Posted on 05/09/2006 7:51:18 AM PDT by tlb
Kapow! Within a day, I got more than 2,000 e-mails. A day later, I got 1,000 more. By the fourth day, the number had reached 3,499 -- a figure that does not include the usual offers of nubile Russian women or loot from African dictators. The Colbert messages began with Patrick Manley ("You wouldn't know funny if it slapped you in the face") and ended with Ron ("Colbert ROCKS, you MURDER") who was so proud of his thought that he copied countless others. Ron, you're a genius.
The e-mails pulse in my queue, emanating raw hatred. This spells trouble -- not for Bush or, in 2008, the next GOP presidential candidate, but for Democrats. The anger festering on the Democratic left will be taken out on the Democratic middle. (Watch out, Hillary!) I have seen this anger before -- back in the Vietnam War era. That's when the antiwar wing of the Democratic Party helped elect Richard Nixon.
...war critics who are so hyped on their own sanctimony that they will obliterate distinctions, punishing their friends for apostasy and, by so doing, aiding their enemies. If that's going to be the case, then Iraq is a war its critics will lose twice -- once because they couldn't stop it and once more at the polls.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Maybe you can tunnel out, Richard.
Bless Cohen's heart/s He has met the rabid hatred personally now!
The libs freaked when Colbert wasn't written about (LOL yeah, right), but those reports were written to hide the fact that their boy wasn't funny. At all. (I think I grunted at one line, sat in silence at the others.)
Is this true? I don't exactly remember Hubert H. Humphrey (Johnson's VP) running on a peace platform? Nixon, on the other hand promissed to end the war? Did Humphrey promise the same to appease the antiwar wing of the Democratic party? I remember the choice being between the party that had escalated the war and the Republican party that promissed "Peace with honor".
Colbert was NOT funny. The audience didn't laugh at all. Of course, South Park IS the only thing worth watching on Cowardly Central (proudly mocking rural southerners and cowering to Islam).
I called for a hook..He bombed.

Atari Hangman....what great graphics.
Cohen becomes lucid and sees the world clearly about once every 4-6 weeks. But it never lasts.
>... who are so hyped on their own sanctimony that they will obliterate distinctions, punishing their friends for apostasy.
Hmmmm. Sounds like he could be describing the hard-core Bush apologists here on FR.
>... who are so hyped on their own sanctimony that they will obliterate distinctions, punishing their friends for apostasy.
Hmmmm. Sounds like he could be describing the hard-core Bush apologists here on FR.
Reminds me a little of Ginsburgs poem Howl:
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix
And God forbid that the Iraqis actually get it together and make their country work. That would be a third loss.
And if Iraq begins to influence other countries in the area to change their behavior? Well. Such things are better left unsaid.
That would imply someone had a broader and better strategic vision than the 'critics'. Someone the 'critics' are sure lacks intelligence.
Truth spoken!!!
mark
Dead from the neck up.
The last paragraph of Cohen's article -
The hatred is back. I know it's only words now appearing on my computer screen, but the words are so angry, so roiled with rage, that they are the functional equivalent of rocks once so furiously hurled during antiwar demonstrations. I can appreciate some of it. Institution after institution failed America -- the presidency, Congress and the press. They all endorsed a war to rid Iraq of what it did not have. Now, though, that gullibility is being matched by war critics who are so hyped on their own sanctimony that they will obliterate distinctions, punishing their friends for apostasy and, by so doing, aiding their enemies. If that's going to be the case, then Iraq is a war its critics will lose twice -- once because they couldn't stop it and once more at the polls.
The extreme right wing and the extreme left wing share so many characteristics...
They could start their own party, the Perpetually Pissed Party
Sounds like he could be describing the hard-core Bush apologists here on FR.
Kettle meet pot.
They could start their own party, the Perpetually Pissed Party
Well said.
Nice work, disparging the right wing with such a comparison.
The right wing voted for Bush, twice. They have largely supported Bush on Iraq. They held their noses in 2004 over Bush's spending and other transgression. And now because Bush wants to do something colossally stupid with his guest worker program, a position that has him meeting with Senate Dems instead of Senate conservatives, you have the unmitigated nerve to compare the far right to the far left?
From Wikipedia:
Nixon campaigned on a "law and order" theme, which appealed to many voters angry at hundreds of violent riots that had taken place across the country, with Army troops called out in Detroit and Washington. He had devised a "southern strategy," which was designed to appeal to the middle class southern voters, who traditionally voted Democratic but who were ignored by Humphrey.
Humphrey campaigned on continuing the Great Society programs initiated by President Johnson. Labor unions took a major role attacking Wallace, who was winning half their members according to summer polls.
In the end, the war became the central issue of the Democratic campaign, with the party deeply divided and Humphrey hounded by anti-war protesters whenever he made public appearances. Late in the campaign Humphrey, who trailed badly in the polls, began to distance himself from the Johnson administration on the Vietnam War, calling for a bombing halt. He began to gain momentum, especially when President Johnson actually announced a bombing halt, and even a possible peace deal, shortly before the election. During the campaign, Nixon promised a new approach, which was ridiculed by Democrats as a "secret plan". In the final days of the election, much was riding on the success or failure of the Paris Peace Talks with the North Vietnamese.
