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Greg Palast: Kerry won in '04
OpEdNews.com ^ | 5/13/06

Posted on 05/13/2006 10:50:34 AM PDT by LdSentinal

KERRY WON IN '04 ... LARRY DAVID TELLS YOU THE STONE-COLD EVIDENCE THAT, YEP, GEORGE BUSH STOLE IT IN 2004. AGAIN.

From Armed Madhouse, the new book by Greg Palast Wednesday, Release date June 06,2005

Kerry Won. Now Get Over It . . .

...because they're putting '08 in their pocket. Republicans just seem to have that winning spirit. They also have caging lists, felons of the future, rotting ballots, snuffed canaries, and a lock on the votes of Kissinger-Americans and the undead.

WARNING! There are cranks and kooks and crazies out there on the Internet who say that George Bush lost the 2004 election, like one titled, "Kerry Won" published on the TomPaine.com web site two days after the election. I wrote it.

On November 11, a week after TomPaine.com published it, I received an e-mail from The New York Times Washington Bureau. Hot on the investigation of the veracity of the vote, The Times reporter asked me pointed questions:

Question #1: Are you a "sore loser"?

Question #2: Are you a "conspiracy nut"?

There was no third question. Investigation of the vote was, for The Times at any rate, complete. The next day, the paper's thorough analysis of the evidence yielded this front-page story, "VOTE FRAUD THEORIES, SPREAD BY BLOGS, ARE QUICKLY BURIED."

As America's self-proclaimed Paper of Record had no space for the facts, I thought I'd share some with you here.

"Kerry Won" was not a two-day inquiry à la Times. It was the latest in a series of investigative reports coming out of a four-year team examination, begun for BBC Television's Newsnight, Britain's Guardian papers and Harper's Magazine, dissecting that greasy sausage called American electoral democracy.

And, by the way, the answer to Question #1: I didn't lose, so I'm not sore. This investigation isn't about John Kerry. As a journalist, I don't give a toss which rich white kid won the game. But I'm not so blasé that I don't care about the disappearance of American democracy. And I really wanted to know how the Bushes swallowed the sausage.

How'd they do it? Again. And how will they do it in '08? The answer arrived just after midnight on October 8, 2004, three weeks before the official voting, in a series of extraordinary e-mails. The e-mails were intended for the chieftains of the President's re-election campaign in Washington. Strangely enough, they were misaddressed and ended up in my mailbox. Such things happen.

NIGHT OF THE UNCOUNTED:

How to Disappear Three Million Votes

But the e-mails and their technical attachments won't mean a thing unless you understand some arcane facts about elections American-style.

First, consider CNN's Ohio exit polls broadcast just after midnight after the voting ended on Election Day. They show John Kerry defeated George Bush among women voters by 53% to 47%. And among men voters, Kerry defeated Bush 51% to 49%.

So here's your question, class: What third sex put George Bush over the top in Ohio and gave him the White House?

Answer: The Uncounted.

In Ohio, there were 153,237 ballots simply thrown away, more than the Bush "victory" margin. In New Mexico the uncounted vote was fives times the Bush alleged victory margin of 5,988. In Iowa, Bush's triumph of 13,498 was overwhelmed by 36,811 votes rejected. In all, over three million votes were cast but never counted in the 2004 presidential election. The official number is bad enough-1,855,827 ballots cast not counted, reported to the federal government's Election's Assistance Commission. But the feds are missing data from several cities and entire states too embarrassed to report the votes they failed to count. Correcting for the under-reporting of the undercount, the number of ballots cast but never counted goes to 3,600,380. And there are certainly more we couldn't locate to tote up.

Why doesn't your government tell you this? Hey, they do. It's right there in black-and-white on a U.S. Census Bureau announcement released seven months after the election -- in a footnote to the report on voter turn -- out. The Census tabulation of voters voting "differs," from ballots tallied by the Clerk of the House of Representatives for the 2004 presidential race by 3.4 million votes.

This is the hidden presidential count which, excepting the Census' whispered footnote, has not been reported.

Unfortunately, that's not all. In addition to the 3 million ballots uncounted due to technical "glitches," millions more were lost because the voters were prevented from casting their ballots in the first place. This group of un-votes includes voters illegally denied registration or wrongly purged from the registries.

In the voting biz, most of these lost votes are called "spoilage." Spoilage, not the voters, picked our president for us.

Joe Stalin, the story goes, said, "It's not the people who vote that count; it's the people who count the votes." That may have been true in the old Soviet Union, but in the U.S.A, the game is much, much subtler: He who makes sure votes don't get counted decides our winners.

