NJ: Weapons cache seized at home in Greenville

NJ.com ^ | May 9, 2005 | MICHAELANGELO CONTE

[Firefigher NC]

An arsenal of exotic weapons - including a sniper rifle, a spear and a set of 8-inch metal claws - were seized from a 23-year-old Jersey City man after his worried father called cops. When South District cops responded to the Greenville home yesterday morning, they found the sniper rifle - with a powerful scope and a laser sight - as well as three Glock handguns and more than 1,200 rounds of ammunition, reports said. Among the bullets were illegal "hollow-point" rounds, police said. In addition to the spear and metal claws, cops found a number of savage-looking knives, including one that had blades coming out of each end of its carved wooden handle. The owner of the weapons lived with his father, his brother and two younger brothers, police said.

[Firefigher NC]

Wow, a scoped rifle, some handguns, and knives are now a threatening 'arsenal.' Also, how can this author make hollow points sound exotic and unknown? Just seems like something everybody would know about.

[dead]

He was more heavily armed than Canada.

[Sender]

It's a stockpile, I tell ya! It sure sounds menacing. Better report anyone with a rifle to authorities. Ditto for knives. Better lock em up.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Don't forget that these weren't ordinary guns and knives...these were savage looking weapons.

[Sarajevo]

Yeah, but how about the Klingon Ninja's "metal claws and savage-looking knives, including one that had blades coming out of each end of its carved wooden handle".

I wonder where I can get one of those....:-)

[Mr. Lucky]

Jeez, sounds like my kid's bedroom.

[Arthalion]

I can only imagine how the press would report MY...ummm...collection. I'll bet my claymore would warrant an entire paragraph :)

[Porterville]

So my chainsaw, rake, rotozip, hammer, powerdrill, band saw, recipricating saw, hacksaw... are all potentialy a frightning weapons cache to NJ police? Makes me sick how the pussies are taking over.

[KoRn]

Did he commit any crimes?

[Gordongekko909]

Ted Kennedy is calling for restrictions on the sale of all of those items as we speak.

[Firefigher NC]

As I type, my machete is laying on the desk beside my computer that my brother was using to clear away some brush. Wonder what the liberal weenies would think of that?

[KoRn]

"Among the bullets were illegal "hollow-point" rounds"

I overlooked that. LOL You can't own hollowpoints in NJ? I have several handgun mags full of them!

[Firefigher NC]

"Did he commit any crimes?"

Nope, just made his father feel uncomfortable. What a pussy.

[SittinYonder]

Also, how can this author make hollow points sound exotic and unknown?

LOL. I have 11 hollow points strapped to my ankle right now. You know, 1 in the chamber and 10 in the magazine.

[RKV]

ONLY 1200 rounds? Cripes, what a lightweight. Illegal hollowpoints? KMRIA.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Sword or landmine?

[Gator113]

That is some very scary stuff!!!

You should see all the "savage-looking" things that my Bride has in the kitchen!!!

[stylin19a]

The man had been licensed to own the guns, but he isn't allowed to keep them under the court order, reports said.

scratchin my head...has to be more to this story than this article.

[VeniVidiVici]

ONLY 1200 rounds? Cripes, what a lightweight

Maybe he was down to his last thousand. ;-)

That reminds me; I need to go off and order some more.

[gafusa]

Thoughtcrime certainly. Seriously, 4 guns is a "cache" B.S! I have 2 and a K-bar in my trunk. I guess my car would a mobile arsenal by their definition. I too collect "exotic" weapons, ie, knives, swords, etc, probably a good percentage on FR do as well. Fortunately I do not live in the People's Republic of NJ. Plus he was 23, he has a right to own those weapons.

[Blue Jays]

Hi All-

Q: What does one call two guns laying side-by-side inside a gunvault in NJ?
A: An arsenal

They really do have a few screws loose in the state of New Jersey these days. The legalities surrounding hollowpoint cartridges is among the most misquoted and mistaken topics out there. There is a reason the signs leading to Pennsylvania used to say something like, "Welcome to Pennsylvania, America Starts Here!"

~ Blue Jays ~

[Billthedrill]

Hollowpoints stored as he did are legal even in New Jersey. SOURCE. Scroll down a bit to subsection f(2).

I sure hope his Pop never gets a glance at my knick-knack credenza. He'd wet his pants.

[stimpy17]

The problem was the spear was full, auto class III.

Good Gravy! NJ was strange when I lived there 25 years ago.

[demlosers]

MICHAELANGELO CONTE,

you're a...

[driftdiver]

"I overlooked that. LOL You can't own hollowpoints in NJ? I have several handgun mags full of them!"

Hollowpoints are illegal in NJ.

[Arthalion]

ROFL! Sword. The mines may be fun for taking out burglars, but picking up the leftover bits is a little gross.

Of course, burglars entering my house wouldn't meet my claymore anyway. That's what double aught is for :)

[RKV]

PLEASE, don't even get CLOSE to your last 1000 rounds. Remember to BE PREPARED. Personally, I go ammo shopping when I get near 3000 (including my .22 LR stash).

[Blue Jays]

Hi driftdriver-

Please read the hyperlink above. Hollowpoints are not illegal across the board. You can also check packing.org for additional information.