Nixon clinched the electoral vote easily on November 5, 1968, although the popular vote was closer than expected.
In 1968, the antiwar left sat out the election and did not line up behind Humphrey, although some trickled back at the last minute. In 1972, they gave us McGovern.
Ha ha ha ....loved the sound effects for Pitfall, too:
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Your term "agressively unfunny" fits. He was forcing an agenda into the material that just didn't work. When he mentioned that he shook hands with Bush and said his hands were soft it was a desperate attempt to try and neutralize somewhat Bush's image as a forceful leader. It was petty, small and just not funny. At that point Bush probably wanted to have a "side conversation" with him.
Actually that was a pretty good write up by Wikipedia. I did remember that Humphrey wasn't exactly a peace candidate. I dispute Cohen's contention that Humphrey as president would have ended the war even sooner. Perhaps he thinks the anti-war left would have had more influence on Humphrey than Nixon but I'm not sure that would have been the case. It sounds like it was George Wallace that actually sunk Humphrey - not the anti-war crowd. And if I recall, the war was NOT a big issue for Wallace voters.
The anti-war left was left leaderless when Kennedy was shot. They tried to support McCarthy but couldn't quite pull it off.
Nice work, misquoting me to set up a strawman.
Read it again:
The extreme right wing and the extreme left wing share so many characteristics...I'm a right winger, but I'm not a member of the unappeasable posse.They could start their own party, the Perpetually Pissed Party
Colman is one of the generation of Wiseass Idols. In the past young people liked rebels who were at least somewhat tough, Real Man types--from Sinatra to Kerouac to Hendrix. These were men, whether you liked them or not, who you felt had lived something of life, had talent, and either beat up or got beat up when they shot their mouth off.
Now it's too much work to Live A Life; so much easier for a nerd to go to college and then write for some limp-wrist magazine, and then continue to be the teenager who mocked people out of earshot. They're four-eyed wusses who mock those they wish they could be instead of praising them and maybe working towards those ideals.
Smartass humor is fine, but if that's ALL you've got in your diet, you haven't got much.
"Irony is always scratching your tired ass, whatever way you look at it. I would rather give full vent to all human loves and disappointments and take a chance on being corny than die a smartass." - Jim Harrison
"Hmmmm. Sounds like he could be describing the hard-core Bush apologists here on FR" ,p>Funny, I almost posted that he could be describing the hard-core "real conservatives" aka SAVAGE!Weiners here on FR.
"Hmmmm. Sounds like he could be describing the hard-core Bush apologists here on FR"
Funny, I almost posted that he could be describing the hard-core "real conservatives" aka SAVAGE!Weiners here on FR.
Just about everyone here is considered extreme right wing. And the term "unappeasable" has widely been used against those critical of Bush over his guest worker program.
So my comments stand.
> Reminds me a little of Ginsburgs poem Howl:
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix<
I doubt that Ginsburg ever came close to meeting the best minds of his generation.
Yeah. The Dems were split. Remember the '68 Dem convention? Don't forget that Wallace was a Dem.
Yeah, I remember visiting relatives in Detroit shortly after that happened. It was grim and my relatives were in no laughing mood. Of course nowadays there's a riot in Detroit every time one of their sports teams wins. Progress? :-)
The goofball fringe is completely in charge of the Democrat Party USA and Richard Cohen better get used to it. The Democrats' agenda is one of foreign appeasement and turning America into a Euro-style, secular-socialist welfare state. They will make this country as great as France, dadgummit!
You remember who Wallace's running mate was? :-)
Speak for yourself.
Good point. Old Curtis "bomb them back into the stone age" LeMay definitely had an opinion but I think most Wallace voters were thinking about domestic law and order as a result of many "race riots" across the country.
I speak from observation as to how FR and Freepers are viewed on the political spectrum.
But are you saying you're not all that right wing and are therefore a political outlier on FR?
>>Funny, I almost posted that he could be describing the hard-core "real conservatives" aka SAVAGE!Weiners here on FR.<<
Good point. I just don't see as many of them here as I do of the BushBots, who tend to savage any critic of W, no matter how mild or reasonable, as heretics and worse.
The reviewer indicated that when Ginsberg says "best minds of my generation" he just means "my friends and I".
When Ginsberg says "destroyed by madness" he just means "we got high".
I would grant that the poem contains some powerful language, but it is empty. There's nothing going on. There is no meaning. It's simply over-wrought lines by an immature person who felt that he wasn't getting what he deserved out of life. Big whoop.
As one who has been "SAVAGED", called a BushBot and told that "my type" is all the same, I'll attest to just the opposite of what you said.
By whom? The left wing? The extremists on both sides?
And the term "unappeasable" has widely been used against those critical of Bush over his guest worker program.
I doubt it. The "unappeasable" label is usually applied to people who are always on the Bush-bashing bandwagon, the immigration issue being the latest excuse.
Plenty of Bush-loving Freepers disagree with Bush on immigration, and I doubt they are "unappeasable."
So my comments stand.
In your head. You feel like being a "victim" today, so you're looking for offense where there is none.
My comments stand:
The extreme right wing and the extreme left wing share so many characteristics...They could start their own party, the Perpetually Pissed Party
That's true about the law and order.
" I just don't see as many of them here as I do of the BushBots"
(sound of me falling off chair in disbelief)
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