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NJ: Weapons cache seized at home in Greenville
NJ.com ^ | May 9, 2005 | MICHAELANGELO CONTE

Posted on 05/09/2006 7:42:26 PM PDT by Firefigher NC

Edited on 05/09/2006 7:47:53 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

An arsenal of exotic weapons - including a sniper rifle, a spear and a set of 8-inch metal claws - were seized from a 23-year-old Jersey City man after his worried father called cops. When South District cops responded to the Greenville home yesterday morning, they found the sniper rifle - with a powerful scope and a laser sight - as well as three Glock handguns and more than 1,200 rounds of ammunition, reports said. Among the bullets were illegal "hollow-point" rounds, police said. In addition to the spear and metal claws, cops found a number of savage-looking knives, including one that had blades coming out of each end of its carved wooden handle. The owner of the weapons lived with his father, his brother and two younger brothers, police said.


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Wow, a scoped rifle, some handguns, and knives are now a threatening 'arsenal.' Also, how can this author make hollow points sound exotic and unknown? Just seems like something everybody would know about.
1 posted on 05/09/2006 7:42:30 PM PDT by Firefigher NC
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To: Firefigher NC

He was more heavily armed than Canada.


2 posted on 05/09/2006 7:43:29 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Firefigher NC

It's a stockpile, I tell ya! It sure sounds menacing. Better report anyone with a rifle to authorities. Ditto for knives. Better lock em up.


3 posted on 05/09/2006 7:48:08 PM PDT by Sender (“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names.” – Old Chinese proverb)
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To: Firefigher NC
Don't forget that these weren't ordinary guns and knives...these were savage looking weapons.
4 posted on 05/09/2006 7:49:21 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: Firefigher NC
Yeah, but how about the Klingon Ninja's "metal claws and savage-looking knives, including one that had blades coming out of each end of its carved wooden handle".

I wonder where I can get one of those....:-)

5 posted on 05/09/2006 7:50:13 PM PDT by Sarajevo
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To: Firefigher NC

Jeez, sounds like my kid's bedroom.


6 posted on 05/09/2006 7:51:18 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Firefigher NC
I can only imagine how the press would report MY...ummm...collection. I'll bet my claymore would warrant an entire paragraph :)
7 posted on 05/09/2006 7:52:34 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: Firefigher NC

So my chainsaw, rake, rotozip, hammer, powerdrill, band saw, recipricating saw, hacksaw... are all potentialy a frightning weapons cache to NJ police? Makes me sick how the pussies are taking over.


8 posted on 05/09/2006 7:52:43 PM PDT by Porterville (I gave at the State Franchise Board; leave me alone you blood sucking liberal.)
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To: Firefigher NC

Did he commit any crimes?


9 posted on 05/09/2006 7:53:34 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Porterville

Ted Kennedy is calling for restrictions on the sale of all of those items as we speak.


10 posted on 05/09/2006 7:54:05 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Porterville

As I type, my machete is laying on the desk beside my computer that my brother was using to clear away some brush. Wonder what the liberal weenies would think of that?


11 posted on 05/09/2006 7:54:21 PM PDT by Firefigher NC
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To: Firefigher NC
"Among the bullets were illegal "hollow-point" rounds"

I overlooked that. LOL You can't own hollowpoints in NJ? I have several handgun mags full of them!

12 posted on 05/09/2006 7:55:27 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: KoRn

"Did he commit any crimes?"

Nope, just made his father feel uncomfortable. What a pussy.


13 posted on 05/09/2006 7:55:44 PM PDT by Firefigher NC
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To: Firefigher NC
Also, how can this author make hollow points sound exotic and unknown?

LOL. I have 11 hollow points strapped to my ankle right now. You know, 1 in the chamber and 10 in the magazine.

14 posted on 05/09/2006 7:56:10 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Como se llama, bonita, mi casa, su casa)
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To: Firefigher NC

ONLY 1200 rounds? Cripes, what a lightweight. Illegal hollowpoints? KMRIA.


15 posted on 05/09/2006 7:56:46 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Arthalion

Sword or landmine?


16 posted on 05/09/2006 7:57:31 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: Firefigher NC

That is some very scary stuff!!!

You should see all the "savage-looking" things that my Bride has in the kitchen!!!


17 posted on 05/09/2006 7:57:56 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Firefigher NC
The man had been licensed to own the guns, but he isn't allowed to keep them under the court order, reports said.

scratchin my head...has to be more to this story than this article.
18 posted on 05/09/2006 8:01:30 PM PDT by stylin19a (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: RKV
ONLY 1200 rounds? Cripes, what a lightweight

Maybe he was down to his last thousand. ;-)

That reminds me; I need to go off and order some more.

