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Ernesto Portillo Jr. : Tucson black leader skeptical of worry voiced by Minutemen
Arizona Daily Star ^
| Ernesto Portillo Jr.
Posted on 05/07/2006 8:52:41 AM PDT by SandRat
The names in the American pantheon of black civil rights leaders is long.
It stretches from Crispus Attucks, a slave of black and American Indian parents who was killed in the 1770 Boston Massacre by British soldiers, to Andrew Young Jr., a 1960s civil rights leader and later Atlanta mayor.
Now there's an effort to add a new name to the list: Minutemen.
The lawn-chair brigade, which appointed itself border guardians last year, has now taken it upon itself to become guardians of black America.
The Minutemen, lead by cofounder and failed congressional candidate Jim Gilchrist of California, launched a crusade Wednesday citing undocumented immigrants as the cause of black unemployment.
Immigration politics is making for stranger-than-usual bedfellows.
The Minutemen are the successors of the Know-Nothings, a mid-19th century anti-Catholic and anti-immigrant movement, and White Citizens Councils, the anti-integrationist and anti-semitic Southern groups of the 1950s and 1960s.
Now the largely white Minutemen members say they stand arm in arm with their black brothers and sisters.
But don't tell that to longtime Tucson civil rights leader, Clarence Boykins, who is the executive director of the Tucson-Southern Arizona Black Chamber of Commerce and president of the NAACP's Tucson chapter.
"The Minutemen don't speak for me or blacks in Arizona or America," said Boykins, who spoke at the April 10 rally at Armory Park.
He said the answer to illegal immigration is a comprehensive plan. He supports a path to legalization for undocumented immigrants and improved border security without fences.
It's true that within the black community, there are concerns over the impact of illegal immigration on black employment and the political future. While some blacks jeered Gilchrist and a few Minutemen in Los Angeles this week when the group launched its caravan to the nation's capital, there were other blacks who supported the border watchers.
"Illegal immigration has had and is having a devastating effect on the black community," the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, a Los Angeles Minuteman supporter and critic of the NAACP, told the Los Angeles Times. "Black Americans are being put out of jobs, they're put out of their own homes."
Black unemployment has persistently lagged behind white. The joblessness rate for whites 16 years and over was 3.9 percent. For blacks it was 8.8 percent, the Department of Labor's reported for April.
In 2004, 72 percent of black men in their 20s who did not complete high school did not have a job. That compared with 34 percent of white and 19 percent of Hispanic dropouts.
In some cities with large black populations, legal and undocumented immigrants have entered the work force, competing for low-wage jobs.
The Minutemen want black Americans and everyone else for that matter to make a connection between black unemployment and illegal immigration.
But it's an overly simplistic and incorrect connection, Boykins said.
Black unemployment is due to the lack of quality education and job opportunities, he said. State and national governments are not providing sufficient money to improve education and job training, he said.
Illegal immigration is a factor in the unemployment rate but it's not the culprit. The national rate is a relatively healthy 4.7 percent.
The Minutemen are trying to divide blacks and Latinos over jobs, Boykins said. "Nothing of what they profess is closely related to our issues."
As the small caravan of Minutemen drives to Washington, D.C., what they really want is to drive is a political wedge between blacks and Latinos.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: black; leader; minutemen; skeptical; tucson; voiced; worry
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posted on
05/07/2006 8:52:44 AM PDT
by
SandRat
To: HiJinx; Spiff; Borax Queen; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; A Navy Vet; ..
Trying to follow this one has the room seeming to spin wildly.
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posted on
05/07/2006 8:53:36 AM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: SandRat
Ernesto Portillo Jr.
The Minutemen are trying to divide blacks and Latinos over jobs, Boykins said. "Nothing of what they profess is closely related to our issues."
As the small caravan of Minutemen drives to Washington, D.C., what they really want is to drive is a political wedge between blacks and Latinos.
COMMENT:
Ernesto Portillo Jr.
The name should tell anyone that this guy could only write a fake but accurate phony baloney article about how blacks felt about the Minutemen.
The radical extremist Assland leaders see their mobs being reduced by the blacks turning on their inane ideas.
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posted on
05/07/2006 8:58:53 AM PDT
by
OKIEDOC
(There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
Minutemen Hit Piece Alert!
To: SandRat
I hate to say this but for once the liberal fruitcake in this article has it right.
The illegals should affect all groups equally in terms of employment but black unemployment is so much higher than other groups.
That would point to other causes as the problem for blacks.
Here I think Cosby has is right. Black ghetto culture is the main problem, not the illegals.
And surprisingly, the fruitcake gets it right again when he says "Illegal immigration is a factor in the unemployment rate but it's not the culprit."
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posted on
05/07/2006 9:02:50 AM PDT
by
staytrue
To: SandRat
"The Minutemen don't speak for me or blacks in Arizona or America," said Boykins
Seems to me that Boykins assumes that he speaks for a great many people.
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posted on
05/07/2006 9:02:57 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
To: Texas_Jarhead
This is no hit piece. He is right. Read post 4.
