Skip to comments.Gibson inspired by 'fear-mongering' Bush (Mel Gibson)
Posted on 05/12/2006 8:55:00 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly
Film star and director Mel Gibson has launched a scathing attack on US President George W Bush, comparing his leadership to the barbaric rulers of the Mayan civilisation in his new film Apocalypto.
The epic, due for release later this year, captures the decline of the Maya kingdom and the slaughter of thousands of inhabitants as human sacrifices in a bid to save the nation from collapsing.
Gibson reveals he used present day American politics as an inspiration, claiming the government callously plays on the nation's insecurities to maintain power.
He tells British film magazine Hotdog, "The fear-mongering we depict in the film reminds me of President Bush and his guys".
Geez! So you differ with him on one issue, and you're not going to his movie over that? Damn. Conservative do eat our own, don't we?
Hey People, WAKE UP!! Mel Gibson is but an actor the last time I looked. Why in the hell any of you put strong beliefs in what he says or believes in, is stupid. I'm a carpenter, do you care what I think? I doubt it.
Well, if it wasn't the implication, then:
1) Many many reviewers (some sympathetic to the movie) were misled just like me; and
2) The scene (along with most of the scenes with Mary the Mother of Jesus) was nonetheless stupid and not believable.
Mr. Gibson is against abortion so many just assumed he supported President Bush.
Ugh, I forgot about the movie about the aliens coming to the cornfields. (What was it called?) Ugh, that was a terrible movie, IMHO.
"I'm a carpenter, do you care what I think? I doubt it."
Actually I'd probably put more stock in what you have to say, than an out of touch Hollywood actor, no matter how good or conservative some of his films have been.
The Passion of the Tinfoil?
The words 'out of touch hollywood actor' seemed joined the hip to many. Is there a Hollywood actor who is 'in touch'? Or is it just a comment that extreme wealth makes one out of touch?
Actually, he marches to his own drummer and doesn't care about narrow left and right categories. If he really wanted to cater to "Hollyweird," he would haven't have made a movie that dares to criticize American Indians.
There are no Constititonal means to deport American citizens not convicted of a crime at all. Much less based on a religious test.
The eastern Mediterranean had been largely Greek in culture (Hellenistic) for several centuries in Christ's time. It is pretty well established that all except the peasants in all these countries spoke Greek in addition to whatever language was native to them.
The legions at this point were by no means purely Italian any more. They were more often composed of subject volunteers from various groups who received Roman citizenship as one of the perks when retiring. For many, perhaps most, Latin was not their native language, although it was still the language of command used in the army. I would strongly suspect that Greek was much more widely used in the civil administration, as the (educated) Romans rulers all spoke it and so would the (educated) Jews and other subject peoples with whom they had to deal.
So when Jesus and Pilate spoke, it was probably in Greek, if only because if they had spoke in Latin most of the observers wouldn't have known what was going on.
Greek was a nearly universal language in the East. That's why the entire NT was written in it. Educated Jews all spoke and read Greek, and so did educated people from all other groups in the area.
Thousands of years ago, in the old world, and later in the new world, there was human sacrifice.........for better health, better crops, better yadda, yadda, yadda.
same same today........most abortions are for convience and to save the money that would be spent on carrying to term, clothes, food, shelter, child care, education, and medical for the human being..........thus leaving more money for the adult(s) to spend on better "health", better "crops", etc., etc., etc.
as in the days of old.........folks think they are getting ahead by sacrificing their young for fill in the blank.........it was wrong then, and it is wrong now........it's time for Mel to do a flick on abortion, if he has the guts.
As far as his Bush comment(s)..........it's a volunteer army, Mel, and we are in a world wide war with an enemy more dangerous, and in larger numbers than Hitler and his armies. I actually thought Mel was a lot smarter than that. Looks like I was wrong again.
No, his reason for posting was to disparage Christianity and Ann Coulter and he went way off topic to do it. The thread is not about Ann Coulter.