19 posted on 05/09/2006 8:02:56 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ICE, ICE Baby.)
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To: KoRn
Thoughtcrime certainly. Seriously, 4 guns is a "cache" B.S! I have 2 and a K-bar in my trunk. I guess my car would a mobile arsenal by their definition. I too collect "exotic" weapons, ie, knives, swords, etc, probably a good percentage on FR do as well. Fortunately I do not live in the People's Republic of NJ. Plus he was 23, he has a right to own those weapons.
20 posted on 05/09/2006 8:03:05 PM PDT by gafusa
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

Q: What does one call two guns laying side-by-side inside a gunvault in NJ?
A: An arsenal

They really do have a few screws loose in the state of New Jersey these days. The legalities surrounding hollowpoint cartridges is among the most misquoted and mistaken topics out there. There is a reason the signs leading to Pennsylvania used to say something like, "Welcome to Pennsylvania, America Starts Here!"

~ Blue Jays ~

21 posted on 05/09/2006 8:03:19 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Firefigher NC
Hollowpoints stored as he did are legal even in New Jersey. SOURCE. Scroll down a bit to subsection f(2).

I sure hope his Pop never gets a glance at my knick-knack credenza. He'd wet his pants.

22 posted on 05/09/2006 8:03:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: WorkingClassFilth

The problem was the spear was full, auto class III.

Good Gravy! NJ was strange when I lived there 25 years ago.


23 posted on 05/09/2006 8:03:58 PM PDT by stimpy17 (Crazy is as crazy does)
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To: Firefigher NC
MICHAELANGELO CONTE,

you're a...










24 posted on 05/09/2006 8:04:58 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: KoRn

"I overlooked that. LOL You can't own hollowpoints in NJ? I have several handgun mags full of them!"

Hollowpoints are illegal in NJ.


25 posted on 05/09/2006 8:06:35 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: WorkingClassFilth
ROFL! Sword. The mines may be fun for taking out burglars, but picking up the leftover bits is a little gross.

Of course, burglars entering my house wouldn't meet my claymore anyway. That's what double aught is for :)
26 posted on 05/09/2006 8:07:02 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: VeniVidiVici

PLEASE, don't even get CLOSE to your last 1000 rounds. Remember to BE PREPARED. Personally, I go ammo shopping when I get near 3000 (including my .22 LR stash).


27 posted on 05/09/2006 8:07:55 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: driftdiver; KoRn
Hi driftdriver-

Please read the hyperlink above. Hollowpoints are not illegal across the board. You can also check packing.org for additional information.

~ Blue Jays ~

28 posted on 05/09/2006 8:10:15 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: RKV

Seriously? I don't think I've ever had more than 500 rounds in the safe, and I probably only have about 150 right now. What the heck do you shoot that burns so much ammo?

Of course, there are so few gun stores around here that our prices are a bit outrageous. I'd go broke storing a few thousand rounds away.


29 posted on 05/09/2006 8:11:15 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: stimpy17
"the spear was full, auto class III"
You owe me a new keyboard. That line made me laugh so hard I spilled my coffee.
30 posted on 05/09/2006 8:12:03 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Firefigher NC
Four guns are an arsenal now! Wow!

I have six guns. Would that qualify as a large arsenal?

If they find .223 rounds, will the media call them "Very High Powered" like they did during the D.C. sniper shootings?
31 posted on 05/09/2006 8:12:12 PM PDT by JillValentine
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To: Porterville

You forgot to mention the greasegun, caulking gun, soldering gun, and lawnmower:-)


32 posted on 05/09/2006 8:12:22 PM PDT by Sarajevo
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To: stylin19a

There has to be more to this story than the article says. While it chaps me to no end to hear the MSM call his collection a "cache" of "exotic" weapons, I am going to give the father (it is HIS house) the benefit of the doubt. He does live with this young man (and his younger siblings) and perhaps he had reason to fear for his and/or his children's safety. Not enough information to know. As far as the weapons confiscation, at least here it is standard language in a restraining order to restrict the person's access to weapons. Actually makes sense if a restraining order is being used to "protect" an innocent....but that's a whole other thread!!


33 posted on 05/09/2006 8:15:29 PM PDT by zgirl
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To: Firefigher NC
Good evening.
"...cops found a number of savage-looking knives,"

I don't know about the rest of you but I feel much safer knowing there are fewer savage-looking knives on the street.

