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Bush calls terror fight WWIII
Agence France-Presse ^ | 06-05-2006 | From correspondents in Washington

Posted on 05/06/2006 5:29:15 PM PDT by LSUfan

US President George W. Bush has said the September 11 revolt of passengers against their hijackers on board Flight 93 had struck the first blow of "World War III".

In an interview with the financial news network CNBC, Mr Bush said he had yet to see the recently released film of the uprising, a dramatic portrayal of events on the United Airlines plane before it crashed in a Pennsylvania field.

But he said he agreed with the description of David Beamer, whose son Todd died in the crash, who in a Wall Street Journal commentary last month called it "our first successful counter-attack in our homeland in this new global war, World War III".

Mr Bush said: "I believe that. I believe that it was the first counter-attack to World War III.

"It was, it was unbelievably heroic of those folks on the airplane to recognize the danger and save lives," he said.

Flight 93 crashed on the morning of September 11, 2001, killing the 33 passengers, seven crew members and four hijackers, after passengers stormed the cockpit and battled the hijackers for control of the aircraft.

The president has repeatedly praised the heroism of the passengers in fighting back and so launching the first blow of what he usually calls the "war on terror".

In 2002, then-White House spokesman Ari Fleischer explicitly declined to call the hunt for Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda group and its followers "World War III".


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; bush; islam; islamists; jihad; jihadists; muslim; religionofpeace; rop; september11th; terror; terrorism; thereligionofpeace; trop; w; waronterror; wot; wwiii
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It's about time. We should have been calling it that on the morning of 12 September 2001.
1 posted on 05/06/2006 5:29:18 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

Let's see:

It's a war. Check.
It involves every country of the world. Check.

WW3 it is.


2 posted on 05/06/2006 5:32:03 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX)
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To: pillut48

Now all we have to do is convince the Demorats and the NY Times...


3 posted on 05/06/2006 5:38:49 PM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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To: pillut48
Communism and the cold war:

"It's a war. Check.
It involves every country of the world. Check.

WW3 it is."

4 posted on 05/06/2006 5:38:50 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: LSUfan
iran is determined to provoke an attack, quite possibly nuclear. Then we will see WWIII
5 posted on 05/06/2006 5:40:22 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: LSUfan

WW3, WW4, whatever. It's world war.


6 posted on 05/06/2006 5:41:02 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Communism and the cold war.

Mostly was not fought with guns, bombers and lost lives.


7 posted on 05/06/2006 5:41:53 PM PDT by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: LSUfan
Flight 93 crashed on the morning of September 11, 2001, killing the 33 passengers, seven crew members and four hijackers, after passengers stormed the cockpit and battled the hijackers for control of the aircraft.

Technically speaking, at least some of the crewmembers were killed during the initial takeover and it is quite likely other crew, passengers and hijackers died during the struggle before the crash.

The way it is worded implies that the the passengers were responsible for the crash. I object. The plane was going to crash anyway. All the heroic passengers did was change the crash site from the Capitol to a pasture.

8 posted on 05/06/2006 5:44:48 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: LSUfan
David Beamer, whose son Todd died in the crash, who in a Wall Street Journal commentary last month called it "our first successful counter-attack in our homeland in this new global war, World War III".

I missed this piece. Does anyone have a link to it? thx.

9 posted on 05/06/2006 5:49:42 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Orthodoxy: The antidote to the Dictatorship of the Media.)
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To: pillut48
WW3 it is.

No, it's WWIV. WWIII was the Cold War.

10 posted on 05/06/2006 5:49:57 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: LSUfan

Seems a little late to be using this terminolgy. I'm not sure if it fits because clearly not many are actively involved involved in this World War effort.


11 posted on 05/06/2006 5:50:00 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
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To: LSUfan

Great rhetoric from the president. Let's hope he comes to the realization that our pourous borders and our south of the border neighbor are an achilles heal in fighting WW III.


12 posted on 05/06/2006 5:50:46 PM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: stockpirate
The Cold War was fought with a couple of different weapons. The big two were proxy armies and the threat of the use of nuclear weapons. I say it was WW3. We're in World War 4 now.
13 posted on 05/06/2006 5:52:35 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: LSUfan

And its a Holy War.


14 posted on 05/06/2006 5:56:24 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: airborne

the War to Contain Islam as well


15 posted on 05/06/2006 5:59:45 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LSUfan

In other news the French government and populace view the War On Terror as the second Dien Phen Bu.


