Mary Cheney Considered Quitting 2004 Campaign Over Gay Marriage Issue

ABC News ^ | May 3, 2006

[durasell]

I just hate to see a perfectly good lesbian/gay agenda thread divert into philosophy.

[rollo tomasi]

I do think homosexuals will be allowed to marry in most if not all States in the future.

Not to crazy about the idea but looking at what is happening during this sexual "revolution" I say many people, politicians and judges are stricken with reprobate and malignant hearts/minds.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

I just hate to see a perfectly good lesbian/gay agenda thread divert into philosophy.

Your permission is not required, nor is it asked... This whole website is about political philosophy... Why are you here?

Mammalian reproductive biology transcends philosophy. This is how it works... Male + Female = Offspring. Simple, complete, eternal...

[durasell]

Why are you here?


Why are any of us here? Because no matter where you go, there you are.

[DM1]

"Mary Cheney Considered Quitting 2004 Campaign Over Gay Marriage Issue"

and i say who cares
so she would have left
big deal

[DBeers]

Perhaps you should ask yourself that question?

Suggest you review your postings and attempt to discern just why you yourself introduced the religious slant e.g pharisees. I am not a mind reader -it is your postings alone that I comment upon...

[DBeers]

What consenting adults do in their own homes is not your business.

LOL -a sophomoric straw man. Apparently you are about tapped out...

This thread is about Mary Cheney - not some fanatsized homosexualization of society.

-flawed arguments inevitably fail as such I can understand why some prefer delusion...

[Sunsong]

LOL -a sophomoric straw man.

Here you may really want to reflect - why on earth do you think other people's private lives are any of your business? That is an important lesson. Adults know the difference between what is their business - say the size and scope of government and what is not - what consenting adults do in their own homes.

I notice from some of your other posts that you take offence to what you consider your personal "matters" being questioned or talked about - and yet - you seem to think that you are "special" and that you can pry into others' private business.

[Sunsong]

And, that is exactly what she is all about...

No, that is not true. She is a person who is in the public eye - speaking out about how things look to her.

[DBeers]

Can you comment on this topic without attempting to promote homosexuality as normal and without attempting to divine my motivations for opposing the homosexualization of society? If not, maybe you should move on to another topic?

[Sunsong]

Can you comment on this topic without attempting to promote homosexuality as normal and without attempting to divine my motivations for opposing the homosexualization of society? If not, maybe you should move on to another topic?

Now you give credence to my point. Apparently you think you have some right to have "your business" not be made a public issue - while at the same time - you don't seem to comprehend that what consenting adults do in their own homes is NOT your business.

[DBeers]

Now you give credence to my point. Apparently you think you have some right to have "your business" not be made a public issue - while at the same time - you don't seem to comprehend that what consenting adults do in their own homes is NOT your business.

When I write a book, appear in news stories and get articles posted about such on FR feel free to make some points. Until then and unless you add something substantive to the discussion I can objectively put this "point" to bed and declare your posts thus far on this topic to be proved pointless...

I would suggest you simply concede and move on -else, the hole you seem intent on digging in self-destructive fashion will most likely grow deeper...

[spunkets]

"No man may become a law unto himself under the guise of freedom of religion..."

Yeah, whatever. You got something that voids the plain English of the 1st Amend, or are you just another big govm't deconstructionist spewing rubbish?

[spunkets]

" There you go again with your fingers in your ears."

The plain English of the passages refutes what you say.

[Sunsong]

I can only repeat - that you fail to comprehend what is your business and what is not. I will continue to point that out as long as you choose to write to me.

Btw, I feel free to make whatever points I want to already. I am neither looking for nor asking for permission.

[DBeers]

I can only repeat - that you fail to comprehend what is your business and what is not. I will continue to point that out as long as you choose to write to me.

Would you like to be added to the Homosexual Agenda ping list?

[hgro]

She is intelligent and attractive. Sooner or later she will fall for someone of the other gender.

[Sunsong]

No thanks - there is a link to them at the top of the page - which I peruse.

You may see me on more threads, however - especially if the extremists, taleban Christian, retreat to the past types really get going...

[Antoninus]

There's no justification whatsoever to interfere in private consensual matters.

Really? I imagine society would want to get involved in a "private consensual" situation where a parent was molesting their child. I'd be in favor of that. Would you? And if you're going to play the "too young to consent" canard, please tell me--who gets to set the age of consent in a liberal-tarian utopia anyway? Isn't that a "private" matter? Or should that particular private moral issue be the only one subject to community standards?

Furthermore, the attitude you're espousing is directly from the 1960s. Thomas Jefferson, as governor of Virginia, signed a bill that made castration the punishment for sodomy. I wonder what he--often claimed to be the most libertarian of the Founding Fathers--would have made of your statement: "There's no justification whatsoever to interfere in private consensual matters."

As for the rest, if you can't show rights violations, then there's no justification to impose your morality on others, ballot box, or otherwise.

Funny, we've got a situation in this country now where I can't in good conscience send my children to public schools for fear that they will have homosexual immorality imposed upon them. The lesson seems to be, if you're not willing to stand up for morality, you will be forced to accept immorality.

[Antoninus]

If you can't express and show the value of a moral code and it's purpose w/o reference to the authority of some being, it is worthless.

Quite the contrary. Any moral system absent the revelation of Almighty God is utterly worthless.