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'Yellow-Dog' Democrats a Dwindling Breed (MSM newsflash: South is no longer solidly liberal)
Yahoo! News ^ | May 9, 2006 | JIM DAVENPORT

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:59:04 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

GALIVANTS FERRY, S.C. - Many species are rare, even threatened, in the swampy marshes along the southeastern coast, and perhaps none is closer to extinction than the "yellow-dog" Democrat of the Old South.

For decades, straight-ticket, conservative white voters who displayed unyielding loyalty to the Democratic Party — they said they'd vote for a yellow dog if the Democrats ran one — transformed the South into a party stronghold.

The tide began to turn in the 1960s, when the Civil Rights Act alienated some lifelong conservative Democrats and Republican President Nixon courted yellow dogs with his "Southern Strategy." Since the presidential bid of Georgia's Jimmy Carter in 1976, no Democrat has carried the South and the region has become a Republican bastion.

"We are a vanishing breed," says Margaret Jackson, 67, of Manning, a rural area about 45 miles east of Columbia.

Some yellow-dog Democrats can still be found in the South, and they harbor hopes for the emergence of a next generation, looking at plunging approval ratings for President Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress, even in the South.

An AP-Ipsos poll last week showed that Bush's job approval in the South had dropped to 35 percent, and those polled favor Democratic control of Congress over Republican by 50 percent to 37 percent.

Jackson, a second-generation yellow dog and former Clarendon County treasurer, says her late father "always said we were much better off under Democrats."

Since 1870, Democrats have gathered every other year at the Galivants Ferry Stump, a political rally held at a stop along the tourists' route to Myrtle Beach, to celebrate old-fashioned stump campaigning.

With banjo music in the background, politicians shake hands, slap backs, give speeches and dig into chicken bog — a steamy mix of rice, sausage and chicken. Some springs it seems too hot to eat, but Democrats keep cool by rolling up their sleeves, slinging their seersucker jackets over a shoulder or downing gallons of sweet tea.

"I'd vote for a yellow dog before I'd vote for a Republican," says Wanda Todd, 61, of nearby Myrtle Beach. Like most of South Carolina, the glitzy Grand Strand now leans toward the GOP.

Todd says she has never voted for a Republican — "I'm too Southern for that."

Emory University political scientist Merle Black says straight-ticket, conservative white voters haven't been a force in the Democratic Party for years. "That's long gone," he said.

Black cited 2004 exit polls that showed 18 percent of voters described themselves as white, conservative Democrats or as white, liberal independents. At best, he said, less than 5 percent of Democratic voters would fit the traditional yellow-dog profile.

In the South, Arkansas and West Virginia are the only states each with two Democrats in the Senate as Republicans control most of the seats. Louisiana and Florida each have one senator from the two parties.

Jo Etta Chewning, 55, of Florence, admits she voted for Nixon and that was the last time she cast a ballot for a Republican. "You see how that turned out," she says with a laugh.

The type of ballot-splitting that helped Nixon, Reagan and both Bushes in the South is what created the "yellow dog" moniker in 1928. At the time, a Democratic Alabama lawmaker decided to support Republican Herbert Hoover for president instead of his party's nominee, Al Smith. The rank-breaking brought a backlash from those who said they'd vote for an ol' yellow dog — as long as it was a Democrat.

At the Galivants Ferry Stump, and other southern outposts, some Democrats have visions of a new breed.

In South Carolina, the party has started a Yellow Dog Club to raise badly needed money for 2006 elections. Yellow dog T-shirts and buttons were a hot item at a recent state Democratic convention.

The Yellow Dog Club is already popular in Mississippi. State Democratic Party executive director Keelan Sanders said members there are "black and white, male and female. It's not just limited to the stereotypical past definition of yellow-dog Democrats."

In Nashville, Judge John Brown conceded he voted for a Republican in a 1972 local race. While he doesn't describe himself as a conservative, he says he follows the family tradition of voting Democrat.

