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Edwards defends choice to mention Cheney's gay daughter in debate
Associated Press and Charlotte Observer ^ | May 10, 2006 | BETH FOUHY

Posted on 05/10/2006 3:25:14 PM PDT by Peach

John Edwards defended his decision to mention the sexual orientation of Vice President Dick Cheney's openly gay daughter in a 2004 debate, rejecting Mary Cheney's criticism in a newly released book.

Attending a labor rally in New York on Wednesday, Edwards, a former North Carolina senator, was asked about Mary Cheney's comments about the 2004 Democratic vice presidential nominee. In her book, "Now It's My Turn," Cheney called Edwards a "total slime" and argued that he tried to use her sexual orientation as a political tool against her father.

She said she mouthed an expletive after Edwards praised the Cheney family during the October 2004 debate for their willingness "to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter."

Edwards said Wednesday that he stood by the comments.

"What I did was express my respect and admiration for the way the Cheney family, along with millions of other families, have embraced members of their family, and if I remember the vice president was very gracious in reacting to that," Edwards said. "I think it was appropriate."

During the debate, moderator Gwen Ifill asked Vice President Cheney about his comments that "freedom means freedom for everybody" and whether that was consistent with the Bush administration's support for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

Cheney repeated his comments on freedom and added, "People ought to be free to choose any arrangement they want. It's really no one else's business." He said that was a separate question from government sanction of a union.

That prompted Edwards to mention the Cheneys' daughter and how they deserve respect for being willing to talk about her.

After additional Edwards' comments on gay marriage and civil unions, the vice president said, "Let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter. I appreciate that very much."

In recent months, Edwards has traveled the country as a vocal anti-poverty advocate while contemplating a possible 2008 presidential bid. He refused on Wednesday to say whether he had made a decision about a possible candidacy, saying only that he is "seriously thinking about it."


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: breckboy; cheney; dyke; edwards; homosexualagenda; marycheney; nowitsmyturn; selfishhedonist; totalslime
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1 posted on 05/10/2006 3:25:17 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

What a turd. Only a supreme coward would bring up sensative family issues of his political opponent in a forum where the opponent couldn't drag his ass outside and beat the breck out of him for insulting his dignity.


2 posted on 05/10/2006 3:29:04 PM PDT by Frenetic
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To: Peach

Looks like the "uber-tolerant" uber-liberal Breck Girl still doesnt have the decency to say: "I'm sorry."

No surprise there.


3 posted on 05/10/2006 3:29:58 PM PDT by UncleSamUSA (the land of the free and the home of the brave)
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To: Peach
(Mary)Cheney called Edwards a "total slime" and argued that he tried to use her sexual orientation as a political tool against her father.

Well, who else would know what is best for Mary Cheney then an elitist leftist snob?

Of course people should not be allowed to formulate their own thoughts, that what the democrats are for.

4 posted on 05/10/2006 3:30:37 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: Frenetic

Exactly. Alan Keyes did something similar and it was pretty outrageous.


5 posted on 05/10/2006 3:30:43 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
Cheney called Edwards a "total slime" and argued that he tried to use her sexual orientation as a political tool against her father.

Bless her heart!

6 posted on 05/10/2006 3:31:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Peach

One of the first things mama taught me was, "Never trust an ambulance chaser. They are liars."


7 posted on 05/10/2006 3:31:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Remember the Alamo!)
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To: Peach

I know three people whose vote swung our way because of Edwards tasteless stunt in the Vice Presidential debate. Thank you Johnny.


8 posted on 05/10/2006 3:31:42 PM PDT by andrew2527
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To: Peach

The Breck Girl is so 2004. He didn't defend her then, and he isn't defending her now. His comment then was basically used to paint the VP into a corner, only Cheney handed Breck Girl's posterior to Breck Girl on a silver platter by answering the question directly and civilly. What business is it anyway of Breck Girl to meddle in the affairs of someone else's family?


9 posted on 05/10/2006 3:31:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: UncleSamUSA

Edwards is a metrosexual lightweight.

It always interests me that the self named "party of tolerance" is actually more racist and homophobic than any other group I can think of.


10 posted on 05/10/2006 3:32:11 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Frenetic
Only a supreme coward would bring up sensative family issues of his political opponent in a forum where the opponent couldn't drag his ass outside and beat the breck out of him for insulting his dignity.

And after HE had instructed the press that he was NOT to be questioned about his son's death!

If I ever see that little creep, I'm going to have some words with him.

11 posted on 05/10/2006 3:32:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Peach

This still makes my blood boil.


12 posted on 05/10/2006 3:33:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: andrew2527

I think Kerry and Edwards lost a lot of votes when they did this. Remember, Kerry did the same thing. They are both slimebags.


13 posted on 05/10/2006 3:33:46 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
She said she mouthed an expletive after Edwards praised the Cheney family....

Looks like she picked up a thing or two from Dad.