~ Blue Jays ~

[Arthalion]

Seriously? I don't think I've ever had more than 500 rounds in the safe, and I probably only have about 150 right now. What the heck do you shoot that burns so much ammo?

Of course, there are so few gun stores around here that our prices are a bit outrageous. I'd go broke storing a few thousand rounds away.

[RKV]

"the spear was full, auto class III"
You owe me a new keyboard. That line made me laugh so hard I spilled my coffee.

[JillValentine]

Four guns are an arsenal now! Wow!

I have six guns. Would that qualify as a large arsenal?

If they find .223 rounds, will the media call them "Very High Powered" like they did during the D.C. sniper shootings?

[Sarajevo]

You forgot to mention the greasegun, caulking gun, soldering gun, and lawnmower:-)

[zgirl]

There has to be more to this story than the article says. While it chaps me to no end to hear the MSM call his collection a "cache" of "exotic" weapons, I am going to give the father (it is HIS house) the benefit of the doubt. He does live with this young man (and his younger siblings) and perhaps he had reason to fear for his and/or his children's safety. Not enough information to know. As far as the weapons confiscation, at least here it is standard language in a restraining order to restrict the person's access to weapons. Actually makes sense if a restraining order is being used to "protect" an innocent....but that's a whole other thread!!

[brazzaville]

Good evening.
"...cops found a number of savage-looking knives,"

I don't know about the rest of you but I feel much safer knowing there are fewer savage-looking knives on the street.

Michael Frazier

[RKV]

Not that I go through it quickly, but I do buy in bulk to cut costs (save about a third that way). It stores for a long time, too. Also, remember - the time when you really need ammo, you won't be able to buy it. .22LR will do for money if things get really TARFU'ed. Do yourself a favor and up your ammodump. Walmart sells good stuff at a reasonable prices, and you can find them just about anywhere.

[Trinity5]

"Seriously? I don't think I've ever had more than 500 rounds in the safe, and I probably only have about 150 right now. What the heck do you shoot that burns so much ammo?"

What? Heck one brick of .22LR is 500 rounds. Ever go out a shoot a AR-15? AK? FAL? I usually have well over 10,000 rounds myself, not including my side business which stocks WAY more.

[suijuris]

Seriously? I don't think I've ever had more than 500 rounds in the safe, and I probably only have about 150 right now. What the heck do you shoot that burns so much ammo?

It's not that you will necessarily shoot so much ammo all the time (although it pays to sty in practice). Rather it's what you can do with it when the shite hits the fan.

First you will need plenty ammo because it will be hard to find. Second, ammo will become more valuable than money ... e.g. trade a few rounds for a loaf of bread or a baloney sandwich.

[KoRn]

Its illogical to ban hollowpoints in any case. If anything they are no more dangerous than any other kind of bullet. Maybe even less dangerous in the case of criminals vs law enforcement. FMJ bullets penetrate and can pass through bullet proof vests in some cases. Hollow points explode on hard targets, and allot of times wont even go through a wall.

The only thing a hollow points does better than an FMJ is to stop a single person. The wounds look worse and thats what apparently prompted these dumb politicians to do what they did. Reminds me of how a bayonet and flash suppressor were considered characteristics of an "assault weapon" in the 1994 ban.

[groanup]

I've often wondered how one man can shoot 1200 rounds all at once. I'll lurk this thread so maybe someone can brainwash me.

[VeniVidiVici]

It's not so much what you have in the safe, it's ... what you have in the safe :-)

Going out with the Remington 30.06 every once in awhile probably needs 150 rds or so in storage. That probably would get expensive stocking up.

The FUN stuff, full-auto or not, would be the .223, 7.62x39 and the 7.62x54. Rifles can be cheap and ammo is even cheaper.

[RKV]

All you need is a high capacity magazine. ;>)

[Billthedrill]

I've had good luck with THESE GUYS. Shipping is remarkably cheap. Don't buy the Wolf ammo, though. IMHO.

[RKV]

See www.ammoman.com also. They are in NJ btw.

[Eagles6]

Seriously, the guy who wrote this is named MICHAELANGELO. I might take him a little more seriously if he called himself "Mike", but then again...

[claudiustg]

---Hollowpoints are illegal in NJ.---

These people are basically morons and deserve whatever they get.

[Firefigher NC]

What's wrong with Wolf?

[I got the rope]

1200 rounds...is that all...I've got just over 12,000 rounds in my garage. I'm not even sure how much I have stashed in the closets of my house and in my gun cabinets. LOL.

[DTogo]

Who are those guys on obscure TV channels selling all sorts of surplus knives at ridiculous prices?

[takeemout]

Ted Kennedy is calling for restrictions on the sale of all of those items as we speak.

And yet, Jersey continues to go solidly Democrat. My wife is from Jersey; her uncle (a union member) who still lives in Jersey and owns firearms literally asked me "What do you need a gun for, you've got the police don't you?" And then I said "ow, my brain hurts because I can not literally dumb myself down to the level needed to provide a response to that question." But its this mindset that is eventually going to turn NJ into a haven for criminals (some parts already are).

[Billthedrill]

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