"My daddy made a mistake voting Republican one time in 1948" in Thomas Dewey's presidential bid against Democrat Harry Truman, said Brown, 64. "My mother sent him to his grave never letting him forget he made that mistake one time."

That election year was a turning point for many yellow dogs as South Carolina's Strom Thurmond bolted from the Democratic Party to run as a Dixiecrat opposing Truman's civil rights policies. Thurmond switched to the GOP in 1964 while in the Senate but continued to win elections, thanks to ballot-splitting Democrats.

He doesn't split his ballot, but Brown said sometimes he passes over candidates who aren't to his liking. "I don't vote for Democrats just because they're Democrats," he said.

Lachlan McIntosh, executive director of the South Carolina Democratic Party, says today's yellow-dog Democrats aren't the same as those reared in the segregated South.

"The Republican Party certainly isn't the party of Lincoln today, and the Democratic Party isn't the party of (late Alabama Gov.) George Wallace," McIntosh said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Georgia; US: Kentucky; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: democrat; dixie; dixiecrats; heartland; realignment; southerndems; southernvote; southland; welcometo21stcentury; yellowdogdemocrat; yellowdogs
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First, I find it amusing that the mainstream media is profiling these yellow-dog democrats like a scientist studies a specimen under the microscope. It's kind of like when they figured out NASCAR was big.

Second, note how they say the breed may be dying, and then go on to show how big and common it is.

I'm of two minds about whether or not the species of yellow-dog democrat is dying. I've certainly spoken to my share of people who are yellow-dog, but wouldn't say it in as many words. I did meet one who was. Naturally, he was my political science instructor in college. I've never heard of people who proudly boast that they never think about who they vote for.

On the other hand, it's clear the south is no longer solidly Democrat, as evidenced by the past elections.

1 posted on 05/09/2006 6:59:08 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger
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To: DaveLoneRanger

What do they call a voter -- like me -- who will NEVER again vote for any democrat, for any office, no matter who it is and no matter what office it is, as long as I live?


2 posted on 05/09/2006 7:05:04 PM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: 9999lakes

I did vote for clinton. I am finding it harder and harder to vote democrat anymore. Its not that the repubs have been stellar since the last election, but i live in the state with one of the most dangerousw senators. i voted for him in 2004 and I sent him a letter stating that i will never vote for him again(Feingold)


3 posted on 05/09/2006 7:08:40 PM PDT by sachem longrifle (Proud member of the Fond Du Lac band of the Chippewa people)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

2 point bonus if you can guess the commonality between those yellow dogs and this one.....:)

4 posted on 05/09/2006 7:09:29 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: 9999lakes

A genius....:)


5 posted on 05/09/2006 7:10:09 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: 9999lakes
>>What do they call a voter -- like me -- who will NEVER again vote for any democrat, for any office, no matter who it is and no matter what office it is, as long as I live?<<

Smart.

6 posted on 05/09/2006 7:10:22 PM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: DaveLoneRanger
The only "yellow-dog" Democrats left are those who are old enough to have lived during the Depression. The youngest person who could have voted for FDR is 83 now.

Most of these started leaving the plantation in 1964 - half of the South went for Goldwater. Most of the rest left in 1980.
7 posted on 05/09/2006 7:11:29 PM PDT by decal (My name is "decal" and I approve this tagline)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I'm a "broken-glass voter" -- I'll crawl across broken glass to vote AGAINST ANY DemonKat ...


8 posted on 05/09/2006 7:15:23 PM PDT by Babu
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To: DaveLoneRanger
One of the most significant events in race relations is happening here in the South and the MSM is in the tank so much for the left they're ignoring it. Many white Southern rednecks are seriously considering voting a black woman ( Condi ) for President. But the left has to continually marginalize her and those who would vote for her so much they won't report it as it doesn't fit their agenda. I'll go on record and declare that if she runs and wins, nobody here will be surprised but the liberal media sure will, or at least act it.
9 posted on 05/09/2006 7:16:26 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Salamander

Rabid to the end.


