Posted on 05/12/2006 2:05:38 PM PDT by Impeach98
"Wouldn't that be nice if that is what he'll be saying on Monday night?"
Please, every freeper send him an email suggesting the above ... comments@whitehouse.gov
at least pombo will lose his chair, some good comes from bad
I beg to differ. I'm from Ohio and am a Republican. I can't stand Voinovich or DeWine (voted against them in every primary HOPING they will get tossed for the General Election and disappointed every time).
'I notice some people here had a knee-jerk reaction that Melanie was attacking the GOP and instead somehow hoping the Democrats win."
Sad to say, Impeach98, but you will soon find that it is NO knee-jerk reaction. Welcome to what has become the IMPEACHMENT WAR here at FR where anyone who has dared to post articles or speak out against illegal immigration/amnesty/borders have found that ANY criticism of President Bush's position, (as you can see from your very first reply on this thread) immediately strips from you any "Bush supporter" role you think you may have had in the past, regardless of what you might have done in the past to support him, how long you've supported him or what you've supported him through. Instead, and I kid you not, we've been deemed oh, any number of things from a liar, troll, instigators, trouble makers, a DU'er in disguise, a drunk, or even someone who has fallen prey to "The Beast" because WE are, with careless disregard, ruining our chances of retaining the majority in November. Surprisingly, I have found the deepest blows coming from those here who I have come to respect the most.
In any event, what I really want to say is thank you for posting the article and if you speak with Ms. Morgan again, please let her know I sincerely thank her for making clear exactly how I feel. I am extremely disappointed and let down in Bush's position on this issue and I certainly hope, as she does, that our GOP leadership in D.C. is listening. She said it well.
Crybaby of course being a reference to Voinovich's crying fit over John Bolton being named US Ambassador to the UN.
Most conservative women would appreciate if you don't mention that ugly bag of bones on a Melanie thread.
AC does not flatter womanhood acting like a man and looking like a dried up malnourished......
Well, you get the picture.
You got it! Not only is Melanie a regular reader of Free Republic, I also had emailed this thread to her before and just now sent your post in particular to her.
Looking back at what I wrote, please forgive me....I stated that there was an "impeachment" war going on, when I meant to say IMMIGRATION war! Gawd, I would hope that wouldn't be the case!!! LOL..... My disability sometimes gets in the way in the evenings. I hope that you realized my mistake when reading the post!
I understood - and will make sure Melanie does too. My handle is "Impeach 98" so I did do a double take at first :)
Point taken.
Nevertheless, there was no particular reason for illegal immigration to show up on most peoples radar screens until Uno de Mayo.
It used to be that Bush defenders said that he was only acting like a Democrat to steal their thunder, once he had everyone in love with him or something, he was going to turn sharp right. I haven't heard that defense in a little while.
I like and support President Bush, but don't believe he is a conservative on every issue by any means.
I think we have been doing just that.
President Bush has lost an enormous amount of the support he had after 9/11---by both RATS and Republicans. If I recall correctly, he was at 90% or more.
President Bush has been faced with more severe natural and manmade attacks to our country than any other president in the history of this country. Thankfully, he has has handled most very well. Unfortunately, he is 100% wrong on the illegal alien issue!
Think of it this way: President Bush is like the President of the "corporation" of the United States of America. Senators and Representatives are like the Directors of the "corporation." Those who are eligible to vote are the "stockholders" (e.g. U.S. citizens who registered). Those who are not eligible to vote (e.g. illegal aliens, permanent residents and foreign Presidents), are not "stockholders" and they are not supposed to have any say over how the "corporation" is run. Indeed, it would be irresponsible for a corporate President and its Directors to totally ignore the "stockholders" and the corporation's By-Laws.
The majority of "stockholders" who chose to exercise their right to vote (for Presidential Electors), spoke. They wanted someone who means what he says and says what he means. They wanted "a uniter, not a divider." They wanted a social conservative, someone who would nominate Supreme Court Justices who would strictly adhere to the U. S. Constitution and not add new meaning to it. They wanted President Bush.
The Electors were chosen and President Bush was elected.
