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The enemy reads bleeding heart liberals and self-destructive Democrats and weak-kneed EU authorities better than we read the enemy.

Cannot all of us see the underlying potential truth in this man's comments, unpleasant as they may be to our dignity?

Does not the illegal immigrant growth and pressure - here in the USA and in Europe - and the greater reproduction rate that swells their ranks not clearly indicate the danger of leaving Islam alone and appeasing or negotiating?

Will only react in a few decades when Americans getting off an aircraft in Europe have to wear Moslem attire or even Burkhas? Or in Canada? Or in some of our own cities and regions?

Wake up world! Smell the danger and DO something about it, instead of stirring the silt in the cesspools that grow and fester among and around us.

Moslems can be great people individually but Islam is not a religion, it is a political "ism" just like fascism.

1 posted on 05/06/2006 10:35:41 AM PDT by FARS
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2 posted on 05/06/2006 10:37:32 AM PDT by FARS (OK)
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Looks like you copied this from someplace. Why no link?


3 posted on 05/06/2006 10:38:12 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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And that's why our forefathers decided to give Americans the Second Amendment. WE would then become the "insurgents" and "freedom fighters" and the so-called "media" in this country might even decide to like us.


4 posted on 05/06/2006 10:39:38 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Remember the Alamo!)
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To: FARS

Did he mention the rising number of Christian converts in Islamic countries?


5 posted on 05/06/2006 10:40:59 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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Raving lunatic bump
6 posted on 05/06/2006 10:43:10 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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"Islam is making steady progress in America," Al-Omar said. "Twenty-five thousand people have converted to Islam every year since 9-11, and an even larger figure was mentioned in the New York Times."

Islamofascists giving props to their fishwrap of choice.

8 posted on 05/06/2006 10:47:57 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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"Whoever is familiar with the Sunna and the Hadith knows that a battle against the enemies of Allah awaits on the horizon, in which the Muslims will be victorious. This is confirmed by the reliable hadiths, as well as by reality."

Whoever is familiar with Daisy Cutters and Hydrogen Bombs knows that the laws of physics firmly favor the "Infidels."

9 posted on 05/06/2006 10:48:31 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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"Cannot all of us see the underlying potential truth in this man's comments, unpleasant as they may be to our dignity?"

People are stupid and blind in this country, concerned only about their own self. As all empires through out history that fell into lazyness and moral bankruptcy, The USA, western civilization as we know it will fall, conquered by the same evil enemy that has been attacking it for the past 1400 years. The sad thing about it, is that it's being done with the aid of our own people. The enemy only has to wait and pick up the pieces.

12 posted on 05/06/2006 10:50:48 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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"Islam is making steady progress in America," Al-Omar said. "Twenty-five thousand people have converted to Islam every year since 9-11, and an even larger figure was mentioned in the New York Times."

Of course more than that were killed by car accidents,
more by garage doors, more by swimming pools......

Young and old, men and women - everyone is talking about jihad."

Let's see where have I heard this before? Oh yes.....

"The SS and the SA are what everyone loves today,
they are the most beautiful thing in the world!!!"

Hmmmmmmmmm.

These folks delusions are going to cost many of us our lives, we must be prepared to break their will....and soon.


13 posted on 05/06/2006 10:51:48 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Quite a boast from people who can't even design and manufacture their own sneakers, instead they have to rely on their "enemy" for even the New Balances they're wearing.


14 posted on 05/06/2006 10:52:13 AM PDT by anonsquared
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But the United States "will be destroyed gradually," he said.

If we are not mindful in the US, this experiment will follow the path of the Roman Empire that decayed from within, just as we are doing now.
Political corruption, oral corruption, widespread homosexuality, low birthrates, high immigrants, lack of respect for law, lack of respect for human life especially of the young and unborn, tax and spend politics, bread and circuses to keep the masses entertained while politicians raid the treasury is what brought down the Roman Empire long before the Goths invaded.

Any of that sound familiar?

15 posted on 05/06/2006 10:55:01 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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In a lecture that touched on the meaning of jihad, a leading Saudi cleric declared the United States is collapsing and Muslims must patiently await their ultimate victory.

Only if the democrats are put back in power. They'll surrender within 24 hours.

17 posted on 05/06/2006 10:57:27 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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Maybe on some Monoply type game board.
In real life?
Not anytime soon.
Not even Close.
20 posted on 05/06/2006 10:59:23 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I'll give up my HUMMER when you pry it from my COLD DEAD fingers. Or $25.00/GAL whichever is FIRST.)
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Fine, lets run up that deficit, baby!

Maybe that's the plan...

23 posted on 05/06/2006 11:02:24 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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"Islam is making steady progress in America," Al-Omar said. "Twenty-five thousand people have converted to Islam every year since 9-11, and an even larger figure was mentioned in the New York Times."

