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Minutemen hit D.C.
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 12,2006

Posted on 05/12/2006 4:32:36 AM PDT by Man50D

Members of the Minuteman Project will stage a rally at the U.S. Capitol today to celebrate the end of a cross-country caravan meant to protest the flow of illegal aliens across the border.

"This is a Trojan horse – a covert invasion," Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, said of illegal immigration.

The caravan began in Los Angeles May 3, and participants have been holding rallies in several states along the way. The caravan's "official pace car" is a 1970 Mercury Cougar dubbed "The Spirit Of Allegiance."

The final rally is scheduled for 11 a.m. today at the park on the Senate side of the Capitol.

Prominent national speakers at the kick-off rally in L.A. included WND columnist Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, the founder and president of BOND – the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and social activist Ted Hayes.

Addressing the rally, Peterson commented, "Illegal immigration is having a devastating effect on the black community. African Americans are being put out of jobs and out of homes."

A rally also occurred May 6 in Crawford, Texas, home to President Bush's ranch.

"We are doing what the original Minutemen would have wanted us to do," Gilchrist told WND. "We are bringing the message to Washington."

According to its website, the Minuteman Project hopes to "bring national awareness to the decades-long careless disregard of effective U.S. immigration law enforcement."

A recent poll indicates concern about illegal immigration is now the No. 2 issue among Americans, next to the war in Iraq.

Gilchrist, who is being talked about as a 2008 presidential candidate, believes that by Election Day in November, "voters will show conclusively that illegal entry by foreigners on U.S. soil and the issue of 'guest worker amnesty' is at least as important to the American people as the war in Iraq."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aiens; aztlan; borderlist; caravan; illegalimmigrants; minuteman; minutemen; reconquista; washingtondc
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1 posted on 05/12/2006 4:32:38 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D; doug from upland

Bump


2 posted on 05/12/2006 4:34:33 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Man50D

Hmmmm. I wonder how Gilchrist feels about the Fair Tax?


3 posted on 05/12/2006 4:36:34 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: ovrtaxt
Hmmmm. I wonder how Gilchrist feels about the Fair Tax?

Good question! He may support it given that illegals would have to pay taxes with the Fair Tax.
4 posted on 05/12/2006 4:43:21 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: ovrtaxt

LOL.

Good Luck to the efforts of Gilchrist and the Minutemen. Whichever way this disaster goes they will always be honored and remembered and probably be mentioned in the history books.

They are doing a great thing for this Nation and that is why they have been so abused by so many.

The fear that their precious globalism multiculturism may not survive have made the open border socialist go bunkers against those that see the future and don't want it to happen in the way that the globalists and socialists and marxists are advocating it must go.

Think I am blowing smoke? Read this again and again till you ALL get it:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/823368/posts
Socialists, marxists win when there is rampant extremism and importing of illegals to multiply it.


5 posted on 05/12/2006 4:44:03 AM PDT by stopem (America is NOT Fox's employment agency!! Butt out Vincente.)
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To: Man50D

"The final rally is scheduled for 11 a.m. today at the park on the Senate side of the Capitol. "

It's not on the C-SPAN schedule but I received the following in their daily email:

* Minute Man Rally (11am) - LIVE


6 posted on 05/12/2006 4:50:53 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Man50D; ovrtaxt
He may support it given that illegals would have to pay taxes with the Fair Tax.

He's trying to stop illegal immigration, not tax it.

I doubt he'd favor a NRST because it is a tax that subsidizes free trade. Free trade is the reciprocal of open borders.

I bet Gilchrist would support tariffs, however because he's a patriot, not a globalist.

7 posted on 05/12/2006 5:18:46 AM PDT by Nephi (A vote for amnesty is a vote to impeach George W. Nixon)
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To: Nephi
"I doubt he'd favor a NRST because it is a tax that subsidizes free trade. Free trade is the reciprocal of open borders.