10 posted on 05/09/2006 7:18:44 PM PDT by joshhiggins
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To: decal
Most of these started leaving the plantation in 1964 - half of the South went for Goldwater. Most of the rest left in 1980.

The change started in 52. Lots of former southern soldiers voted for Ike. Once they saw they could do it and not be struck by lightening, things began to change.

11 posted on 05/09/2006 7:18:48 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (Justice and "The Law" are not always the same thing.)
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To: sachem longrifle
"I did vote for clinton. I am finding it harder and harder to vote democrat anymore. Its not that the repubs have been stellar since the last election, but i live in the state with one of the most dangerousw senators. i voted for him in 2004 and I sent him a letter stating that i will never vote for him again(Feingold)."

The sad part is that you are what passes for a "conservative" these days on Freerepublic. Why are you even here?

12 posted on 05/09/2006 7:23:21 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: joshhiggins

We have a winner!.....;D


13 posted on 05/09/2006 7:25:30 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Godebert

Dude! He's a convert! wtf?


14 posted on 05/09/2006 7:31:56 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
'Yellow-Dog' Democrats a Dwindling Breed

Hmm, interesting. So, how's about this "horseless carriage" thing I've been hearing about? I don't think it'll ever go anywhere. Zing!

15 posted on 05/09/2006 7:32:56 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Salamander

Dead.

This is the saddest movie of all time.


16 posted on 05/09/2006 7:35:18 PM PDT by GatorGirl
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To: 9999lakes
What do they call a voter -- like me -- who will NEVER again vote for any democrat, for any office, no matter who it is and no matter what office it is, as long as I live?

I don't know what the criminals call you, but I'll call you a great friend and a freedom-loving, American patriot.

17 posted on 05/09/2006 7:41:56 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Incorrect headline! The South was once solidly Democraat but it was never Liberal.


18 posted on 05/09/2006 7:44:40 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

The old sothern dems. were far to the right of present day repubs.The present day voters are FOOLS if they don't realise the new dems. are socialist.....


19 posted on 05/09/2006 7:45:05 PM PDT by grounhog (Ss grounhog)
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To: Gordongekko909
"Dude! He's a convert! wtf?"

He voted for Clinton....twice! No way is he a Conservative.

20 posted on 05/09/2006 7:46:59 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Godebert

RECENT convert! Read his profile! Post-9/11 convert! September 11th did that to a lot of people!


21 posted on 05/09/2006 7:50:06 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: GatorGirl

I haven't watched it since the first time I saw it brand new in a theater as a little kid.
Ain't gonna, neither.

Too much for me.
I'm a big time dog person.


22 posted on 05/09/2006 7:52:45 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: sachem longrifle

I live in the same state as you -- Feingold -- I'm in La Crosse. Where are you?


23 posted on 05/09/2006 7:52:56 PM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: Gordongekko909
"RECENT convert! Read his profile! Post-9/11 convert! September 11th did that to a lot of people!"

So? There are plenty of social liberals on Freerepublic that supoort the "war on terror". This guy even voted for Feingold.

24 posted on 05/09/2006 7:57:44 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: DaveLoneRanger

The most idiotic, mindless reason I've ever heard to vote for the Dims is "my family has ALWAYS voted that way," and (my words) since you don't have a functional brain cell, you're going to continue the mistake!


25 posted on 05/09/2006 8:04:43 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: 9999lakes
Brilliant?
26 posted on 05/09/2006 8:07:05 PM PDT by 359Henrie (We cannot deport 12 million can we? Si, se puede!)
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To: BnBlFlag

"The South was once solidly Democraat but it was never Liberal."
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Ahhh, a great distinction. Thank you. The South does tend to be conservative vis a vis the big NE cities and San Fransissysko. Thank you for bringing up that difference; it's important. It answers the question a columnist asked the other day "Where did the conservative Dims go?" - they finally got sick of the lib loonies and changed the initial after their names to R's, but they are still the same flavor as before.


