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Bush to Speak About Immigration on Monday , 5/15/06
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/12/06 | Terence Hunt - ap

Posted on 05/12/2006 7:31:27 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - President Bush plans to address the nation Monday night on the immigration debate, trying to build momentum for legislation that could provide millions of illegal immigrants a chance to become American citizens.

The White House said it was seeking time from television networks for the president's remarks.

"This is crunch time," Tony Snow, the new White House press secretary said Friday at his first off-camera, or informal, briefing.

On Thursday, Senate leaders reached a deal to revive a broad immigration bill that had appeared doomed just several weeks ago.

Key to the agreement is who will be negotiating a compromise with the House, which last December passed an enforcement-only bill that would subject the estimated 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States to felony charges as well as deportation.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said the Senate will send 14 Republicans and 12 Democrats to negotiate with the House, with seven of the Republicans and five Democrats coming from the Judiciary Committee. The remaining seven Republicans will be chosen by Frist and remaining seven Democrats chosen by Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.


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US President George W. Bush waves as he walks to Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, DC. on May 11. The United States must talk directly to Iran about its disputed nuclear programme because Tehran will not negotiate seriously if Washington is not involved, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan said.(AFP/Mandel Ngan)


1 posted on 05/12/2006 7:31:30 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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plans to address the nation Monday night on the immigration debate, trying to build momentum for legislation that could provide millions of illegal immigrants a chance to become American citizens.

Waste of time, we are not buying it. He still doesn't get it.


2 posted on 05/12/2006 7:33:17 AM PDT by sheana
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To: NormsRevenge

Will it be in English?


3 posted on 05/12/2006 7:33:34 AM PDT by lormand (...the wrong person came out of the water that fateful night in Chappaquiddick)
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To: lormand

Unfortunately, that is an excellent question.


4 posted on 05/12/2006 7:35:33 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: lormand

>>Will it be in English?<<

And which flag will they be waving?


5 posted on 05/12/2006 7:36:20 AM PDT by SerpentDove (We will not stand by and allow politicians to destroy our country through open borders.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Enforce the existing laws before you make new ones!!

What part of this doesn't he understand?!

If the government doesn't care about this law, why should we care about obeying any law?

Chaos is coming ......and then dictatorship.....

It happens in every empire.....it is inevitable!!

6 posted on 05/12/2006 7:36:29 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I'm a proud GRINGO......is Bill Clinton still the president?...Seems that way sometimes!)
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To: NormsRevenge

President Bush plans to address the nation Monday night on the immigration debate, trying to build momentum for legislation that could provide millions of illegal immigrants a chance to become American citizens.



The poor boy is just confused. Either that or he just don't know any better.


7 posted on 05/12/2006 7:36:45 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I can live with an eventual program to naturalize the current Mexicans. But man, if he does not put that aside and announce he got the message that he has to control the border and stop the illegal immigration first, this plan is DOA and he is sinking the party, too.

I'm sure the president believes what he is doing is reasonable, but Americans are fed up.

8 posted on 05/12/2006 7:37:05 AM PDT by Williams
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To: NormsRevenge

Can't we just negotiate with Iran-let them keep any nukes they may aready have in the country? It'd be too much to expect them to get rid of them if they're already there.


9 posted on 05/12/2006 7:37:12 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (I hereby re-christen the Republican Party as "The Flaccid Party")
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To: sheana
He still doesn't get it.

And he never will!

The handlers of the illegals get it loud and clear!

Thiey are America! This is their country because it's connected to Mexico.

10 posted on 05/12/2006 7:38:10 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: lormand

That's what kills me...do people honestly think that the militant Mexican-flag-waving mobs we saw recently will soften their militancy once legalized?

They will see it as a victory for Aztlan. Give 'em an inch, they'll take the whole country.


11 posted on 05/12/2006 7:38:40 AM PDT by SerpentDove (We will not stand by and allow politicians to destroy our country through open borders.)
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To: sheana

He is going to try and covert 80% of americans with his vaulted communication skills.


12 posted on 05/12/2006 7:38:47 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: NormsRevenge
Why won't he defend our borders?

He's violating his oath and I can no longer support him.

Just Damn!

13 posted on 05/12/2006 7:41:31 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: NormsRevenge
Cross ref.

BUSH TO ADDRESS NATION AT 8PM MONDAY 5/15/06

14 posted on 05/12/2006 7:42:44 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: NormsRevenge

What's there to discuss? Enforce the laws already on the books!