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posted on
05/07/2006 9:03:51 AM PDT
by
staytrue
To: SandRat
I have exchanged email with Ernest Portillo, Jr., and he is a typical knows everything, left wing goof off. I don't understand how anyone as apparently incompetent as he is can keep a job....
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posted on
05/07/2006 9:07:24 AM PDT
by
GW and Twins Pawpaw
(Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
To: SandRat
Ernie is always wrong about latino issues because he is blinded by his own predjudices.
Here are the stats from the Red Stars own opinion letters to the editor page:
Hot issues: For the week of April 30-May 6, the Star received 50 letters opposed to May 1 boycott (five in favor), 30 letters in favor of restricting immigrant rights (eight in favor of more immigrant rights)
He knows he is not persuasive on the issue and is losing. Time to pull out the race card and whine.
To: SandRat
Boykins is trying to tell us that illiterate drop outs from Mexican schools are better educated and qualified for jobs in America's work force than black drop outs from American schools?
Perhaps the solution to the unemployment problem among young blacks would be to provide funds for sending black children to boarding schools in Mexico for grades K through, say eighth grade. Then if they chose to drop out they would be competitive with illegal aliens for jobs, or if they chose to continue their education, would probably qualify for second year college.
Is Boykins a genius or what?
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posted on
05/07/2006 9:14:33 AM PDT
by
F.J. Mitchell
(Why are those waiting ages to immigrate legally , never invited to the whine fest's of illegals?)
To: staytrue
Did you mean post 5?
Anyway, Ernesto and the Daily Star are no fans of the Minutemen, and will do anything they can do to diminish the effectiveness of any initiative they perceive to be bolstering the MM's impact. No one's naive enough to believe that the illegals are at the root of black unemployment numbers. The MM are simply building a coalition and working-class blacks are definitely a valid group to work with. They have the added advantage that they are more immune to the radical activist's screams of racism.
We don't call that newspaper the Arizona Red Star for nothin'.
To: SandRat; kstewskis
Now the largely white Minutemen members say they stand arm in arm with their black brothers and sisters. 20% of the MM is not "white."
To: GW and Twins Pawpaw
Portillo writes (I use the term loosely) for low subscription newspaper read predominately, but with again limited distribution, in the town of Tucson. He likes to preach to the choir of fhe large illegal hispanic population (and their advocates)who reside there in significant numbers.
To: staytrue
This is no hit piece. You could've fooled me.
The lawn-chair brigade
The Minutemen are the successors of the Know-Nothings, a mid-19th century anti-Catholic and anti-immigrant movement, and White Citizens Councils, the anti-integrationist and anti-semitic Southern groups
the largely white Minutemen members
Minutemen are trying to divide blacks and Latinos over jobs
what they [MMP] really want is to drive is a political wedge between blacks and Latinos.
To: downtownconservative
Only problem for Ernesto is the illegals don't read the newspaper, especially the The Arizona Daily Red Star.
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posted on
05/07/2006 9:37:45 AM PDT
by
OKIEDOC
(There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
To: downtownconservative
It's a highly liberal newspaper. They dropped Coulter's column like a hot potato within a handful of weeks after starting it. Currently there's only one conservative voice on the opinion page.
Not that I've done any scientific polls, but among my friends and acquaintances opinions aren't split on anglo/hispanic lines, but on liberal/conservative lines. Many hispanics oppose any special treatment of illegals (other than getting them out of here), but sadly their voices are rarely heard.
Obviously a minority of hispanics are politically conservative, so your point is essentially on the mark.
To: staytrue
Arrival of aliens ousts U.S. workers
By Jerry Seper THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published April 10, 2006
An Alabama employment agency that sent 70 laborers and construction workers to job sites in that state in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina says the men were sent home after just two weeks on the job by employers who told them "the Mexicans had arrived" and were willing to work for less. Linda Swope, who operates Complete Employment Services Inc. in Mobile, Ala., told The Washington Times last week that the workers -- whom she described as U.S. citizens, residents of Alabama and predominantly black -- had been "urgently requested" by contractors hired to rebuild and clear devastated areas of the state, but were told to leave three job sites when the foreign workers showed up. "After Katrina, our company had 70 workers on the job the first day, but the companies decided they didn't need them anymore because the Mexicans had arrived," Mrs. Swope said. "I assure you it is not true that Americans don't want to work.........
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060410-123506-1297r.htm
And the kicker? Bush suspended the Davis-Bacon act which would have helped preclude getting these criminal illegal aliens on board.
To: GW and Twins Pawpaw
It's the Arizona Red Star. Only Fellow Travellors welcome and kept on.
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posted on
05/07/2006 10:56:56 AM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: Borax Queen
Well in the bird-shot pellet size minds of the left, (and I'm being overly generous in the sizing), justifies them saying the vast majority 80% are members other than of color. Remember the left loves to spin and parse words and numbers to meet their perverted agenda.
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posted on
05/07/2006 11:02:21 AM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: SandRat; Borax Queen
Black unemployment is due to the lack of quality education and job opportunities, he said. State and national governments are not providing sufficient money to improve education and job training, he said. So do what so many of what your black brothers and sisters did, as well as many more Americans of every color and ethnicity...