16 posted on 05/06/2006 6:06:32 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: stockpirate
"Communism and the cold war.

Mostly was not fought with guns, bombers and lost lives."

Around 100 million people were killed in many different ways fighting the cold war, most of them by their own government.

17 posted on 05/06/2006 6:11:35 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: jimfree
WW3, WW4, whatever. It's world war.

I thought we were supposed to be all hugs and kisses with Islam, we are only waring with some nebulous Al Qaida thingy; how can that be a world war? Maybe he meant war of the worlds? [!!!!!sarcasm!!!!]
18 posted on 05/06/2006 6:12:09 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: airborne

I was flipping channels the other day and I saw Madeline not-so-bright saying that people shouldn't be calling it a holy war. Obviously this comment was meant for Western audiences only, not for the perps.


19 posted on 05/06/2006 6:13:08 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: SandRat
"Dien Phen Bu"

I am sorry.. I am a little slow sometimes. what's that mean?

20 posted on 05/06/2006 6:13:08 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I really dig your webpage, Paleo

21 posted on 05/06/2006 6:15:32 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: LSUfan
The war on terror is WWIII. Why do so many pretend otherwise?
22 posted on 05/06/2006 6:16:28 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Why are those waiting ages to immigrate legally , never invited to the whine fest's of illegals?)
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To: LSUfan

Actually WWIII was the Cold War. We won that.

This other one has been going on since...well, when? Since the birth of Israel? Since the fall of the Ottoman Empire? Since Mohammed launched the first Holy War against the Infidel?


23 posted on 05/06/2006 6:19:27 PM PDT by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: LSUfan
3,4, whatever it takes. What surprises me is that someone in the media thought this was newsworthy. If GWB had said it was WWII, that might be newsworthy if you're suffering from BDS.
24 posted on 05/06/2006 6:21:46 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: LSUfan
"It's about time. We should have been calling it that on the morning of 12 September 2001."

A few people did.

The inspired knew it instantly. The truly enlightened knew it 10 to 20 years prior.

25 posted on 05/06/2006 6:24:14 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Steve Van Doorn
During the French Indo-China War when France was the controlling Colonial Power of what later would become Vietnam they were battling the Viet-Minh under Ho-Chi Minh. The Commanding General was General Nuygen Giap. They managed to trap the French Foreign Legion in a valley bowl at a place called Dien Phen Bu. The Viet Minh manually hauled artillery up to the bowl lip to rain death and destruction on the hapless Legionaries. The French government pleaded with the only nation capable of doing the massive resupply drop to the Legionaries to stage a breakout. One Sen from Texas, later to become President and hung with the albatross of the Vietnam War round his neck (LBJ), filibustered the senate authorization until it was too late and the Commander of the Legionaries surrendered. Like our MIAs from Vietnam all the Legionaries still have not been accounted for.

Dien Phen Bu was France's greatest hour of shame and defeat on the field of battle for surrendering.
26 posted on 05/06/2006 6:25:17 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: LeoWindhorse
...the War to Contain Islam as well...

A war wherein 'containment' is the objective is not worth fighting. Containment is merely a stalemate or cease-fire -- a pause in hostilities until the side that intends to impose dictatorship considers itself ready to try again. Islam certainly is not trying to 'contain' us. We should understand that and act accordingly. If it is a Holy War they want, then let them have it.

Nothing less than the future of Western civilization hangs in the balance.
27 posted on 05/06/2006 6:28:11 PM PDT by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
"Madeline not-so-bright"

That 'lady' is disgusting.

She was saved as a child by Serbs then she kills Serbs as they are protecting themselves from Islamic fanatics.

28 posted on 05/06/2006 6:29:30 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: Restorer
All the heroic passengers did was change the crash site from the Capitol to a pasture.

ALL?

29 posted on 05/06/2006 6:33:33 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: SandRat
"Dien Phen Bu"

I remember the battle now. I didn't know it was Johnson that ruined our relationship with France. I guess the Dems have always been stabing us in the back.

Thanks

30 posted on 05/06/2006 6:37:20 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: SteveMcKing
Hi SteveMcKing-

"...The inspired knew it instantly. The truly enlightened knew it 10 to 20 years prior..."


You're 100% correct. I remember being a little kid nearly three decades ago and my sweet and kind grandmother warning me about the "Mohammadans" in her very broken english. She was charming, kindhearted, and the entire neighborhood loved her...and she told me to NEVER trust a Muslim for even a moment. That cute little grandmother of mine was onto something back then...