27 posted on 05/09/2006 8:11:16 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: 9999lakes

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What do they call a voter -- like me -- who will NEVER again vote for any democrat, for any office, no matter who it is and no matter what office it is, as long as I live?
<<

Intelligent?


28 posted on 05/09/2006 8:40:38 PM PDT by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: 9999lakes

American


29 posted on 05/09/2006 8:55:21 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (( Multi-culturism has to go for a dirt nap.))
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To: sachem longrifle

Ha, I get John Edwards in an office of power in my state. Good thing he is never there. The funny thing is that NC is so wonderfully conservative that alot of our Liberals qualify as Consevatives in my home state MA. Alot of this "Yellow dog" crap is derived from the idea that Republican=Abolitionist. Some wounds die hard.


30 posted on 05/09/2006 9:01:08 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (( Multi-culturism has to go for a dirt nap.))
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

There is a problem with this. Condi hates elections and won't run for anything. Part of her nature. She does want to be the commishioner of the NFL (dream job) As for me, I hope she is not elected president. She doesn't want the job in the first place. But I see an awesome National Director of Intelligence in Dr. Rice.

P.S. Yeah I am one of those southern whites that wants her as an influence in government. But politics are not Condi's forte.


31 posted on 05/09/2006 9:07:28 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (( Multi-culturism has to go for a dirt nap.))
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To: Gordongekko909

Hey, wonders never cease. One friend who was a complete Clinton apologist and somewhat Marixist called me on 9/12 2001 to say she really had been listening to me all along and that I was right and she was going to register as a Republican the next day. She has since backed it up with "freeper-like" activism. Another friend who is Mexican and was an ardent liberal also turned 360 degrees after 9/11. She is 60 years old and has become an activist on border issues and recently applied to join the Minutemen. People do change and reasess all the time. Thank God.


32 posted on 05/09/2006 9:07:44 PM PDT by Irishgirl
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To: Rembrandt

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Where did the conservative Dims go?
<<

Just as you said: the voters didn't change; the democRAT party did.

The truly sad and funny thing is they have no clue about that. Nancy Pelosi is genuinely stupid.


33 posted on 05/09/2006 9:16:18 PM PDT by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Purple-cat Republicans


34 posted on 05/09/2006 9:18:03 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: Godebert

Frankly I think we should let the DUers stay on here. Open disscussion between Conservatives who are well informed and Liberals ends with a rout. Have you ever argued with a Leftist? If the volley goes more than 7 times across or requires any knowledge of the world situation, they are lost. One liners and slander are their forte. The jabs of no consequence that get weaker under inspection. The President leaked information! The President can leak anything he damn well pleases. There are grounds for impeachment! Haven't broken a law yet. A military man in charge of the CIA! Not unusual. Most Directors of the CIA have had a military or Political background. Thanks I will take the military. The MSM won't tell you his prior job was with the NSA.
In the end, a debate is a rout, with screaming Liberals running, just able to quote one liners from Michael Moore and that buffoon Al Franken.
I am all for iviting the Liberals to scream and rant. We make more sense to the informed.


35 posted on 05/09/2006 9:19:11 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (( Multi-culturism has to go for a dirt nap.))
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Many in my family are yellow-dog Democrats and I respect them for that. They're holding to family tradition. Personally I don't care what party the person is as long as they are conservative. And that's usually not the Republican or the Democrat, although many local Democrats I've met are more conservative than their Republican counterparts.


36 posted on 05/09/2006 9:19:28 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: 9999lakes

You're in La Crosse, I'm in Holmen. I've always wondered if there were other Freepers in the area. Now I know.


37 posted on 05/10/2006 2:53:16 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Irishgirl
"360 degrees"

I hope she then immediately turned 180 degrees.