Don't rely on the government to make things right for you!!
The more you choose to do that, the more you chose to "remain a slave" to it. Don't make that mistake again.
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posted on
05/07/2006 11:31:39 AM PDT
by
kstewskis
(Minutechicks ROCK!!!!)
To: F.J. Mitchell
Very funny! "funds for sending black children to boarding schools in Mexico for grades K through, say eighth grade." All I can say is I am not buying his proposal that we invest even more money in failing inner city schools. I like the Katrina rescue solution best. Fire up the helicopters and airplanes and let my people go.
To: staytrue
Portillo's Dad was also a journalist, and a conservative. Ernesto is a very nice young man; very polite if you call him up; he's just a liberal.
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posted on
05/07/2006 12:21:56 PM PDT
by
DLfromthedesert
(Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
To: GW and Twins Pawpaw
But he agreed with me that members of PICC were rude and out of line at a Graf/Tancredo event a few months ago.
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posted on
05/07/2006 12:23:11 PM PDT
by
DLfromthedesert
(Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
To: axes_of_weezles
He also wrote an article about a local person of Mexican descent who opposed the marches, and also opposed illegal immigration.
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posted on
05/07/2006 12:25:01 PM PDT
by
DLfromthedesert
(Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
To: SandRat
Good afternoon.
It would appear that presence of The Minutemen scares Ernesto.
Michael Frazier
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posted on
05/07/2006 12:27:05 PM PDT
by
brazzaville
(no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
To: SandRat
Black unemployment is due to the lack of quality education and job opportunities, he said. State and national governments are not providing sufficient money to improve education and job training, he said. Maybe the quality education is not there because so many resources have to be devoted to teaching English to the children of illegal immigrants, which detracts from the education of the children of American hispanics, American blacks, and Americans whites. And maybe jobs in construction are not there for adult Americans because he will not work for the slave wages paid to the illegals.
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posted on
05/07/2006 12:28:25 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: SandRat
We all know a majority is any number bigger than 51%.
Exactly what percentage constitutes a vast majority ?
This is not a trick question by the way.
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posted on
05/07/2006 12:34:56 PM PDT
by
staytrue
To: brazzaville
There's a lot of things that frighten that RAT:
The Entire Bill of Rights
ALL the words of the Declaration of Independence not just a select few that he likes
ALL the words of the US Constitution not just the "Cherry-Picked" phrases he likes
The GOD Fearing Amerincans Scare the daylights out of him!
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posted on
05/07/2006 12:35:02 PM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: staytrue
For the RATS if it's 52% of the votes for their side then it's a vast majority and sometimes even 43% is mandate in an election if their candidate wins.
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posted on
05/07/2006 12:37:44 PM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: SandRat
Tucson civil rights leader, Clarence Boykins When was this guy elected leader? Boykins doesn't realize that the border is crossing him as he speaks.
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posted on
05/07/2006 1:22:01 PM PDT
by
Mike Darancette
(Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
To: SandRat
Maybe if the man talked to a few of the workers of color, who call in the radio talk shows.
They had it all going for them, the "American Dream", and then the border let in the flood of people to push them out and to vote for more to come in.
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posted on
05/07/2006 3:43:48 PM PDT
by
nw_arizona_granny
(WAKE UP AMERICA DAY IS MAY 1st, 2006. WATCH WHO MARCHES YOUR ROADS IN VICTORY!!!!!!!!!)
To: ClaireSolt
In my opinion Claire, that should have read: "Fire up the school buses, Nagin, and get my people the hell out of New Orleans, before that hurricane you have been warned about for weeks, hits Louisiana, bursts those lowest bidder built dikes and drowns those buses up to their windows!"
My proposal to send little black Americans to Mexico for grades K through eighth grade, so they can be competitive with absolutely illiterate, Mexican schooled illegal alien invaders, who are forcing them into unemployment, was intended as sarcasm.
In my humble opinion There is not one black or white American, who for a few bucks above coolie wages, would not work at any job that illegal aliens have claimed ownership of.
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posted on
05/08/2006 10:34:41 AM PDT
by
F.J. Mitchell
(Why are those waiting ages to immigrate legally , never invited to the whine fest's of illegals?)
To: SandRat
Portillo is typical of the trash you get from the AZ Red Star.
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posted on
05/08/2006 10:40:21 AM PDT
by
wjcsux
(I would prefer to have the German army in front of me than the French army behind me- Gen. G. Patton)
To: F.J. Mitchell
If they wont take the jobs at the wages that are being offered, they don't have to. It they were hungry they would beat the Mexicans up to get the jobs they have to have.
To: ClaireSolt
And then they would toss the hungry Americans into prison for eternity for even daring to suggest that illegal aliens are gobbling up the jobs that they have always filled and worked their asses off at in supporting their families.
If accepting jobs at wages that third world invaders would turn up their felonious noses at, and accepting that as the best America's children can ever hope for , is your idea of America's future.....Activate the idiot alert!
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posted on
05/08/2006 2:11:57 PM PDT
by
F.J. Mitchell
(Why are those waiting ages to immigrate legally , never invited to the whine fest's of illegals?)
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