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Ruling Blocks Calif. High School Exit Exam
Houston Chronicle ^ | May 12, 2006 | Chron

Posted on 05/12/2006 3:35:15 PM PDT by mr. mojo risin

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — A judge Friday suspended California's high school exit exam _ denounced as discriminatory by critics _ in a ruling that could allow thousands of students who failed the test to get their diplomas anyway.

The judge granted a preliminary injunction in a lawsuit filed by 10 students and their parents, who claim the exam discriminates against poor students and those who are learning English.

"There is evidence in the record that shows that students in economically challenged communities have not had an equal opportunity to learn the materials tested," Freedman wrote.

The argued that the six students failed the exam because they have poor English skills, not because they were denied a good education.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
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Man...can it get any worse?
1 posted on 05/12/2006 3:35:18 PM PDT by mr. mojo risin
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To: mr. mojo risin
Hey, why complain?

We are closing the borders, but I STILL need cheap labor!
2 posted on 05/12/2006 3:36:50 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: mr. mojo risin
Man...can it get any worse?

In California? Of course, it can.

3 posted on 05/12/2006 3:37:10 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: mr. mojo risin

They'll make a big splash in the job market ... if they can't master English and high school subjects.


4 posted on 05/12/2006 3:37:27 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: mr. mojo risin
Man...can it get any worse?

Yes, just wait until the law passes that require textbooks in CA to recognize the acheivement of Gay, Lesbian, and Transgender people in history.

5 posted on 05/12/2006 3:38:27 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: Pukin Dog

Sounds like this high school would be a great place to replace the ILLEGALS. They don't speak English either and they are also uneducated. Let em fight it out.


6 posted on 05/12/2006 3:39:26 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: mr. mojo risin

So in other words no student is allowed to be smarter than another. Gee what a concept.


7 posted on 05/12/2006 3:40:00 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: mr. mojo risin

Abe Lincoln was dirt poor. Taught himself how to read. Lots of setbacks. Lost his Mom at a young age and still he became President. Amazing how childish and irresponsible we have become.


8 posted on 05/12/2006 3:40:50 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh

My guess is that a significant percentage were going to fail the test. Liberal judges couldn't stand by and let the teachers (Union) take the heat for that.


9 posted on 05/12/2006 3:42:23 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: mr. mojo risin

Yeah, it's discrimination, alright. It's discrimination that our society is subjected to junk like that...


10 posted on 05/12/2006 3:42:45 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: mr. mojo risin

Were the students attending Rio Linda High?


11 posted on 05/12/2006 3:43:38 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: DAC21
Yeah, one hand washes the other and the ultimate goal is to keep the sheeple dumbed down so they retain their power.
12 posted on 05/12/2006 3:44:58 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: mr. mojo risin

Why waste your time. Why not buy a CA high school diploma on line for $50.

Remember this when hiring people from CA. Their high school diploma is probably not worth the paper it is printed on.


13 posted on 05/12/2006 3:46:01 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: So Cal Rocket

"Yes, just wait until the law passes that require textbooks in CA to recognize the acheivement of Gay, Lesbian, and Transgender people in history"

And strike the term Mother and Father while they are at it.
Now to be know as Parental unit from here on out. Sad thing is , from what I understand, this is all true. Arnold is done if he doesn't veto it.


14 posted on 05/12/2006 3:46:24 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: mr. mojo risin
So, these kids don't get to leave High School?
(/s)
15 posted on 05/12/2006 3:49:34 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: mr. mojo risin

Corrupt, stupid judges are ruining this country. Why not
just give kids a high school diploma when they turn 18?
Wouldn't want to hurt their self esteem, y'know.


16 posted on 05/12/2006 3:50:25 PM PDT by beethovenfan
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To: mr. mojo risin

Why even have schools and or education. Lets get rid of it all and save ourselves billions and billions of dollars.


17 posted on 05/12/2006 3:51:54 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: DAC21

They've been taking the test for years. The pass rate is
@90%, and these are CA high school students. Its not like this is a hard exam.


18 posted on 05/12/2006 3:53:41 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: mr. mojo risin

We have seen what the teachers UNION has produced and we don't like their product.

Unfortunately this is not a free market where other suppliers can be found without increased cost.


19 posted on 05/12/2006 3:55:12 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: mr. mojo risin

This is a real victory for CA students. They will thank people like this judge for years if this becomes permanent.


