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Instapundit ^ | May 15, 2006 | GWB

Posted on 05/15/2006 5:14:48 PM PDT by Leisler

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To: Leisler
Hola, amigos! We'll have a 100 million in twenty years.

No, senor. We'll have 100 million by May 5, 2007.

51 posted on 05/15/2006 5:36:01 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Leisler

Step one is secure the borders. The rest, we can talk about after you secure the borders. Don't ask me to trust you on immigration reform if you can't even secure the borders.

If the borders are sealed, the problem becomes very solvable.

Fail to secure the borders, and nothing we do will work.


52 posted on 05/15/2006 5:36:56 PM PDT by marron
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To: Leisler

No surprises here:
"Mexico is our neighbor and our friend."
Yeah, that must be why they flood us with the dregs of their society and illegal drugs, and break our laws with impunity. Our amigos . . .
Oh, and the National Guard won't be actually doing anything along the border, just standing around with thumbs up their . . . how insulted must they feel?
But it's not amnesty, it's not amnesty, it's not amnesty . . .
Strange, isn't it? We will be able to supervise millions of our friends, Mexican lawbreakers: locate them, register them, take their digital fingerprints, supervise them in the payment of fines, and in leaving and returning--but it's unrealistic to think we could simply find them and deport them.
"I, George Walker Bush, do hereby swear that I will uphold and defend the Constitution of . . . "
Mexico!


53 posted on 05/15/2006 5:37:30 PM PDT by OkieDoke (Count me out Dubya: I'm a conservative)
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To: TexasPatriot8
Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.

I don't suppose I am the first person to note the oxymoron in your tag...?

54 posted on 05/15/2006 5:37:48 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: jess35

wonderful crack.


55 posted on 05/15/2006 5:38:10 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: bored at work

The speech was a disaster.


56 posted on 05/15/2006 5:38:17 PM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: angkor

Same speech, same do nothing.


57 posted on 05/15/2006 5:39:30 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Ol' Slick Willie at least got away with it. This is...*shudder*...Kerry-esque middle-of-the-rail politicking.


58 posted on 05/15/2006 5:39:31 PM PDT by Gorobei
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To: Admin Moderator
Time for Boxcars to the Borders!!!

Why is it wrong to want illegals hauled to the border and deported? I do believe that if you read the threads, about 90% of the people feel this way.

59 posted on 05/15/2006 5:39:45 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: raybbr
I just finished watching Bush's speech. I have to say that I was not disappointed. He said about what I thought he would say which was basically nothing. Basically, the NG troops will make dough-nut runs for the border patrol guys and that's about it. However, I watched Newt Gingrich on Tim Russert's Meet The Press yesterday and I like his ideas on the illegal immigrant issue. Also, when asked by Russert about running for prez, newt didn't "completely" rule out the notion. I know the guy has some baggage problems but I kinda think he might have possibilities...
60 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:56 PM PDT by snoringbear
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To: Leisler
...The men and women of our Border Patrol are doing a fine job in difficult circumstances – and over the past five years, we have apprehended and sent home about six million people entering America illegally...

...It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border....

Kinda contradicts himself here. Claims the US Border Patrol itself has 'sent home 6 million people in the past 5 years', he then later states the deportation canard that 'it is not realistic to round up millions of people'.

61 posted on 05/15/2006 5:41:33 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: mhking
Mexico is our neighbor, and our friend.

Yeah, my neighbors and friends all draw maps on how to break into my house and steal my valuables.

62 posted on 05/15/2006 5:42:01 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: cricket

Rounding them up is cost-prohibitive, I accept that argument, actually. But there are alternatives; start cutting off finaicial aid, driver's licences, medical coverage, and so on for anyone who cannot prove that they are an actualy citizen of the US of A. Make hiring illegals to work a felony.

They come here because the spigot is alwqays a'running. Flip the switch to "OFF". Simple.


63 posted on 05/15/2006 5:42:48 PM PDT by Gorobei
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To: Leisler

I'm wondering what Bush will say. I am living this Illegal Immigration nightmare everyday in California. But, it's a nightmare for a few reasons in particular

1. I'm trying to move from one place to another. So far, I've moved everything myself. I have couches and a washer/ dryer to move, and no moving company wants any part of it. Too small.

I've offered a couple of college kids 100 bucks to move these three items from my place to a place right across the street. No go. They want 100 a peice, and they warn me that if they get hurt, I should have insurance. (Do they intend to sue me?) They don't want the job otherwise. It would have taken them all of 30 minutes for everything.

So, I ask my Property Manager who would do it? He says "Pablo" I know Pablo. His plan is to go to the local 7-11 and pick up a couple guys. Pablo's guys will do it for the $100 of course.

I can't stand the options here. I will find a way, without using illegal help. $200 bucks is crazy, but I may have to do it.

2 We are having one hell of a time at work, replacing three housekeepers. It seems no one has the correct paperwork. We've already had two people fail background. When we try talking to a citizen (a woman we see here from time to time) , she don't want the job. We pay $11 an hour to start. Those are not "slave wages" The same person will gladly take $9 an hour to sell shoes at the local Payless.

I'm not trying to say what Bush will likley say "Jobs Americans just won't do" because I know that if I were in anyplace but Spanish-immersion land (California), it would be easier to find folks to do the work. This place is a mix of ME ME ME spoiled rotteness, and ego.