In the lead-up to the 2004 race, millions of Americans were, not unreasonably, panicked about computer voting machines, "black boxes," that could flip your vote from John Kerry to George Bush. Images abounded of an evil hacker-genius in Dick Cheney's bunker rewriting code and zapping the totals. But that's not how it went down. The computer scare was the McGuffin, the fake detail used by magicians to keep your eye off their hands. The new black boxes played their role, albeit minor, but the principal means of the election heist-voiding ballots, overwhelmingly of the poor and Black-went unexposed, unreported and most importantly, uncorrected and ready to roll out on a grander scale in 2008.

I went to sleep election night with the exit polls showing Kerry ahead in swing states. But between 1:05 am and 6:41 am the next morning, goblins went to work. By dawn, the network's exit poll for Ohio showed Kerry dead even with Bush among women, and down by five percentage points among men.

What happened? Were thousands of Bush voters locked in the voting booths, released at 2am, then queried about their choices? Not quite. The network's polling company applied a fancy "algorithm," a mathematical magic wand, to slowly transform the exit polls to match the official count.

And that's bad. By deliberately contaminating the exit polls, the networks snuffed the canary that would signal that something was deeply wrong about the vote count.

Hunting for a Democrat to defend the Twilight Zone between the exit polls and the "official" polls, media grabbed on Dick Morris, Bill Clinton's old advisor. An expert at walking that fine line between minor criminality and psychopathic ambition, Morris knows which way his next client's wind blows.

Morris said:

"Exit polls are almost never wrong. So reliable are the surveys that actually tap voters as they leave the polling places that they're used as guides to the relative honesty of elections in Third World Countries. To screw up one exit poll is unheard of. To miss six of them is incredible."

His opening was promising, but then he switches into full Morris:

"It boggles the imagination how pollsters could be that incompetent and invites speculation that more than honest error was at play here."

So, Dick, you're telling us there was an evil cabal among six pollsters, competitors who don't even like each other, conspiring one dark night to make George Bush look like a vote thief.

There's another explanation: Kerry won.

We've got the body (the wounded elections), we've got the bullet holes (the missing votes), now where are the smoking guns? How does the GOP disappear the vote? And why do Democratic ballots spoil so much more readily than Republican ballots? How's it done?

But that little Bill O'Reilly in your head is screaming, Get over it; let's move on already. What they tested in 2000 and practiced in 2004, they are preparing to roll out in 2008 big time.

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Get the rest of the nasty truth about the election of 2004 and the program to steal '08 -- from Republican "caging lists," the "disappearing Democrats of Area 51," 50 illustrations and even weirder stuff in ARMED MADHOUSE: WHOSE AFRAID OF OSAMA WOLF?, CHINA FLOATS BUSH SINKS, THE SCHEME TO STEAL 2008, NO CHILD'S BEHIND LEFT AND OTHER DISPATCHES FROM THE FRONT LINES OF THE CLASS WAR, Greg Palast's newest exposé of war, oil, elections and class.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cantacceptreality; kerry; kerrydefeat; kook; loser; moonbat; palast; traitor
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1 posted on 05/13/2006 10:50:39 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

The voter fraud stories aren't quickly buried, they are quickly debunked and forgotten except in leftist circles.


2 posted on 05/13/2006 10:53:52 AM PDT by John Geyer
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To: LdSentinal

Ahh the hypocratic irony! Bush is too damn stupid to run the country, but an evil genius at stealing elections!


3 posted on 05/13/2006 10:56:34 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: LdSentinal
The evidence, Exit Polls and Dick Morris.

Yawn.

4 posted on 05/13/2006 10:56:46 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: LdSentinal

It continues to astound me that the Dems ran a man who is dumb as a stick, with obvious mental problems, and he came within a hair's breadth of winning. Then they ran a certified traitor, and he almost won.

Previously, they ran one of the sleaziest guys imaginable, and he did win. Twice.

Its a 50-50 country, and 50% of the country is not fit to run a convenience store, much less share in the great decisions of our time. Yikes.


5 posted on 05/13/2006 10:56:56 AM PDT by marron
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To: LdSentinal
The moonbats are still convincing themselves the moon is really made of cheese just like they believe America would really elect a French pretender as its President.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

6 posted on 05/13/2006 10:57:55 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: LdSentinal

I have a friend who sends me tripe from tompaine.com all the time. He's a moonbat like the rest of them. I just find their "thought" processes completely incomprehensible. Not because they're over my head - ha ha - but because they are completely crazy.