20 posted on 05/12/2006 3:55:32 PM PDT by umgud (so lonely, I take telemarketer calls)
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To: nmh

Oh, they'll have no trouble finding work... It's just that they'll stay at the bottom of the economic ladder their entire lives.


21 posted on 05/12/2006 3:55:33 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: mr. mojo risin

A lawsuit like this works to the detriment of all involved. After 12 years of a free education, these students are dumb asses, and they are suing to ensure that they are certified, degreed dumb asses. The lawsuit just gives weight to the idea that being ignorant is OK, and that ignorance is only the result of the mean old schools trying to deny you a degree, not an indication of any shortcomings on your part. I'll bet employers are just lining up to offer these "graduates" good, high-paying jobs. The lawyers who filed this lawsuit ought to be ashamed of themselves.


22 posted on 05/12/2006 3:55:55 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: mr. mojo risin

"The Mississipification of California"

The title of an article in (IIRC) Newsweek about how California was
sinking in many areas: education, infrastructure, etc.

Done over a decade ago. And coming true today.


23 posted on 05/12/2006 3:56:52 PM PDT by VOA
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To: mr. mojo risin
I guess we don't need schools to turn the children of immigrants into Americans any more. Having a common language and understanding of our common culture isn't necessary either.
24 posted on 05/12/2006 3:59:28 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: lastchance

Welcome to the world of lefties, it does not make anyone smarter.....its designed to make smarter people dumb as the rest. Lefties do this on purpose to keep everyone dumber then them, (impossible)


25 posted on 05/12/2006 4:03:01 PM PDT by roverman2K6
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To: mr. mojo risin

This judge is far too stupid and ignorant to have any business making up the law as he goes. It's not as though the test is even remotely demanding, from what I've read about it. An 8th grader should be able to get 95% on it (at least) and they're only requiring a 50% score from people who are supposed to be ready to graduate from HIGH SCHOOL.

IF YOU CAN'T PASS THIS TEST YOU SHOULD BE MUCH TOO ASHAMED TO TAKE PART IN A LAWSUIT ABOUT IT!

We are not talking about college level mathematics or anything........


26 posted on 05/12/2006 4:03:08 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: 3AngelaD

My first thought was to suggest eliminating the bar exam since it may unfairly discriminate against unqualified lawyers. But, on second thought, I can see it does not prevent lawyers lacking common sense and intelligence from passing the bar.


27 posted on 05/12/2006 4:06:26 PM PDT by RLM
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To: Pukin Dog

Good point. These judges know where people of "their class" get their housemaids, parlormaids, bedwarmers and gardeners from.


28 posted on 05/12/2006 4:07:28 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: mr. mojo risin

Confirmed: CA kids will be "stuck on stupid."


29 posted on 05/12/2006 4:12:11 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: mr. mojo risin

I agree with the judge --

If they can't read or write by this time we should just stop wasting taxpayer money trying to educate them. The country needs ditch diggers too.


30 posted on 05/12/2006 4:12:23 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: buwaya

If those exit tests are anything like New York's Regents exams, they're meant to determine whether a student knows the bare minimum, and nothing more. They're not a challenge to anybody with either a brain or an attention span.


31 posted on 05/12/2006 4:16:27 PM PDT by RedBeaconNY (If you want to know what God thinks of money, look at the people He gave it to.)
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To: mr. mojo risin
This is the state site for the exam. Doesn't look very hard. It is above Jr. High in some ways.
http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/tg/hs/resources.asp
32 posted on 05/12/2006 4:24:35 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: mr. mojo risin

The reason the students cannot pass the exit exam is because they did not learn enough in high school to pass the exam. It is obvious they should not graduate. This ruling will not last.


33 posted on 05/12/2006 4:25:40 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Uncle Hal

This judge just said the test discriminates against STUPID people..
My question.. Did this Judge GO to SCHOOL ????


34 posted on 05/12/2006 4:40:31 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: mr. mojo risin
let the scenario play out....

a whole segment of H.S. grad dumb f**ks that can't get meaningful jobs because of their sloth in H.S.

The Dems to the rescue
pass some socialistic laws empowering the outta work dumb f**ks...in exchange for their votes.

35 posted on 05/12/2006 4:42:35 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: Enchante

I believe that the test is written at a 10th grade level.


36 posted on 05/12/2006 4:48:59 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: bannie
I believe that the test is written at a 10th 8th grade level.
37 posted on 05/12/2006 4:57:50 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: mr. mojo risin

Say you graduated in 06?

We don't hire '06ers son.


