Survivors of the bonfire being tapped into the Order of the Druids
Posted on 05/11/2006 8:04:29 AM PDT by fgoodwin
Apparently she could also have applied successfully to the Boy Scouts to have a Wiccan circle sponsor a troop.
"Pastor Doug Lewellyn"
Wasn't he the bailiff on The People's Court?
And what exactly makes you say such a hateful thing?
The two boys should still be allowed in the local Boy Scouts.
When I was in Air Force BMT, my Wingman was a Wiccan. He's not a bad person because of it. I'm Catholic and am proud of it. I thought that some of the Wiccan beliefs were silly or unusual and we talked about them, but he wasn't trying to convert me.
Regardless of his religion being radically different from mine, he was my Wingman, and we were there for each other. We helped each other when times were hard (and boy were they). Wiccan isn't for me, but I'm not going to treat one any differently than than a Jew or Protestan.
The only reason for asking what religion the boys were should have been to inform them of the Religious Awards available for Boy Scouts. He could have simply informed them that the awards are available and left literature out for them or their parents to peruse. That way no one would have been singled out for any reason. Poor judgement on the part of the leader, but if the boys who are Wiccan had never said anything about it, the leader probably thought he had his typical Christian boys in the group.
Let's be careful here. The scoutmaster's alleged request to the Wiccan scout to "lie about his faith" is a statement made in a lawsuit by somebody who wasn't there: the parent of the Wiccan scout. That parent WAS NOT THERE and has an obvious bias. Let's not condemn someone as a liar based on hearsay.
Especially if the group they joined holds religious beliefs contrary to theirs... What do they teach in school these days?
Now imagine a Christian being kicked out of an Islamic scout troop.
Biased or not, it's not hearsay - the boy's parents are quoting Doherty directly - what he said to them. Not what they heard somebody else say he said.
And where do you get the bit about the lawsuit, anyway?
Tell the Catholics that they have to accept Satanists. Tell the Baptists that they have to accept homosexual Episcopalians. Tell the LPGA that they have to accept Tiger Woods!
Sorry, but "inclusion" doesn't mean abandonment of common sense.
Survivors of the bonfire being tapped into the Order of the Druids
"Let's be careful here. The scoutmaster's alleged request to the Wiccan scout to "lie about his faith" is a statement made in a lawsuit by somebody who wasn't there: the parent of the Wiccan scout. That parent WAS NOT THERE and has an obvious bias. Let's not condemn someone as a liar based on hearsay."
True. It was 'alleged' to have been said, which means nothing until proven. OK - I agree.
I heard an interview this morning with the father. He is Christian, his wife is Wiccan (don't call it a 'made up religion' folks, it's been around longer than 'Christianity', just now in a lighter form).
Eitherway, the Boy Scouts are not a "Christian" organization and shouldn't involve religion in their meetings, especially if it means kicking them out! Morals, yes. Religion, no.
I don't get it - Capt. Buckheim says that Doherty kicked his kids out - you apparently believe that.
Capt. Buckheim also says that in the SAME PHONE call, the SAME Mr. Doherty said that they could have lied to save their position - and that's "alleged" and unproven?
What's the diff?
Christians are not supposed to be "unequally yoked" (2 Corinth 6:14) with non-Christians but it does seem to happen a lot these days.
(don't call it a 'made up religion' folks, it's been around longer than 'Christianity', just now in a lighter form).
The Romans had it right - they considered the practitioners of the Celtic religion to be the vilest of all human beings, primarily because of their practice of human sacrifice. While the Romans were not shy about shedding human blood, even for entertainment, nevertheless human sacrifice to appease gods was looked upon by them as the lowest act one human being could perform upon another. The modern "lighter form" is lipstick on a pig.
Eitherway, the Boy Scouts are not a "Christian" organization
Agreed, and the Scouts do not claim to be a Christian organization.
and shouldn't involve religion in their meetings, especially if it means kicking them out! Morals, yes. Religion, no.
I agree the believe in God ought not be overemphasized, but neither should the Scouts back off from their "God and Country" Scout law when challenged by atheists and occultists.
It is perfectly appropriate for the Scouts to exclude occultic practitioners. Yes, that means having to make distinctions, and the distinctions may be hard to make in some cases, and the distinctions may anger some people. It is the price of having principles.
They were working on God and Country. That does involve discussion and introspection on your own personal religion.
That aside, maybe the leaders should have acted differently and maybe the parents should be aware of what God and Country entails and how it would be presented. The books are out there and it is no secret.
Everyone involved was knee-jerking all over the place. But the end result may be for the best. If Mom can't fully support the Troop anymore then she did the right thing by starting her own group. Her kids learned a valuable lesson of empowerment. In America we don't have to stay in a situation we dislike. We can make our own niche. What a great country!
It is a made up religion. It could be 10,000 years old. It is still made up!
>>>(don't call it a 'made up religion' folks, it's been around longer than 'Christianity', just now in a lighter form)
It is a made up religion. It could be 10,000 years old. It is still made up!>>>
As is any other religion by that logic.
I would like to see Doherty confirm the statement.
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