7 posted on 05/13/2006 10:58:42 AM PDT by xjcsa (Fight global climate stagnation!)
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To: LdSentinal
Maybe Kerry would have won if it had not been for "spoilage".

But the question in my mind is, do you really want people who are not smart enough to cast a ballet picking the people to lead them?
8 posted on 05/13/2006 11:00:16 AM PDT by MarkeyD (Make Love, Not Cartoons. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: LdSentinal

This is the same garbage they said about 2000.

However, one year after the 2000 election, several highly positioned media outlets joined forces, paid a huge sum of money to the state of Florida, and began a recount of all the ballots for 2000 in that state. This was a legal action, and the key was the huge some of money needed to pay for the Florida officials to provide all the ballots, and the necessary security for this activity to take place.

Guess what they found - BUSH STILL WON!! [and his count was even higher than the 537] However, the Miami Herald was the only paper who even printed a TEEENY-TINY article about it in the back pages of their paper.

The drive-by media wants to keep people stirred up and believing that Bush is not a legitimate President - but IT'S A LIE - AND THE MEDIA KNOWS IT.

This book will only play in KOOKSVILLE - but the general public will not be reading it because they already know it's a lie .. too bad the author doesn't know.

And .. I just can't help but wonder if Mrs. Heinz was behind the printing of this book .. just as her Poodle was about to make a run for the WH again ..??


9 posted on 05/13/2006 11:00:36 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: LdSentinal

Kerry won? Damm! I missed that!


10 posted on 05/13/2006 11:02:03 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Bommer

Nolt only what you said but he used sulfidated iron to blow up the WTC!!!


11 posted on 05/13/2006 11:02:22 AM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: xjcsa

Every election will be a stolen election until they win again. Notice they never say the Republicans stole 40 or 50 congressional elections. Get ready, its coming. Its part of their grieving process I guess.


12 posted on 05/13/2006 11:03:30 AM PDT by kylaka
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To: marron
It continues to astound me that the Dems ran a man who is dumb as a stick

Sticks everywhere are demanding an apology!

13 posted on 05/13/2006 11:06:05 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: marron
I've been looking to update my tagline and you did it for me. Thanks very much.

L

14 posted on 05/13/2006 11:06:07 AM PDT by Lurker (50% of the country is not fit to run a convenience store.)
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To: LdSentinal
In addition to the 3 million ballots uncounted due to technical "glitches," millions more were lost because the voters were prevented from casting their ballots in the first place. This group of un-votes includes voters illegally denied registration or wrongly purged from the registries.

This story is getting so old.

15 posted on 05/13/2006 11:07:04 AM PDT by FOG724 (A vote for Arnold is a vote for a Democrat)
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To: Panzerlied
Kerry won? Damm! I missed that!

I bbeeeellleeeeiiivveeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16 posted on 05/13/2006 11:07:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: LdSentinal

If I were ever "exit polled", I would tell them the opposite of what I did just to mess with them.

What if all the spoiled ballots where Bush votes? Why do they assume everything would fall to Kerry?


17 posted on 05/13/2006 11:07:40 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: LdSentinal

Man! I sure hope this guys mothership gets here soon and pick him up!


18 posted on 05/13/2006 11:07:54 AM PDT by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: Bommer
Ahh the hypocratic irony! Bush is too damn stupid to run the country, but an evil genius at stealing elections!

This has been a sore spot for the liberals from the very beginning. They (all of them) were absolutely convinced that Bush would be an easy target due to the fact (in their minds) that he was as dumb as a rock and unable to comprehend anything about the third grade level.

Not only has Bush outsmarted them at every turn, but he managed to win not one but TWO elections in a row.

Not bad for a drooling imbicile, eh?
19 posted on 05/13/2006 11:08:21 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Support American sovereignty - boycott employers of illegal aliens)
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To: marron
the Dems ran a man who is dumb as a stick,

Looks like a stick, moves like a stick and dumb as a stick. A true stick in the mud.

20 posted on 05/13/2006 11:09:29 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (islam is a mutant meme)
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To: LdSentinal

Reading this, I'm more confident than ever that we'll be able to blow these back-wards looking "progressives" out of the water in 2008.


21 posted on 05/13/2006 11:10:57 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (If you have burn a US flag, there's a chance that your patriotism will (rightly) be questioned.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

oops, tag fix


22 posted on 05/13/2006 11:11:22 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (If you have burned a US flag, there's a chance that your patriotism will (rightly) be questioned.)
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To: LdSentinal
NO, you are a looser; and you lost. Actually, you lost even thou you b*stards 'created' votes, by voting early and often, dead people voting, illegals voting; also by military ballots being nullified, attempting to deny even more military ballots, and other smaller tactics that do add up.