Hmmm will have to look into endorsing the idea of NRST, never thought of it that way.

8 posted on 05/12/2006 5:46:11 AM PDT by stopem (America is NOT Fox's employment agency!! Butt out Vincente.)
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To: Nephi

Actually, it taxes retail sales and untaxes everything else- including foreign owned businesses that want to relocate to America and hire skilled citizens.


9 posted on 05/12/2006 6:04:11 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Man50D
DAY 10 THREAD
10 posted on 05/12/2006 7:21:17 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: leadpenny; kristinn

Just saw Kristinn in the crowd!

On cspan 1.


11 posted on 05/12/2006 8:13:07 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell

Ya know, I even posted on this thread earlier. Bad case of CRS this morning. I'll try to get the other thread pulled.


12 posted on 05/12/2006 8:20:12 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
BUILD THE WALL NOW
13 posted on 05/12/2006 8:24:29 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: texasbluebell

There is a requirement to have a demo permit if you have more than 25 people. I'll bet Kristinn is raising a little hell with the Capitol Hill Police about the counter demonstrators.


14 posted on 05/12/2006 8:25:05 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
I'll bet Kristinn is raising a little hell with the Capitol Hill Police about the counter demonstrators.

I really hope so.

15 posted on 05/12/2006 8:26:43 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Pyro7480

Knowing Kristinn, he's probably on the list of speakers.


16 posted on 05/12/2006 8:28:41 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: yellowdoghunter
On the other thread now.

Jim Gilchrist - Talking about the corruption and dereliction of duty by present politicians, and he mentioned that the real racists are those people assembled behind the Minutemen. He told them to "Go to hell." (Loved it). He said the Minutement will survive despite the rascist scum! (Hee hee).

17 posted on 05/12/2006 8:39:52 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: leadpenny
Love the Minutemen. They had better get better at running a rally.
18 posted on 05/12/2006 8:43:44 AM PDT by AGreatPer (Better Living Through Government Interference - Democrats)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Gilchrist does not like the pending Immigration Bill. He says it is a disguesed amnesty. He is talking about the right of self-governance. A nation under the rule of law, as opposed to a nation under mob rule. The illegals have assembled not to uphold their own rights, but to strip us of OUR rights!

Hecklers yelling at him "you forgot your hood."

Gilchrist saying we don't have the resources to deal with every country's poverty.

Gilchrist saying that once the Senate ok's the bill essentially granting amnest to the 30 million illegasl already here, it will open the door to many more millions.

19 posted on 05/12/2006 8:45:40 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Man50D
Quote that will hurt the project, Barbara Coe,"we are an aging white America".

They need to be a careful with some of their speakers because some have a different agenda that may go beyond just the immigration issue.
20 posted on 05/12/2006 8:49:36 AM PDT by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
BarryWeinstein

We are being overwhelmed by a population coming here illegally, and everything after that is fruit of the poisoned tree.

Urges avoiding tourism to the States of Senators who are soft on enforcing immigration.

21 posted on 05/12/2006 8:49:51 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Ray Herrera

Became a carpenter in 1976 after coming back from Viet Nam. Made 1,000 dollars a week. Says white American employers hired cheap labor, and he and his family has suffered economically because of it.

22 posted on 05/12/2006 8:54:27 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Man50D

23 posted on 05/12/2006 8:59:06 AM PDT by mcar
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To: yellowdoghunter
Ted Hayes:

Black homeless activist who supports the Minutemen. They stand with Gilchrist and all Americans. "These colors do not run."

This invasion of our nation is a direct threat to black people in this country. It is the greatest threat to black people since slavery. The illegals are being abused by a culture of corruption south of the border, and flee north to be enslaved by substandard wages. Blacks have been slaves, and won't be slaves again, and won't allow the mexical illegals to be slaves either. Can't allow the invasion to continue - in rememberance of the civil war dead.