14 posted on 05/10/2006 3:34:01 PM PDT by edpc
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To: Peach
Cheney called Edwards a "total slime" and argued that he tried to use her sexual orientation as a political tool against her father.

I know it's wrong to make such blanket statements, but anyone who thinks otherwise is either and idiot, a liar, or both i.e. a Democrat.

I mean, there are some things we say about those in the other party that are just bashing, but this--and KERRY mentioning it, too--is so blatantly obvious.

It's like if Bush just out of the blue brought up Kerry's wife being a hag. I mean, it's true, too, but beside the point of the debate.

15 posted on 05/10/2006 3:34:06 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I am sitting out any thread that becomes an immigration thread.)
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To: Peach
"What I did was express my respect and admiration for the way the Cheney family, along with millions of other families, have embraced members of their family,

Spoken exactly like an ambulance chasing douchebag lawyer.

16 posted on 05/10/2006 3:34:10 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Peach
Edwards is a metrosexual lightweight.

A computer (a device that doesn't even recognize emotions) thought he was too feminine.

17 posted on 05/10/2006 3:34:21 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Peach
David Letterman uses Dick's daughter often in jokes about the VP.

I understand making fun of politicians - but why drag the family into it?

18 posted on 05/10/2006 3:34:51 PM PDT by llevrok (When they come to take my guns, I will give them the lead first....)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Smart mama.


19 posted on 05/10/2006 3:35:20 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Howlin

LOL. She nailed him.


20 posted on 05/10/2006 3:35:42 PM PDT by Peach
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To: llevrok

David Letterman uses Cheney's gay daughter in jokes? OMG. OMG.

It proves true to me nearly every day what I've said for years: The self named party of tolerance is actually the least tolerant group of people in the United States.


22 posted on 05/10/2006 3:36:50 PM PDT by Peach
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To: BigSkyFreeper

What??


23 posted on 05/10/2006 3:37:13 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Peach

24 posted on 05/10/2006 3:37:53 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Frenetic

whattajerk.


25 posted on 05/10/2006 3:38:06 PM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Peach

Pretty boy can explain it anyway he likes, but the bulk of Americans from all "sides" saw that cheap shot for exactly what it was.


26 posted on 05/10/2006 3:38:20 PM PDT by Pox
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To: Pox

Kerry and Edwards really overplayed their hand on that one.

And the left tries to tell us THEY would handle diplomacy better than Bush? Hah!


27 posted on 05/10/2006 3:40:25 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Howlin

Speaking of words, I was in Austin TX visiting my sister last spring when I noticed Dan Rather waiting for his plane. So I went up to him with a piece of paper and some nice words and proceeded to ask him for his autograph. He obliged and then I proceeded to blow my nose in the autograph, crumpled it up, threw it in the garbage and told him that that’s exactly what he did to journalism and his career. Some people laughed others frowned I just told him to have a nice day and boarded my plane.


28 posted on 05/10/2006 3:41:36 PM PDT by Frenetic
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To: edpc

I saw her on Fox the other day (I forget which show), and all I could think was: How refreshing it is to see a person who is gay NOT turning everything into the "Look at me I'M GAY" show. Seriously. Not just celebrities or public figures, even gay people I know in real life do this. Somehow every single conversation goes back to, "Oh, did I tell you? Yes, I'm GAY!!!!"

Why is that EVER my business???


29 posted on 05/10/2006 3:41:56 PM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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To: Frenetic

Yes. And don't forget Kerry brought this matter up too. It was obviously an orchestrated and calculated attempt to drive a wedge between social conservatives and others in the party.

If one looks at the courtroom tactics of the shyster trial lawyer, Edwards, one can't be surprised. With Kerry it was his usual excursion into gutter politics to get votes.

There's only one way of desribing both: NO CLASS!


30 posted on 05/10/2006 3:43:03 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: Howlin
There was a story a few weeks ago of this computer that determined through text only (speeches and debates from 2004) that Breck Girl and sKerry were too feminine, and that sKerry seemed depressed to the point of suicide. Bush on the other hand seemed smart, intelligent, manly and presidential, and Cheney as well was concluded by a mere piece of software to be exuding presidential and manly qualities.

It was in the WaPo several weeks ago.

31 posted on 05/10/2006 3:43:04 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Frenetic

LOL. I'll bet dollars to donuts that Rather reflects on that daily....


32 posted on 05/10/2006 3:43:30 PM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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To: Darkwolf377
It's like if Bush just out of the blue brought up Kerry's wife being a hag. I mean, it's true, too, but beside the point of the debate.

This is a really good parallel, Darkwolf..........completely accurate, but inappropriate information for the debate.

The thing that still makes me mad is that it was an obvious attempt to pull Christians away from Bush/Cheney on the basis of Cheney's daughter's homosexuality.

It stunk on a whole lot of levels............but at least it failed. It only showed that Kerry/Edwards were both even more despicable than we thought they were......