You have done that at least since the JFK election. Scum bags.

p.s. I also assume that everyone of the 3+ million votes Bush 'stole' were for the girlie man kerry. Never mind that in most of those cases, democrats were in charge. hahahaahha!!!!

23 posted on 05/13/2006 11:11:45 AM PDT by gedeon3
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To: Bommer
No, no. The theory is that Bush is just a sock puppet in the evil hands of KKKarl Rove and his heinous henchmen, who are the real brains of the operation. It's a undisputed fact that Bush is too stupid to qualify as a brick. At least in DUmmieLand. So it must be KKKarl.

After all, polls show that the American people are upset at Bush. Polls show that the American people agree with Dhimmicrats on all the major issues. We are just being "divided" by the evil Republicans on fake issues like abortion, gay marriage, Islamic terrorism, etc., beaks we are too damn stupid to "vote our own interests", i.e, higher taxes, more spending, open borders to keep our economy humming (whoops, better rephrase that one).

Polls. Aren't they some kind of statistics? What do they say about statistics and the three kinds of lies? Lie, Damned lies, and statistics.
24 posted on 05/13/2006 11:11:50 AM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: LdSentinal

Yeah, yeah, yeah...Gore won in 2000, Kerry won in 2004. If Hillary wins in 2008, I'd say there's ample precedent to let W serve her term. too.


25 posted on 05/13/2006 11:13:00 AM PDT by gundog
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To: LdSentinal

26 posted on 05/13/2006 11:13:16 AM PDT by Emmet Fitzhume (Mohammed received his inspiration from Satan. Read 2 Corinthians 11:14 for more information.)
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To: LdSentinal

The only real docutmented vote fraud/intimidation in 2004 was the thuggery that happened in Milwaukee.


27 posted on 05/13/2006 11:13:38 AM PDT by keithtoo ("Drilling in ANWaR is OK with us" - Alaskan Caribou Benevolent Association.)
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To: kylaka

Exactly right. There is no way a Republican can win, except by cheating. It's a classic case of projection when it comes right down to it.


28 posted on 05/13/2006 11:14:00 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (If you have burned a US flag, there's a chance that your patriotism will (rightly) be questioned.)
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To: LdSentinal

I visited the TomPaine.com website one time. I found it to be for kooks and weirdoes with no "common sense" and incapable of rational thought.


29 posted on 05/13/2006 11:14:19 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Remember the Alamo!)
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To: LdSentinal
And why do Democratic ballots spoil so much more readily than Republican ballots?

Ballots cast by felons and/or the walking dead just have a way of doing so, is all. Go figure, huh...?

30 posted on 05/13/2006 11:15:28 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: LdSentinal
"Greg Palast" ???

Enough said.Why waste my time

31 posted on 05/13/2006 11:16:10 AM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: LdSentinal

I completely agree with the author. Vote fraud is a severe problem that must be remedied as quickly as possible. I'm sure he would agree that verification of citizendhip should be required for registration, al previously registered voters should have to re-new every two years, photo ID should be required at polls, svere penalties should be required in cases of vote fraud, etc.


32 posted on 05/13/2006 11:16:48 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Every vote for a Democrat is a vote for $10/gallon gas.)
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To: marron

Well, in all fairness, a whole lot of us helped the sleezed one win by voting for Ross Perot -- something I wish the naysayers here on FR would keep in mind come November '06 and '08.


33 posted on 05/13/2006 11:16:56 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: LdSentinal

Ahhh, Greg Palast. I was wondering when that infectious piece of human waste would come crawling out of the septic tank once again, this is the same hate-filled, venom-dripping puke who wrote a disgusting hit piece aimed at Ronald Reagan right after his death in 2004. Take some Alka Seltzer first, it will nauseate you, but it ought to be required reading in order to fully understand the hate that consumes the left:

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=336&row=0


34 posted on 05/13/2006 11:18:00 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: freedumb2003

Beat me to it.


35 posted on 05/13/2006 11:18:10 AM PDT by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: xjcsa

I have an acquantance like that -- actually a couple of them -- and I've given up doing anything but laugh at the crazy pronouncements.


36 posted on 05/13/2006 11:18:10 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: LdSentinal
No wonder they love the Islamofascists...there both of the totally irrational nuts school of thought
37 posted on 05/13/2006 11:18:49 AM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back there race over country)
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To: FOG724

They are using Larry David as their source? He and his looney wife are soooooo reliable..