Talking about how the La Raza and Aztlan ancestors sacrificed people by taking out their hearts. Says that Sharpton and Jackson are also ripping out the hearts of Americans.

"Power to the Minutement."

24 posted on 05/12/2006 9:00:48 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Man50D

When did it become 30 million illegal immigrants? Last I heard it was 8-12 million.


25 posted on 05/12/2006 9:05:17 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: leadpenny

The counter demonstrators finally quieted down, not sure if they were moved back or what happened.

Good turn-out for the MM rally, I thought.

Ted Hayes, the homeless activist, provided a lot of interesting comments too.

Gilchrest taking questions now, calling for the prosecution of the "slave-traders".


26 posted on 05/12/2006 9:06:55 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Wasanother
Quote that will hurt the project, Barbara Coe,"we are an aging white America".

She was quoting pro-illegal alien extremists I believe:

This is a statement by José Angel Gutiérrez, then an Associate Professor of Political Science at the University of Texas at Arlington (and a former leader of the La Raza Unida political party) at a Latino conference held at the University of California, Riverside on 14 January 1995, regarding the effects of California's recently-passed Proposition 187 ballot measure (which sought to bar illegal immigrants from public education and other social services provided by the state):

"The border remains a military zone. We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in this land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years, and we're a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights! What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male! This is our homeland. We cannot, we will not, and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not im-mi-grants that came from another country to another country; we are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. It's a matter of time. [laughter] The explosion is in our population.

Audio of that statement

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This is a statement given by Art Torres, a former California State Assembly member and State Senator, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, at the UC Riverside conference referenced above:

It is an honor to be with the new leadership of the Americas, here meeting at UC Riverside. So with 187 on the ballot, what is it going to take for our people to vote, to see us walking into the gas ovens? It is electoral power that is going to make the determination of where we go as a community. And power is not given to you; you have to take it. Remember: 187 is the last gasp of white America in California. Understand that. And people say to me on the Senate floor when I was in the Senate, 'Why do you fight so hard for affirmative action programs?' And I tell my white colleagues, 'because you're going to need them' [laughter].

Audio of that statement

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The is a statement by Augustin Cebada of the Brown Berets de Aztlán, a paramilitary offshoot of the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán (MEChA), delivered during a Fourth of July rally held outside the Federal Building in Westwood, California, in 1996:

"We're here today to show L.A., show the minority people here, the Anglo-Saxons, that we are here, the majority, we're here to stay. We do the work in this city, we take care of the spoiled brat children, we clean their offices, we pick the food, we do the manufacturing in the factories of L.A., we are the majority here, and we are not going to be pushed around. "

"We're here in Westwood, this is the fourth time we've been here in the last two months, to show white Anglo-Saxon Protestant L.A., the few of you who remain, that we are the majority, and we claim this land as ours, it's always been ours, and we're still here, and uh, none of this talk about deporting. If anybody's going to be deported it's going to be you. "

"[SHOUTING] Go back to Simi Valley, you skunks! Go back to Woodland Hills! Go back to Boston! Go back to the Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You're old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you; leave like beaten rats. "

"You old white people, it is your duty to die. Even their own ethicists say that they should die; that they have a duty to die. They're taking up too much space, too much air."

"We are the majority in L.A. There's over seven million Mexicans in L.A. County alone. We are the majority. And you're going to see every day more and more of it, as we ... we manifest as our young people grow up, graduate from high school, go on to college and start taking over this society. Our people ... are ... the vast majority of our people are under the age of 15 years old. Right now we're already controlling those elections, whether it's through violence or nonviolence. Through love of having children we are gonna take over. "

Audio of that statement

27 posted on 05/12/2006 9:07:14 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: tobyhill

8 to 12 million is the "official" govt figure, which is thought to be white-washing of the true figures.

I've seen upwards of 20 million which was given by Bear Stearns, I believe.

No one really has an accurate figure, it could be higher.