They lost votes because of this gutter level calculation.

33 posted on 05/10/2006 3:43:52 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Peach

I wonder how Edward's family felt when they found out that he was gay.


34 posted on 05/10/2006 3:44:06 PM PDT by Radix (Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
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To: Frenetic

OMG, that is priceless. I wish I had your nerve -- and originality!


35 posted on 05/10/2006 3:44:38 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Frenetic

OMG....I love your style....lmao


36 posted on 05/10/2006 3:45:36 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Frenetic
ROFLOL! That is HILARIOUS!!

Wow! Quick on your feet.........and with your nose. :)

37 posted on 05/10/2006 3:46:53 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Peach

John Who?


38 posted on 05/10/2006 3:47:04 PM PDT by EricT. (CA conservatives only serve to inflate the number of electoral votes won by the Dems.)
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To: Howlin

Please...I'm sure I'm not the only one to piss in his wheaties.


39 posted on 05/10/2006 3:47:05 PM PDT by Frenetic
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To: ohioWfan
The thing that still makes me mad is that it was an obvious attempt to pull Christians away from Bush/Cheney on the basis of Cheney's daughter's homosexuality.

I always think of that stunt when Dems bleat about "Bush isn't bringing us together."

I happen to have a live-and-let-live attitude about gays, but Kerry and Edwards' little "innocent remark" was such a BLATANT play to stir up anti-gay feeling that I often wonder, what do gays think of a candidate who would do that just to get votes?

Of course, black Americans have had to deal with this kind of things from the Democrats forever...as Mrs. Clinton would say, an' you KNOW what ahm talkin' about.

40 posted on 05/10/2006 3:47:23 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I am sitting out any thread that becomes an immigration thread.)
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To: Radix

lol! The little, silky, pony.


41 posted on 05/10/2006 3:47:44 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: ohioWfan

"Quick on your feet"

- Trust me, it took about ten minutes of mental deliberation beforehand. Had to run the senario through my head a few times to make sure I didn't come across as threatening and land myself in airport security.


42 posted on 05/10/2006 3:48:58 PM PDT by Frenetic
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To: Frenetic

Hahaha, she called him a total slime. hahaha. in print.


43 posted on 05/10/2006 3:49:50 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Howlin; Peach

Here's that WaPo article by the way: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/03/AR2006040301487.html


44 posted on 05/10/2006 3:50:10 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Oh, I remember reading that now. Thanks for finding that.


45 posted on 05/10/2006 3:52:29 PM PDT by Peach
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Scientific Studies Show: John Kerry Is Depressing

We love all the weird scientific-studies-with-political-implications that are Richard Morin’s stock-in-trade (see links collected below). In today’s Post, citing a study conducted by researchers at the University of Texas at Austin, he informs us:

Forget the Swift boat ads, the economy or international terrorism. Here’s what really may have decided the last presidential election: President Bush and Vice President Cheney sounded more presidential than their Democratic counterparts. Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.) seemed the most depressed or suicidal. And Kerry’s running mate, Sen. John Edwards (N.C.), sounded the most like a “girly man.”

Perhaps the Texas-based researchers were biased in favor of their native son. But hey, can you really argue with findings like this:

Cheney easily sounded the smartest of the four, while Edwards and Bush favored the least sophisticated language patterns…. When it came to sounding presidential, both Bush and his running mate scored considerably higher than Kerry or Edwards. Bush was the oldest-sounding candidate. Edwards also was the most likely to use feminine speech patterns and “female” words (Bush was a close second), while Cheney sounded most like a man’s man.

Cheney as a man’s man, and Edwards as a girly man? We’ve been saying this all along. The article continues:

The vice president sounded the most honest of the four, and Kerry the least. Kerry’s language also was most like that of a depressed person, followed by Edwards.

john%20f%20kerry.jpgGuys, you didn’t need to squander perfectly good grant money to tell us that John Kerry is depressed. If you had lost the 2004 election (and were married to Teresa), you’d be pretty depressed too.

Smart Talk and Girly Talk on the Campaign Trail [WP]

Earlier: Post’ Celebrates Whacking Day
John McCain: Proven Scary By Science

Post article

46 posted on 05/10/2006 3:52:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: bboop

"Hahaha, she called him a total slime. hahaha. in print."

- LOL...gotta love it. I was slappin my knee over that remark. Righteous indignation is one of my favorite backhands.


47 posted on 05/10/2006 3:53:19 PM PDT by Frenetic
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To: Howlin

I found that also, but I went to the source. lol


48 posted on 05/10/2006 3:54:28 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Howlin

What a great article! And so true. I used to get depressed just listening to him.


49 posted on 05/10/2006 3:55:22 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

I laughed throughout that article when I read it at the time, everything in that article confirmed all I knew about sKerry and The Breck Girl. LOL


50 posted on 05/10/2006 3:55:26 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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