Bush is/has already lost many of his die hard supporters. All he needs to do is look at FNC to see what the views are voting to see more of and read FR posts. He is not the man I voted for.


15 posted on 05/12/2006 7:43:47 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: NormsRevenge

He's sticking to House Republicans, trying to pressure them into caving once the Senate bill passes.

He's quite a Republican.


16 posted on 05/12/2006 7:44:49 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: lormand
Amusing how the anti-Bush crowd complains that the President won't address immigration, and then when he schedules an address on immigration, the first thing they do is complain and ridicule.

And then they wonder why nobody listens to them...

17 posted on 05/12/2006 7:45:41 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: SerpentDove
"They will see it as a victory for Aztlan."

I agree.

The Aztlanazi's have it coming to them however, because there are more than enough ordinary Americans who will more than welcome an opportunity to rid these militants of there "habits".

18 posted on 05/12/2006 7:46:16 AM PDT by lormand (...the wrong person came out of the water that fateful night in Chappaquiddick)
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To: NormsRevenge

Gives a whole new meaning to the term "TEX MEX" doesn't it?


19 posted on 05/12/2006 7:46:26 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bush could turn everything around---and I mean to the point of double-digit GOP victories in the fall---if he said six words.
"I was wrong" and "No, su puede."


20 posted on 05/12/2006 7:49:05 AM PDT by LS
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To: NormsRevenge

Unfortunately, a mostly great President, instead of giving an address to the nation, needs to listen to an address of The People and why we won't go along with another Amnesty Program - it is a never ending saga of give away of our rights.


21 posted on 05/12/2006 7:49:27 AM PDT by zerosix (Romans 5:8)
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To: NormsRevenge
I think all the negative nabobs on this thread should shut their traps until they hear what the President has to say. The scuttlebutt is that the President has heard our complaints, and intends to propose that no worker program will be implemented until the borders are certified as secured.
22 posted on 05/12/2006 7:54:39 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Pukin, these anti-Bush folks are a one note orchestra. They've got nothing important to say even when they aren't bitching and whining.


23 posted on 05/12/2006 7:56:21 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: NormsRevenge
"Key to the agreement is who will be negotiating a compromise with the House, which last December passed an enforcement-only bill that would subject the estimated 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States to felony charges as well as deportation. "

What's going on? This passed LAST DECEMBER?

WHY isn't it being enforced NOW as well as the rest of our arsenal of LAWS that don't allow ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS?

How many laws do we need?

ENFORCE THEM.

It's ILLEGAL to be here without proper paperwork. If they want to be citizens they can go through the LEGAL process just like the rest of us and our relatives did.
24 posted on 05/12/2006 7:56:31 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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25 posted on 05/12/2006 7:56:38 AM PDT by SUSSA
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#6 you're right on!

It's coming and the stupid **its will welcome it.


26 posted on 05/12/2006 7:57:47 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: NormsRevenge
here that picture was a little dark... :)


27 posted on 05/12/2006 7:58:27 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Pukin Dog

The scuttlebutt is that the President has heard our complaints, and intends to propose that no worker program will be implemented until the borders are certified as secured.

1. Amesty in any form is still unacceptable under the rule of law.
2. Talk is cheap - I'll believe it when I see it, six months till election day.....tick tock - tick tock

(nice use of "negative nabobs" ! a throw-back to the nixon administration!)


28 posted on 05/12/2006 7:58:30 AM PDT by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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To: Rokke
Good morning, flyboy. Where are you and your chariot this fine morning?
29 posted on 05/12/2006 7:59:15 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

I doubt that very much, although I'd be delighted to see it happen. I'll check in on this thread to eat crow if he does announce a no-wiggle-room policy of border control.


30 posted on 05/12/2006 7:59:24 AM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: NormsRevenge

I wonder if this'll manage to drive GWB's approval ratings even lower if some number of Republicans who now associate amnesty with the Democrats realize that's what GWB also wants. The biggest irony here is that the 1/3 of voters who still support GWB are the most conservative, and so they're all but interchangable with the 1/3 of voters who most strongly oppose amnesty. The other 2/3 are hardly likely to switch to approval of GWB because of this, so all I see is downside from a political viewpoint.


31 posted on 05/12/2006 7:59:57 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick)
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To: Pukin Dog

Expergiscere et coffeam olface, tiro astromachus.