So if Dubya has the whole world ticked at him, he must be doing something right.
Matt Stone and Trey Parker said that last year, but did anybody listen?
We didn't listen!
Just another Hollywood idiot. Mel, I had thought more highly of you.
As God, there should have been a scend of Him inventing Velcro.
Oh crap, there goes another actor I enjoyed.
I don't think Gibson is trying to get back in with his Hollywood pals. He is with me on the most important thing: Christ and His atonement for my sin. But I don't think he ever agreed with us on the war to begin with.
Wow! I hadn't heard that! Has it been released yet?
But flakiness aside, I like Mel.
According to Gibson, we do, and thats the inspiration for his new movie.
I'm getting short tempered in my old age. It gets harder and harder for me to listen to these jaybirds insulting me, and then go down to the multiplex to give them my money.
Feel free, Gibson's a tremendous film maker, I have no doubt this will be a good film.
George Bush dragged us into a war precipitously without DEMANDING that real, incontroverible proof of WMDs be put on his desk before American blood was spilt over their purported existence, has failed to nail Osama or Zawahiri -- the actual perpetrators of 911 -- in the almost five years (longer than WWII) since that sad date, has put forward doctrines that NO conservative should be comfortable with, (i.e., pre-emptive war and Wilsonian nation building), has expanded government recklessly with both social programs and privacy intrusions, has failed to secure our borders and indeed treats citizenship as a negligible status, and has generally mauled the English language on a daily basis.
Other freepers may continue to find some saving grace in the man and his administration, but not me.
With subtitles in Aramaic.
So I have been told. Apparently I fell asleep during it (I did find it very boring) and missed the end.
Heh, sometimes when you try to pigeon hole people into nice tidy boxes, it ends up biting you on the ass.
I apply the same dictum to conservatives as with liberals: "Shut up and sing".
Last time I looked Mayans were American Indians.
Not this again....Do you realize how absurd it is to read a criticism of another's acceptance of intelligent design, from someone who has swallowed the whole loaf of baloney of naturalist-materialism-based agenda-driven Darwinism? You look like a fool.
Me: I think his point was that just because somebody is on your side doens't stop them from going off the deep end.
subterfuge: No, his reason for posting was to disparage Christianity and Ann Coulter and he went way off topic to do it. The thread is not about Ann Coulter.
well, I don't want to take the thread further off track...
But you raised a point I feel compelled to respond to. Taking a shot at a Christian is not automatically the taking a shot at Christianity.
The observation is then mutual.
Why would he have to kiss Hollywood's butt after "The Passion of the Christ"? Wasn't it one of the biggest grossing films of the year? Didn't it make him even more powerful? I'm curious to see if he's bashed here for speaking out against Bush while overseas, ala The Dixie Chicks.
Every time :~D
I prefer tall, dark and clean-cut. I would add sane, but we are talking about actors here. Oh well,tastes differ ;-)
A good source of the political ideology of many (though not all) traditionalist Catholics is the Web site, www.lewrockwell.com. Many of the contributors, such as Web master and editor Lew Rockwell, and scholars Joseph Sobran, Thomas DiLorenzo, and Thomas Woods, are traditionalist Catholics who are libertarians in the area of politics and, with regard to foreign affairs, more isolationist than Robert Taft or Patrick Buchanan ever were. Other traditionalist Catholics, such as Christopher Ferrara, a New Jersey attorney specializing in pro-life matters, believe the extreme governmental minimalism and the entirely secular character of Austrian economics of this group contradict historic Catholic social teachings. However, Ferrara is also isolationist. Some traditionalists, such as Hutton Gibson, inclined to be anti-Israel, if not outright anti-Semitic. (For example, Hutton Gibson denies that there were gas chambers at the Nazi concentration camps.)
Mel Gibson is quite different in his beliefs from others in the non-liberal minority in Hollywood. Until he directed The Passion of the Christ, he never generated the scorn of the Hollywood Left like Charlton Heston or Tom Selleck did.