38 posted on 05/13/2006 11:19:00 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Exactly. His point of contention was that there were so many votes not counted. Could it be that that's proof of Democrat voting fraud and not Republican?


39 posted on 05/13/2006 11:19:49 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (If you have burned a US flag, there's a chance that your patriotism will (rightly) be questioned.)
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To: LdSentinal

You know what? I WISH AND HOPE THIS WAS TRUE. That would make his "loss" more painful just like it was for Al Gore that caused him to go on an eating binge and blow up like a Macy's Parade balloon.


40 posted on 05/13/2006 11:21:20 AM PDT by no dems (A Winning Campaign Theme for a Conservative in '08: "PUTTING AMERICA FIRST")
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To: LdSentinal
Kerry Won. Now Get Over It . . .

Who is this moonbat suggesting "get over it?"

If Kerry had won, he'd be in office; conservatives would have to get over it.

He didn't, he lost...moonbats should "get over it."

41 posted on 05/13/2006 11:21:31 AM PDT by Washi
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I don't know the name so I'll have to take your word for it.


42 posted on 05/13/2006 11:23:24 AM PDT by FOG724 (A vote for Arnold is a vote for a Democrat)
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To: LdSentinal
Olberwomann went on and on for days about the exit polls being more reliable than the actual votes.

Juan imbecile Williams lamented that same sorry song. Maybe the exit polls were right and the actually vote counts were wrong.

Insanity can be treated and my suggestion is that certain leftists need to seek help immediately.

43 posted on 05/13/2006 11:23:47 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: All

Mandate 2004- and some screaming from the Left
various FR links | 11-07-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1273872/posts

The Vote Fraud Archives
various links | 10-20-02 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/772470/posts


44 posted on 05/13/2006 11:23:57 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Semper Paratus
""Exit polls are almost never wrong. So reliable are the surveys that actually tap voters as they leave the polling places that they're used as guides to the relative honesty of elections in Third World Countries. To screw up one exit poll is unheard of. To miss six of them is incredible." "

There was another explanation that he never touched on though, that is to hand pick certain people to do the exit polls and then falsify the results so that the stupid media talking heads will call the election before the west coast is finished voting.

He is assuming that all the pollsters are unbiased and not trying to throw the numbers one way or another. If I remember correctly the ID's of these pollsters tended to be very heavy Kerry supporters, something this idiot never mentioned. Next election they need to carefully look at where the data is coming from and the people collecting it. If they only poll voters who come out with lets say a union coat on or certain bumper stickers on their car can skew the numbers heavily, since every polled voter represents dozens of other voters mathematically. I truly believe that there was voter fraud in the 2004 election, and the exit polls were where it was at. They knew that if Kerry won it would be buried, and if Bush won it would cause a shadow to fall over the election, a win/win situation for the Michael Moore fanatics.

45 posted on 05/13/2006 11:25:46 AM PDT by Abathar (Hillary's heart is so cold that even sunbathing her left nipple can cut glass...)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
a whole lot of us helped the sleezed one win by voting for Ross Perot

True enough.

I always blamed Perot and my friends who went for him. As the full truth about Clinton began to come out, and it became undeniably clear what kind of man he was, I was sure he had no chance for re-election without Perot's help.

Until election night in 1996, I was standing in line waiting my turn, and I took a good look at the people I was in line with. Thats when it suddenly hit me, we are toast. There is a portion of our population that is impermeable, unreachable, uninterested in classic liberal, conservative, constitutional principle. And if the Dems manage to mobilize them all on a given night, we have no chance.

It was fear of a repeat that mobilized all of our people to turn out in 2000 and 2004. I hope we are as scared in 2006 and 2008 or we will be steamrolled again.

Yeah, I'm nervous.

46 posted on 05/13/2006 11:26:20 AM PDT by marron
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To: freedumb2003

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't George Bush occupying the Whitehouse? If not, my mistake, I really have been sleeping ;->


47 posted on 05/13/2006 11:27:06 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: FOG724

Larry David was the creator of Seinfeld.


48 posted on 05/13/2006 11:31:34 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Texas Longhorns === National Champions !!!)
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To: LdSentinal
My question is...when was the last time a successful Republican candidate for President,the House,the Senate or a Governorship won his/her race without engaging in voter fraud?

My guess is that it's 1952.

49 posted on 05/13/2006 11:31:57 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: corlorde

*****Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't George Bush occupying the Whitehouse? If not, my mistake, I really have been sleeping ;->*****

haha, but much like Iraq, it was an illegal campaign and an illegal occupation!

=P


50 posted on 05/13/2006 11:32:38 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Texas Longhorns === National Champions !!!)
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