32 posted on 05/12/2006 8:00:23 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Williams

Only if they can't bring in grandma and grandpa, and the 55 cousins, and their dependents and so on ad infinitum.
That won't happen, so it's better to drop the whole idea.


33 posted on 05/12/2006 8:00:30 AM PDT by bordergal
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To: Uncle Fud

me too, but so far I have NOT had to eat my words. I do hurl everytime I hear the "jobs americans won't do" phrase, does that count?


34 posted on 05/12/2006 8:01:19 AM PDT by sheana
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To: WhiteGuy
A worker program does not have to mean amnesty. Why not just wait and hear what the man has to say? Or are you just a Democrat in FReeper clothing?
35 posted on 05/12/2006 8:01:19 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

BTTT


36 posted on 05/12/2006 8:01:49 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Once a Snowflake, always a Snowflake ! Good luck Tony!)
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To: WhiteGuy
Okay, that wasnt fair. I'm just sick of the negativity!
37 posted on 05/12/2006 8:01:50 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Sunny Colorado. Taking the kids four wheeling in my new Jeep. We're going to try a little gold panning. Nothing like a little mountain air to purge some of the poison posted on this site lately.


38 posted on 05/12/2006 8:03:27 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Echo Talon

Thanks! They love to play with the pics these days.. and so do many here. ;-)


39 posted on 05/12/2006 8:05:42 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge
I can see Tony's hand painted all over this... It's smart to address an issues like this instead of hiding under the bed. Way to go Tony!

However... please let the president know that "Immigration reform" begins with SECURING THE BORDER FIRST... Then we can consider the problem at hand This picture to "illustrate" the point :)

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40 posted on 05/12/2006 8:06:20 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: Pukin Dog

I believe we will see some strong overtures toward conservatives ... I can think of no other good reason for this speech.


41 posted on 05/12/2006 8:06:51 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: nmh
"Key to the agreement is who will be negotiating a compromise with the House, which last December passed an enforcement-only bill that would subject the estimated 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States to felony charges as well as deportation. "

What's going on? This passed LAST DECEMBER?

WHY isn't it being enforced NOW

Read it again. Sounds like it passed the House but not the Senate. We don't know that the President would have signed it.

Don't get me wrong. I am with you.

42 posted on 05/12/2006 8:07:25 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: Rokke
A new Jeep? Cool.

I took a break yesterday to go see United 93. I'm not even ready yet to talk about how angry that film made me. Happy prospecting.
43 posted on 05/12/2006 8:08:20 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Rokke

I'm not anti-Bush, and politics is a little more complicated in the real world.


44 posted on 05/12/2006 8:08:25 AM PDT by lormand (...the wrong person came out of the water that fateful night in Chappaquiddick)
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To: NormsRevenge

makes me wonder whats wrong with the editors...


45 posted on 05/12/2006 8:08:32 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Rokke
Nothing like a little mountain air to purge some of the poison posted on this site lately.

LOL.

Yer gonna need a lot more than air to purge the poison from this bunch...metaphorically speaking of course.

46 posted on 05/12/2006 8:11:17 AM PDT by evad
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To: Pukin Dog

I agree. Let the man speak.

Congre$$ is already actually talking about building some fences finally, actually paying more attention to the borders and committing additional resources.

We need to remember Our gubamint is a big clumsy thing of a ship and takes a while to change directions.


47 posted on 05/12/2006 8:11:25 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: lormand
Your first comment 3 posts into a thread announcing Bush is going to address the nation on immigration is a snarky comment about whether or not its going to be in English...and then you claim not to be anti-Bush and make a laughable attempt at showing your deep insight into politics and the real world.

Like I said...amusing.

48 posted on 05/12/2006 8:13:13 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Pukin Dog
I understand. It is frustrating.

It wasn't supposed to be this way.

Republican control of WH, Senate, HOR, and more-or-less the courts, yet this bunch finds it impossible to take a leadership role and do the things that make sense.

The amnesty issue is just the most obvious example.


("nattering nabobs of negativity" - Spiro Agnew)
49 posted on 05/12/2006 8:13:47 AM PDT by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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To: freespirited

Even if I misread it, we have OOLDES of OTHER LAWS that OUTLAW illegal aliens.

WHY do we need more and more laws, saying what we already have on the books and they're NOT enforced. It's a joke.


50 posted on 05/12/2006 8:13:53 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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