Thankfully, they're all still in prison (and the democrats want them to vote. How crazy is that?)

I'm sure there are a lot of blood thirsty jihadists still within the U.S. borders, but I also think this guy is more like a Baghdad Bob, part II. These Muslim mad men have a tendency to grossly exaggerate. Maybe their American made sneakers are tied too tight.

24 posted on 05/06/2006 11:02:52 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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"Whoever is familiar with the Sunna and the Hadith knows that a battle against the enemies of Allah awaits on the horizon, in which the Muslims will be victorious. This is confirmed by the reliable hadiths, as well as by reality."

[. . .]

"Because there were so many casualties, the Americans began to throw them into the Tigris and the Euphrates. The fish have eaten from the flesh of the American and have gotten fat. Are we permitted to eat these fish or not?' Yes. This is the truth, brothers."

The Sheik's reading of reliable hadiths, and his comforting notion of reality, is breathlessly phantasmagorical.

Gabriel Garcia Marquez, step aside!  This guy has got you beat.  He's got an even more absurdly fantastic spin on magical realism than you.  Just needs to work a bit on the art of it, but, still, I'm gonna buy his novel . . . when he writes it.

25 posted on 05/06/2006 11:03:44 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: FARS; All

This WAR is for REAL!

To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).

The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.

First, let's examine a few basics:

1. When did the threat to us start?
Many will say September 11, 2001. The answer as far as the United States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us:

* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
* Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
* Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
* Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
* Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;
* Pentagon 2001.
(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide).

2 Why were we attacked?
Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors, Presidents Ford or Carter.

3. Who were the attackers?
In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

4 What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%. i.e. 1,200,000,000.
(That is 1,200 million.)
5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?
Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also "Christian"), that made no difference. You either went along with the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests). (see http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm )

Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world
- German, Christian or any others.

Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else. The point here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements -- killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or die?

6. So who m are we at war with?
There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who m you are fighting.

So with that background, now to the two major questions:

1. Can we lose this war?
2. What does losing really mean?

If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions.

We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?

It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get . What losing really means is:

We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us, over the past
18 years. The plan was clearly, for terrorist s to attack us, until we
were neutered and submissive to them.
We would of course have no future support from other nations, for fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see, we are impotent and cannot help them.

They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be done. Spain is finished.

The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us.
However, it may already be too late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast!

If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us, if they were threatened by the Muslims.

If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else?

The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and , therefore , are completely committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise committed to winning at any cost.

Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple.
Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100% effort to win.

So, how can we lose the war?

Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!

Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and death seriousness of this situation.

President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation.
Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow "
profiling " . Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously?
This is war! For the duration we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we have become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.

And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added many more since then.

Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?

No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head.

Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.

Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war by a small group of our military police. These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.

And just a few years ago these same type prisoners killed 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq.

And still more recently, the same type enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners they held.

Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.

Can this be for real?

The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.

To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned
-- totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years

Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels!
That translates into ALL non-Muslims ( and even many Muslims ) not just in the United States, but throughout the world.

We are the last bastion of defense.

We have been criticized for many years as being " arrogant ". That charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world!

We can't!

If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no other free country in the world will survive if we are defeated.

And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of the world.

This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read.

If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve.
Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?

Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece.

And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide, that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once they are in power.

They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the masses. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the "peaceful Muslims"?

I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above : If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve it.

After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but our children, our grandchildren, our country and the world.

Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that includes the Politicians and media of our country and the free world!



Please forward this to any one you feel may want, or NEED to read it.
Our "leaders" in Congress ought to read it, too.


26 posted on 05/06/2006 11:04:43 AM PDT by Bobibutu
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The sheik cited a report "submitted by the American intelligence to the American officials, regarding the religion of Islam, which some think is defeated or weak today," saying Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and Muslims soon will become one-third of the world's population.

Actually, Christianity is the largest growing religion around the world. Muslims are switching in great numbers, because they've seen what Islam is and they don't want to kill people. They want peace.

28 posted on 05/06/2006 11:05:29 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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more than 40,000 American and Western casualties in three years... Americans are dumping their casualties in the Tigris and Euphrates rivers

This sounds like something written in the New York Times or the Washington Post, and echoed on CBS,ABC, NBC, CNN, etc.

29 posted on 05/06/2006 11:06:39 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Ignore the Drive-by Media. Build the fence. Sí, Se Puede!)
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He quoted a "U.S. Congressman John Morlan" – there is no representative by that name – who supposedly said: "The 21st century is the century of Islam, which will offer an opportunity for peace in the world."

He could mean Congressman Jim Moran, who is certainly stupid enough to say such a thing.

"Moranic Record Blaming an Iraq war on Jews is only the latest odd outburst from the Virginia Democrat."

www.nationalreview.com

32 posted on 05/06/2006 11:09:59 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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