~ Blue Jays ~

31 posted on 05/06/2006 6:39:07 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Restorer

The killers brought the plane down sooner because they shit their Islamic ass's during the uprising that's why!


32 posted on 05/06/2006 6:41:26 PM PDT by angcat
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To: stockpirate
Vietnam was a "battle" in the Cold War. So was Korea. So was the Berlin Airlift. So was tracking Soviet subs sortieing out of the Kola Peninsula into the North Atlantic (think we never lost any S-2s or S-3s doing that?). Etc.

There were plenty of Cold War casualties.
33 posted on 05/06/2006 6:44:18 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: walford
Defend Civilization Itself by Mark Helprin.

If you haven't seen this before, it's worth a read.

34 posted on 05/06/2006 6:50:40 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: LSUfan

You read my mind, he should've announced it loud and clear on Sept. 12th, 2001.


35 posted on 05/06/2006 6:51:36 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: LSUfan

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought with. But World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"...Albert Einstein.


36 posted on 05/06/2006 6:52:20 PM PDT by Supernatural (I used to care but things have changed.)
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To: kimosabe31

"Great rhetoric from the president. Let's hope he comes to the realization that our pourous borders and our south of the border neighbor are an achilles heal in fighting WW III."

At least Bush is refusing to send US aid to the PLO terrorists.


37 posted on 05/06/2006 7:00:12 PM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: SandRat

Except it's Dien Bien Phu. Here's some stuff for those that are interested.

http://www.dienbienphu.org/english/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dien_Bien_Phu
http://www.historynet.com/vn/bl_battle_to_remember/


38 posted on 05/06/2006 7:00:33 PM PDT by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: stormer

Ok So I can't spell


39 posted on 05/06/2006 7:03:02 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: LSUfan

Then what is he waiting for?


40 posted on 05/06/2006 7:07:00 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: the invisib1e hand
Wall Street Journal

Look it up. If you are smart enough to be on FR you can figure this out.

41 posted on 05/06/2006 7:07:48 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So ( Go Braves!)
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To: LSUfan

Now if Bush will just stop with that "religion of peace"
bullcrap.


42 posted on 05/06/2006 7:09:28 PM PDT by beethovenfan
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To: pillut48
WW3 it is.

WWIV. Reagan won WWIII.

43 posted on 05/06/2006 7:13:36 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Restorer
The way it is worded implies that the the passengers were responsible for the crash. I object. The plane was going to crash anyway. All the heroic passengers did was change the crash site from the Capitol to a pasture.

"United 93" makes that unmistakably clear.

Go see it -- unless one has an "anger management" problem...

44 posted on 05/06/2006 7:21:25 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi 2006 | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: Gordongekko909
We're in World War 4 now.

Yes. WWIV.

45 posted on 05/06/2006 7:26:42 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: beethovenfan
That and consider controling Americas borders. It is World War 3 after all. Yes Religion of peace , Jobs americans won't do , Strenghten the borders , vigilantes. Well i quess we say silly things in the fog of WW3 .
46 posted on 05/06/2006 7:27:55 PM PDT by fantom
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To: sionnsar

My beef is with the writers of the French "news" article, not with the producers of the movie, which I haven't seen yet, and certainly not with the passengers of Flight 93.

The way they worded the article implies that the passengers caused the deaths of all those on board.

I didn't like that.


47 posted on 05/06/2006 7:37:21 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Yeah I've heard someone actually call the WOT "World War 4" for the very reason the Cold war was "WW3"


48 posted on 05/06/2006 7:47:39 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: LSUfan

He wishes. It's about half the US against the jihadis, with everybody else (honorable mention to the Brits, Aussies, Danes, etc.) standing around looking po-faced.

A World War, in the sense of a war that everybody's fighting? Ha!


49 posted on 05/06/2006 8:14:37 PM PDT by Grut
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To: All
Unlike W.W.II -- the last time that the left supported the U.S. in war -- the enemy's propaganda machine has free rein here. Everywhere from members of Congress to the MSM and universities to web sites like DU and Daily Cuss the enemy's propaganda machine keeps going.

The world knows that no one can beat our military but our government can be -- and has been -- defeated. No more Vietnams! This one is for all the marbles.

50 posted on 05/06/2006 8:22:52 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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