The problem stems from the fact that loyalty is extremely important to President Bush! But he seems to have forgotten that loyalty is a TWO-WAY street!
The "stockholders" elected him to "preserve, protect and defend" the Constitution and the sovereignty of the country from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Because President Bush has totally ignored (i.e. been disloyal to) the "stockholders" on the issue of securing the border---the most important job he has to do---those who voted for him feel they have been used and taken for granted. They feel it is incredible that NEARLY FIVE YEARS AFTER 9/11, the borders are STILL NOT SECURE!!! And that instead of listening to the "stockholders," he is listening to those who are not "stockholders," and even to another country's President (Vincente Fox)---yet we are having to pay for it, in security, new diseases and healthcare, lower wages, language, etc.
How do I know what the people who elected President Bush think? I have investigated the pulse of the people. Number one, I have three degrees and experience that are marketing-related and I have talked to hundreds of people about the issue. Number two, I watch Fox News (primarily) and listen to and call into talk shows, both locally and nationally.
Number three, I was one of the 286 Electors who literally elected President Bush and I know I did not vote for him to look the other way when our country is being invaded, particularly from our southern border!!!
If President Bush somehow sees or hear about this response, I hope that he will also see and abide by my motto: It's NEVER wrong to do what's RIGHT!!!
I hope he will drop the idea of listening to and REWARDING people who DISREGARD our entry laws, flag and language and who commit IMMIGRATION FRAUD, IDENTITY FRAUD, VOTER FRAUD, MAIL FRAUD and participate in ORGANIZED CRIME (R.I.C.O.) (i.e. participate in rallies to register non-U.S. citizens to vote), etc., instead of INCARCERATING or DEPORTING them.
President Bush could save face by disclosing that the American "stockholders" have spoken---LOUD and CLEAR! They want the borders secure and NO AMNESTY FOR CRIMINALS. We need H.R. 4437!
Hopefully, the Senators will drop the idea as well and support H.R. 4437. If illegal aliens can no longer be hired or get "free" healthcare, and they truly risk incarceration or deportation and NEVER being allowed to become a U.S. citizen after being in the U. S. illegally, that should take care of a lot of the financial incentive to stay and many would probably leave "voluntarily."
WOSG ADDED: "HR 4437 is a GOOD bill and all Republicans should get behind it."
I disagree...I think President Bush's approval numbers would probably jump 30-40% overnight if he would SUPPORT H.R. 4437 and ENFORCE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS!!!
ANother take on this, from Powerling blog:
"First, conservatives need to understand that the failure of Republicans to govern as strong conservatives is not the result of moral defects (although some can be found). The core problem is that conservatives do not make up a majority of the electorate. Republicans need the base, but they also need swing voters -- they can't win without both. A defeat at the polls won't change this. Instead, it will give liberals a chance to govern. They likely will do this in a center-left fashion or worse, and conservatives will be the main losers.
We should also keep in mind that, because this is still a great country, once a party takes power there's a good chance it will keep it for years. But for a 50-50 race in Florida going Bush's way, we'd probably be in our 14th straight year of a Democratic presidency. The country likely would have rallied around President Gore after 9/11, thus enabling the Dems to increase their majority in the Senate in 2002 and perhaps recapture the House that year or in 2004.
So let's push Republicans to build the fence and get a better grip on spending. But let's not fool ourselves into believing that the question of which party holds power is a matter of indifference or that, if defeated, the Republicans are likely to return quickly to power as a much more conservative force."
>>>Crybaby of course being a reference to Voinovich's crying fit over John Bolton being named US Ambassador to the UN.<<<
For the record, my cousin works for John Bolton, and she told me several weeks ago that Voinovich now supports Bolton.
I submit that that action was neither a strategy nor stupid - instead it is consistent with a President and his party leaders responding to imperatives that can't be discussed publicly. I don't know what those imperatives are or whether they are being imposed on the President by Islamic terrorists, the Chinese government, K Street lobbyists, drug cartel bosses, or some combination of the above...only that they appear to be leaving Bush with very little freedom of action...or speech, for that matter.
Stupidity can't adequately explain it.
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