38 posted on 05/12/2006 4:58:59 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: mr. mojo risin
Here is an entrepreneurial idea. Why can't someone organize an independent testing organization with a blue chip advisory board to offer a rigorous, comprehensive high school exit exam -- a national Regents, if you will? Taking the test would be entirely voluntary, as would be the decision to submit the results to colleges and future employers. (If you foul up, just forget you ever took it.)

Provided that the organization maintained its standards -- which it would have every incentive to do, since its reputation is what is would be selling -- good students would be able to earn a legitimate credential that might rapidly acquire significant cache in the marketplace.

39 posted on 05/12/2006 5:00:20 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: mr. mojo risin
Man...can it get any worse?

My suggestion:

Give every newborn a HS Diploma and close the schools.

I have to get back to my beer now...

FMCDH(BITS)

40 posted on 05/12/2006 5:02:00 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: dhs12345

You obviously don't know any Calfornia HS students like my daughters and their friends.

These are brilliant, savvy, hard-working kids (many of them minorities) who don't deserve to be slandered and/or lumped into your prejudicial statement.


41 posted on 05/12/2006 5:02:22 PM PDT by Husker8877
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Man...can it get any worse?

Yes. They are also now complaining that SAT scores are low because students are exhausted by the end of the test and therefore answer later questions and essays wrong.

-PJ

42 posted on 05/12/2006 5:04:00 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Husker8877

Employers will now have to question the qualifications of everybody instead of relying on the fact that they may have a diploma. This hurts all students, not just the failing.


43 posted on 05/12/2006 5:09:13 PM PDT by umgud (so lonely, I take telemarketer calls)
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To: Pukin Dog
"It is hard to be poor. It is hard to grow up in a place where there is a lot of crime," said the 18-year-old, a Mexican immigrant who attends school in the working-class San Francisco Bay area city of Richmond. "No one will be hurt if we get our diploma."

I wonder if this youngster happens to know any of the neighborhood criminals personally.

44 posted on 05/12/2006 5:15:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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...the exam discriminates against poor students...

That's exactly the purpose of the exam, idiot judge.

...and those who are learning English.

If you don't know English by graduation, see above.

45 posted on 05/12/2006 5:18:12 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Go home and fix your own country before you complain about ours.)
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To: Brad's Gramma; Czar

You both live in Calif. Now you know why the public schools are held in such high regard.

>>Superior Court Judge Robert Freedman also denied the state's request to immediately stay the decision pending an appeal.<<

I thank the judge for making things so clear! It is great to know there is no bias in our justice system.


46 posted on 05/12/2006 5:32:38 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: mr. mojo risin
From the article: "Superior Court Judge Robert Freedman"

He is pictured on the right.

BIO:
Judge Robert Freedman was appointed to the Superior Court by Governor Pete Wilson in 1998 and elected assistant presiding judge in 2003. Before his judicial career, Judge Freedman was an attorney in private practice with the firm formerly known as Wald, Freedman, Chapman, and Bendes in Oakland for more than 25 years.

...More...

Calif. Judge's Backlog Draws Inquiry
Matthew Hirsch
The Recorder
May 8, 2006

Alameda County, Calif., Superior Court Judge Robert Freedman, a former assistant presiding judge who has held several top administrative positions in the court, was charged Wednesday with "willful misconduct" by the state Commission on Judicial Performance.

In an eight-page notice of formal proceedings, the CJP said Freedman exceeded a 90-day period deemed "reasonable … to carry out the basic responsibility of a judge to decide cases." Twice Freedman was advised about upholding the 90-day rule, etched out in the Code of Judicial Ethics, but he continued to delay his rulings a total of 20 times, the complaint charges.

Perhaps more damaging to Freedman is a second charge that accuses the judge of essentially falsifying public documents for work he had yet to complete. Before judges get paid, they must certify in an affidavit that they have no matters on hold for more than 90 days, and Freedman was cited for signing these affidavits multiple times between June 2000 and October 2004.

A third charge says he failed to meet deadlines on more than 200 fee-waiver applications, costing the county roughly $10,000....(continued at Findlaw.com)

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47 posted on 05/12/2006 5:37:01 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: mr. mojo risin

48 posted on 05/12/2006 5:41:12 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
 


"Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too."


49 posted on 05/12/2006 5:51:50 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: BenLurkin
He probably is one of the criminals. I dont know why they called it a San Francisco Bay city, because Richmond is northwest of Berkeley. It is also a very run down ghetto of a town.
50 posted on 05/12/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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