Michael Frazier
34 posted on 05/09/2006 8:15:47 PM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Arthalion

Not that I go through it quickly, but I do buy in bulk to cut costs (save about a third that way). It stores for a long time, too. Also, remember - the time when you really need ammo, you won't be able to buy it. .22LR will do for money if things get really TARFU'ed. Do yourself a favor and up your ammodump. Walmart sells good stuff at a reasonable prices, and you can find them just about anywhere.


35 posted on 05/09/2006 8:16:08 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Arthalion
"Seriously? I don't think I've ever had more than 500 rounds in the safe, and I probably only have about 150 right now. What the heck do you shoot that burns so much ammo?"

What? Heck one brick of .22LR is 500 rounds. Ever go out a shoot a AR-15? AK? FAL? I usually have well over 10,000 rounds myself, not including my side business which stocks WAY more.

36 posted on 05/09/2006 8:16:22 PM PDT by Trinity5
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To: Arthalion
Seriously? I don't think I've ever had more than 500 rounds in the safe, and I probably only have about 150 right now. What the heck do you shoot that burns so much ammo?

It's not that you will necessarily shoot so much ammo all the time (although it pays to sty in practice). Rather it's what you can do with it when the shite hits the fan.

First you will need plenty ammo because it will be hard to find. Second, ammo will become more valuable than money ... e.g. trade a few rounds for a loaf of bread or a baloney sandwich.

37 posted on 05/09/2006 8:17:57 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: Blue Jays
Its illogical to ban hollowpoints in any case. If anything they are no more dangerous than any other kind of bullet. Maybe even less dangerous in the case of criminals vs law enforcement. FMJ bullets penetrate and can pass through bullet proof vests in some cases. Hollow points explode on hard targets, and allot of times wont even go through a wall.

The only thing a hollow points does better than an FMJ is to stop a single person. The wounds look worse and thats what apparently prompted these dumb politicians to do what they did. Reminds me of how a bayonet and flash suppressor were considered characteristics of an "assault weapon" in the 1994 ban.
38 posted on 05/09/2006 8:18:08 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Firefigher NC

I've often wondered how one man can shoot 1200 rounds all at once. I'll lurk this thread so maybe someone can brainwash me.


39 posted on 05/09/2006 8:20:29 PM PDT by groanup (Shred For Ian)
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To: Arthalion
It's not so much what you have in the safe, it's ... what you have in the safe :-)

Going out with the Remington 30.06 every once in awhile probably needs 150 rds or so in storage. That probably would get expensive stocking up.

The FUN stuff, full-auto or not, would be the .223, 7.62x39 and the 7.62x54. Rifles can be cheap and ammo is even cheaper.

40 posted on 05/09/2006 8:21:01 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ICE, ICE Baby.)
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To: groanup

All you need is a high capacity magazine. ;>)


41 posted on 05/09/2006 8:21:58 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Arthalion
I've had good luck with THESE GUYS. Shipping is remarkably cheap. Don't buy the Wolf ammo, though. IMHO.
42 posted on 05/09/2006 8:22:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

See www.ammoman.com also. They are in NJ btw.


43 posted on 05/09/2006 8:23:17 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Firefigher NC
Seriously, the guy who wrote this is named MICHAELANGELO. I might take him a little more seriously if he called himself "Mike", but then again...
44 posted on 05/09/2006 8:23:34 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: driftdiver

---Hollowpoints are illegal in NJ.---

These people are basically morons and deserve whatever they get.


45 posted on 05/09/2006 8:23:37 PM PDT by claudiustg (Build a fence. They won't come.)
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To: Billthedrill

What's wrong with Wolf?


46 posted on 05/09/2006 8:24:23 PM PDT by Firefigher NC
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To: Firefigher NC

1200 rounds...is that all...I've got just over 12,000 rounds in my garage. I'm not even sure how much I have stashed in the closets of my house and in my gun cabinets. LOL.


47 posted on 05/09/2006 8:24:26 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Firefigher NC

Who are those guys on obscure TV channels selling all sorts of surplus knives at ridiculous prices?


48 posted on 05/09/2006 8:25:29 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Gordongekko909
Ted Kennedy is calling for restrictions on the sale of all of those items as we speak.

And yet, Jersey continues to go solidly Democrat. My wife is from Jersey; her uncle (a union member) who still lives in Jersey and owns firearms literally asked me "What do you need a gun for, you've got the police don't you?" And then I said "ow, my brain hurts because I can not literally dumb myself down to the level needed to provide a response to that question." But its this mindset that is eventually going to turn NJ into a haven for criminals (some parts already are).

49 posted on 05/09/2006 8:25:49 PM PDT by takeemout (God Bless Jesse Helms!)
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To: Firefigher NC

You have FReepmail.


50 posted on 05/09/2006 8:26:19 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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