28 posted on 05/12/2006 9:09:02 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: yellowdoghunter
Gilchrest saying that we are going to have amnesty shoved down our throat.

The Sensenbrenner bill will allow 30 million illegals to stay here, and then more will come. It will result in a couple of hundred million illegals.

The bill will only work if it is funded for enforcement to put the "slave traders" under the law, and put them in jail. (Slave traders = those who hire illegals.)

Illegal immigration affects black Americans because they take jobs from black Americans. The illegals work for no benefits, and the employer laughs all the way to the bank. This helps put stress on the middle class.

Urges Congress to do the right thing.

There is an ongoing terrorism threat because the nation does not "respect" its borders. You cannot guarantee security, democracy, and freedom abroad if you cannot guarantee it at home. (Quoting Edward R. Murrow)

Predicts a 2 decade tsunami invasion of illegals if this bill is passed. Says law enforcement will be overwhelmed. Also suggests that the White House may be occupied by a party other than Republicans and Democrats (Minutemen Party - hee hee)

Adversaries are funded by Ford foundation, La raza, supplying buses to bring people in, funded by Georg eSoros. Minutement is funded by citizens. Minutemen are trying to preserve a nation.

Predicts that a politician who supports deportation will get at least 40% support.

Says the opposition has thrown bricks at old ladies.

Says 70% are journalists are jaded and biased.

29 posted on 05/12/2006 9:14:40 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: texasbluebell

8-12 million is a large number anyway and 20 million is still within a very high range but sometimes, like 30 million, seems like it's going beyond the range that actually turns off the positive impression of what's trying to be accomplished.


30 posted on 05/12/2006 9:15:52 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Man50D
Just tuned in, missed most of it...


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31 posted on 05/12/2006 9:18:11 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Wasanother; yellowdoghunter

I couldn't type fast enough to get Coe's comments. The gist of it seemed to be that she was quoting someone else who said that it is the duty of old white people to die. I'll have to wait until there is a repeat to see if I can get it more accurately.


32 posted on 05/12/2006 9:24:27 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Man50D

"No one is illegal, Minutemen are evil."


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Well, isn't that wonderful. They come here illegally invading our sovereignty, and they call good American citizens, grouped in the tradition that formed this great Nation, evil.


33 posted on 05/12/2006 9:25:49 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Man50D

MM need to begin a refrain of "Remember the Alamo!"


That would incite a few responses.


lol


34 posted on 05/12/2006 9:27:45 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: tobyhill

When you consider that last year alone, 1.2 million were caught and turned back, and that for every one that is caught, 2 or 3 get in undetected, last year there may have been 3 million new illegals added to the number.

That's been going on for years.

I'm not so sure it's not close to 30 million.

In any case, no one really has any idea.

Even if it's "only" 8 to 12 million, when each of those is given amnesty, they become anchors to bring in their family members.

10 million x 5 or more family members? How can we assimilate 50 million or more people in a short time, especially since many of them don't want to be assimilated?

The nation is rapidly becoming balkanized, and will pull apart at the seams.


35 posted on 05/12/2006 9:27:58 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Enterprise

Why hasn't the media asked the people supporting the ILLEGALs, where they are from and who has paid them to be there. Notice, it appears, not many Hispanics are protesting with those supporting the ILLEGALs.


36 posted on 05/12/2006 9:28:19 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: Pyro7480; leadpenny; kristinn

It seemed that the police did a piss poor job by allowing the pro-illegals to be so close to the rally. Later it seemed that they were quieter. Hoping for an update from Kristinn when he is able to do so.


37 posted on 05/12/2006 9:29:03 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Enterprise; Wasanother
Quote that will hurt the project, Barbara Coe,"we are an aging white America".

That wasn't her own quote, she was quoting that nutty hispanic professor in Texas. I may or may not have the quote somewhere with his name attached. Will try to find.

38 posted on 05/12/2006 9:30:17 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Enterprise

Thanks for the updates. Quite interesting. The MM are true Patriots!


