("Cynicism, is an unpleasant way of telling the truth" -- Lillian Hellman)
To: dhs12345
She thinks Liberachi is straight, too, I bet...
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:53:41 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Hillary!™ would have been a big astronaut. Say that slowly)
To: socal_parrot
Home town boy makes, uh, good...
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:55:15 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Hillary!™ would have been a big astronaut. Say that slowly)
To: Alouette
And boy would I like to be her lift-er!
To: socal_parrot
If your picture wasn't bad enough....
The song for this program was Some Day My Prince Will Come......I'm not kidding.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:57:32 PM PDT
by
edpc
To: Graybeard58
Yup. And they are pretty flaming about it too. Gee, this is scary -- I know more than I care to admit about figure skating.
I have been "forced" to watch many a skating event and know pretty much everything there is to know.
Even, been to a Stars on Ice with my wife. Anything to make the better half happy.
But, but... bugs is my hero. And he is always dressing up in women's clothing. Tsk. Tsk.
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posted on
05/05/2006 4:58:44 PM PDT
by
dhs12345
To: SmithL
Gay Games VIIMy stomach turns when I even think about what the list of events might include.....
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posted on
05/05/2006 5:00:41 PM PDT
by
Onelifetogive
(Freerepublic - The website where "Freepers" is not in the spell checker dictionary...)
To: Alouette
"They can't hold hands, but what about a crotch lift? "
Bowling grip!
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posted on
05/05/2006 5:01:11 PM PDT
by
lawdude
(Liberalism is a mental illness!)
To: null and void
LOL. Probably. Any guy that concerned about his clothing is well beyond metrosexual. Will ask her.
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posted on
05/05/2006 5:01:59 PM PDT
by
dhs12345
To: dhs12345
Scott Hamilton is straight.
To: Michael.SF.
I can't stand to watch the Extreme Gay games. Although, I can't resist watching them play "Hide the Gerbil."
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posted on
05/05/2006 5:04:26 PM PDT
by
Free ThinkerNY
((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
To: SmithL
Great. Now we have gay sssssskaters.
To: SmithL
In Berkeley? I'm shocked!!! Simply SHOCKED!!!
I'd have thought they would have given them the spotlight and then maybe a cozy little room to unwind after their skating adventure.
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posted on
05/05/2006 5:06:41 PM PDT
by
Ronin
(Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est)
To: SmithL
Homophobia in Berkeley??? Who would of thought...
To: edpc
and I was just eating soup myself, when I saw your post. Now there's little bits of soup everywhere, although it was not the same kind of soup as you posted!!!!
To: edpc
Ugh!
A disgrace to a fine military uniform.
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posted on
05/05/2006 5:18:50 PM PDT
by
RandallFlagg
(Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
To: GSWarrior
and my wife & I have never, never seen him take a fall....all time great & class act.
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posted on
05/05/2006 5:24:56 PM PDT
by
Seeking the truth
(0cents.com - Freep Stuff & Pajama Patrol Stuff)
To: SmithL
Real men ain't figure skaters . . .
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posted on
05/05/2006 5:49:10 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
(Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
To: SmithL
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posted on
05/05/2006 5:51:01 PM PDT
by
Disambiguator
(Unfettered gun ownership is the highest expression of civil rights.)
To: Graybeard58
Okay, somebody has to defend Bugs. He's not queer. I point to several cartoons where:
1. He heterosexually harassed (in old lingo, came onto) a mechanical 'girl' rabbit lure on the greyhound racetrack.
2. He was wooing Daisy bunny away from a big ol' lump of another bunny.
3. Many times would see a good looking woman and give a hoot or a howl (and then promptly lose his eyeballs on the floor, or pick up a jaw on the floor).
Bugs kissed other male characters to make them embarrassed and angry. Definite hetero bunny there.
Okay, I feel Bugs has been vindicated here. :)
To: Secret Agent Man
How about the drag queen costumes?
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posted on
05/05/2006 6:10:07 PM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: Graybeard58
Hey, even Wesley Snipes has worn a dress. Same with Kurt Russell too. You calling them queer? :)
I go back again to the defense that he wore the stuff to wind up embarrassing the antagonist guy who winds up 'falling' for his character in drag.
In short: NOT QUEER!!!! :)
To: lawdude
Three finger ball or two?
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posted on
05/06/2006 12:21:16 AM PDT
by
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The lawsuit demands an apology and a requirement that the Iceland manager undergo sensitivity training.
ROTFLMAO
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posted on
05/06/2006 1:10:10 PM PDT
by
DBeers
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