38 posted on 05/10/2006 2:55:38 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Irishgirl

Thanks for the anecdotes! They remind me of one of my favorite quotes from William Blake:

"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."

Glad you have a few acquaintances whose cerebral fluids are flowing.


39 posted on 05/10/2006 3:09:43 AM PDT by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: Rembrandt
"The South was once solidly Democrat but it was never Liberal."

Exactly.

Speaking as a native Georgian- my area was probably 80% Democrat before Ronald Reagan won them over- the old-time, Southern Democrat was fiercely patriotic, pro-military, and usually a strong supporter of the Bill of Rights.

40 posted on 05/10/2006 3:10:07 AM PDT by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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To: backhoe

alot of the local democrats on the iron range in minnesota are staunchly conservative on social issues. I never said I was Republican, i am conservative on alot of issues. I didnt realize that the requirement for posting on here was you have to vote republican no matter what. Yes, in 2004 I did vote for Feingold. Do i regret it? yes!! I sent him a letter informing him of that and that i considered him too dangerous to vote for again. i would vote for a dem IF I could trust them to be a true hawk on national security and that he wouldnt laugh at american heartland values. Sadly, that dem does not exist anymor. my father is also coming around and my mother, well, at the very least she is finding it harder to defend them. She still hates Bush, but she also has nothing kind to say about Dems


41 posted on 05/10/2006 5:39:10 AM PDT by sachem longrifle (Proud member of the Fond Du Lac band of the Chippewa people)
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To: 9999lakes

north of danbury, just 30 minutes north of the res. although the st croix band isnt mine. i am a Fond du lac(from minnesota). No matter, we all look the same LOL


42 posted on 05/10/2006 5:42:53 AM PDT by sachem longrifle (Proud member of the Fond Du Lac band of the Chippewa people)
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To: Godebert
So? There are plenty of social liberals on Freerepublic that supoort the "war on terror". This guy even voted for Feingold.

just a hint....

the correct response would have been: "Oh, sorry. My Bad. Next time I won't jump at the chance to clobber my fellow FReepers."

but if you enjoy division amongst and within the people who are on your team, by all means- continue to march over the cliff in the name of pride before ever apologizing or admitting a mistake.

43 posted on 05/10/2006 5:50:14 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (The NEW Axis of Evil.......Bush, SUV's, Exxon Mobile and AMBIEN..........................)
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To: When do we get liberated?

>Alot of this "Yellow dog" crap is derived from the idea that Republican=Abolitionist. Some wounds die hard.<

In other words, they're racist. The Democrat party is where they belong.


44 posted on 05/10/2006 6:04:46 AM PDT by Darnright (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: eeevil conservative

Those that support abortion and the homosexual agenda, crap on our Constitution and the 2nd Amendment, openly advocate open borders and amnesty for the illegal invaders are NOT on "my team". Maybe that's your team........but it will NEVER be mine.


45 posted on 05/10/2006 4:38:00 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Godebert
Godebert....meet Cliff...


46 posted on 05/10/2006 4:41:45 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (The NEW Axis of Evil.......Bush, SUV's, Exxon Mobile and AMBIEN..........................)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
That's a hilarious title "south no longer liberal"

Talk about understatement.

When WAS it liberal? Stupid Commie journalists.

47 posted on 05/10/2006 4:58:44 PM PDT by ottersnot ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: When do we get liberated?
I just LOVE arguing (they don't know how to debate) with liberals.

Liberals react to FACTS--the same way that Linda Blair reacts to Holy Water!

48 posted on 05/10/2006 5:01:28 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: stockstrader

"Liberals react to FACTS--the same way that Linda Blair reacts to Holy Water!"


That's a great line.


49 posted on 05/10/2006 8:05:51 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: 9999lakes

You're a yellow-dog anti-dem.


50 posted on 05/11/2006 4:45:07 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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