39 posted on 05/12/2006 9:30:56 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: texasbluebell
30 million is over 1/10th of the population and people who live in their little cocoon communities can not possibly imagine that many so what might really be an issue for them on a smaller scale gets turned off by their perception of exaggeration.
40 posted on 05/12/2006 9:31:40 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: 4integrity

I wouldn't realistically expect the lamestream media to get to the truth of who is giving financial support to the pro-illegals.


41 posted on 05/12/2006 9:31:59 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Enterprise; Wasanother

Here it is:

Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas: "We have an aging white
America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our
population . . . I love it. They are s___ing in their pants with fear. I
love it."


42 posted on 05/12/2006 9:32:32 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: TomGuy
This is amazing. Truly historic.

The very day that the Minuteman Project - who has done more than any organization to call attention to the terrible problems on our border - rolls into D.C. with their caravan and rally is the same day that President Bush - who called them vigilantes a year ago - announces a speech on immigration that will (according to Drudge) include a call to put the National Guard on the border.

This is EXACTLY why the Minuteman Project was formed. Observe, report, and call attention to the problem until the Federal Government will do something to secure the border.

I am damned proud to be a Minuteman today. I can't wait to hear what the President has to say on Monday. I hope that he finally got the message and that he means to actually secure the border this time and not just put on a show to placate his base through the November election period.

43 posted on 05/12/2006 9:33:30 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: texasbluebell
Here it is:

See Post #27. The actual quote is there. Your quote is a little bit off from what he really said. Although the version you have is widely reported, it isn't accurate.

44 posted on 05/12/2006 9:35:26 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Enterprise
It seemed that the police did a piss poor job by allowing the pro-illegals to be so close to the rally. Later it seemed that they were quieter.

That was my perception too. At first, I was thinking that some of the media were using their mikes to magnify the counter-protestors' shouts, maybe not, but I wouldn't be surprised...the shouting was too loud just for that small group of antis.

I did see some bullhorns back there later.

45 posted on 05/12/2006 9:35:55 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell
Thank you. She had quoted someone else who said something to the effect that they will control our Government either through votes or violence.

Anyway, as I remember her comment, it was not one where she was suggesting a racial fear of the illegals by an aging white population.

46 posted on 05/12/2006 9:37:00 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Spiff

Thanks for that, I had copied it from someone else's post some time ago.

Will hang onto yours.


47 posted on 05/12/2006 9:37:05 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Enterprise; Spiff

Be sure to read post 44 by Spiff, which has the accurate quote.


48 posted on 05/12/2006 9:37:55 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell

I saw at least one bullhorn with one of the pro-illegals and I wondered if there were more. In the future, the police should not allow that. But then, it shouldn't have been allowed this time either!


49 posted on 05/12/2006 9:39:12 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Enterprise
He is talking about the right of self-governance.

Finally, someone gets it! What this issue is really about is very simple: Who gets to decide how we will deal with illegal immigration -- the people or the ruling elites? No other public policy issue demonstrates so clearly and so nakedly what is at stake here. This battle of the people against the politicians and their globalist minded handlers is about whether we still have a republican form of government in which the people are sovereign or whether we have a dictatorship of an oligarchic elite.

The minuteman phenomenon has the makings of a political movement with Gilchrist as its leader. When both major parties conspire against the will of the people, it is time for a major realignment of our political landscape. We desparately need a permanent political party in this country that understands and supports the political theory of republican self-government. Such a political movement will draw support from both parties and perhaps would displace one of the existing major political parties.

In the mid 1800's disagreement over the slavery issue birthed the Republican party and sunk the Whigs. Perhaps this fight over illegal immigrations will cause as profound a political realignment. It will certainly be a test of whether "we the people" care enough about our right to govern ourselves to actually organize and work to support a political movement to restore and defend these rights

50 posted on 05/12/2006 9:39:14 AM PDT by politeia
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