The real reason we're in this mess is becuase nothing has been done about it for so long that it's become a way of life. It's not that the girl I mentioned wouldn't work for $11 an hour, it's that she won't do that job at any reasonable price! She's been brought up to belive it's beneath her.

These are real problems, happening to real people. I'm not saying that folks from places like Ohio don't have a right to their opinions, but they certainly aren't experiencing this think first hand. Our Housekeeping Manager has had to work 16 hours a day. He's about to walk out himself.

So, I need solutions, not problems. Either I need an American or Registered Alien to take these jobs, or I need a guest worker. Either way, I've got work to be done.


64 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:08 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Constantine XIII

There'll be 200 million in 20 years, though.

Somehow we ended up with 60 million Irish when there were only about 3 to 5 million in all of Ireland. Thank God that they were willing to become true Americans.


65 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:17 PM PDT by dangus
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To: snoringbear

I'll vote for anyone who will enforce our laws. El Presidente's framed color photo is coming down off the wall and going into the closet.


66 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:23 PM PDT by OkieDoke (Count me out Dubya: I'm a conservative)
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To: Constantine XIII

There'll be 200 million in 20 years, though.

Somehow we ended up with 60 million Irish when there were only about 3 to 5 million in all of Ireland. Thank God that they were willing to become true Americans.
... well the Massachusetts Ireland excepted, of course...


67 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:38 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Gorobei

...to secure the border we must create a guest worker program."

What??? Somebody explain this one to me, please. I don't get it.


68 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:42 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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To: Leisler

"Second, to secure our border, we must create a temporary worker program."

What logic. LOL!

"This program would match willing foreign workers with willing American employers for jobs Americans are not doing."

LOL. All of the sudden new business lobbies will spring up, "Us too, us too, American are not doing the jobs we have!"


69 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:52 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Leisler

The solutions sounded rather cosmetic and without substance. I would have liked to hear some policy suggestions that would address the problem in a more comprehensive manner. Basically, he said, "we'll get to it - eventually".


70 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:52 PM PDT by virginiaspook
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To: Leisler
from the speech:
"English allows newcomers to go from picking crops to opening a
grocery … from cleaning offices to running offices … from a life
of low-paying jobs to a diploma, a career, and a home of their own.
When immigrants assimilate and advance in our society, they realize
their dreams ... they renew our spirit ... and they add to the unity of America."


So, once all the illegals have learned English and been made legitimate...
who will fill that pool of people that will do "Jobs That Americans
Won't Do"?

Hmmm...I guess that's when we'll be doing the next amnesty package.
Another 20 years from now.
71 posted on 05/15/2006 5:44:03 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Leisler; All

I'm surprised so many people are being so hard on Bush after that speech. He only said 90% of the things that people like Tancredo who are serious about border security have been calling for. I haven't been a Bush fan at all on domestic policy other than taxes, but I don't get all the hostility towards him by folks here. I mean, if he's serious and does what he says, how is it a bad thing??? Am I missing something?


72 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:16 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: Leisler
In the end he is giving amnesty, nothing to really secure the border, just great new ways to watch them pass by with all the new technical gadgets.

He suggested nothing that will get officers arresting illegals inland at all.
I also heard nothing about confiscating all their uninsured cars.
I heard nothing about the Feds starting to finance the billions upon billions of cost to the states in education, hospitals and lower wages on many skilled jobs as well as the cr@p jobs.
73 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:19 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Admin Moderator


I don't need no stinkin ticket, but I am not happy, and in all honesty, feel a bit betrayed.

Huck


74 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:52 PM PDT by I'll be your Huckleberry
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To: slowhand520

you know whatever. The onus was on Bush tonight to bring our party back together. He failed horribly. The Repubs can forget my vote in the fall. And I am not even kidding.


75 posted on 05/15/2006 5:46:17 PM PDT by steel_resolve (BUSH IS WHACK ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.)
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To: justa-hairyape
Kinda contradicts himself here. Claims the US Border Patrol itself has 'sent home 6 million people in the past 5 years', he then later states the deportation canard that 'it is not realistic to round up millions of people'.

I caught that too. If he can send home 6 million in 5 years, then why can't he send home just twice that many who are already here?

76 posted on 05/15/2006 5:47:37 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Bush just sold us out!
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He sold us out six years ago. This testimonial finally was the closure on the issue. Of course there was no mention of the impact on the country, the cost to American citizens, any of it. What a total crock of political crap from the El Jefe, the NWO sell out.

Bush just sang his swan song in my book.


77 posted on 05/15/2006 5:47:42 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Gorobei
Look at the verbal hoops he goes through to say it's not an amnesty:

Fourth, we must face the reality that millions of illegal immigrants are already here. They should not be given an automatic path to citizenship. This is amnesty, and I oppose it. Amnesty would be unfair to those who are here lawfully – and it would invite further waves of illegal immigration.

Some in this country argue that the solution is to deport every illegal immigrant – and that any proposal short of this amounts to amnesty. I disagree. It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border. There is a rational middle ground between granting an automatic path to citizenship for every illegal immigrant, and a program of mass deportation.

An amnesty is a forgiveness, an pardon of sorts. It's not "citizenship" or an automatic path to citizenship. Compounding these lies he cast his opponents as believing an "amnesty" is a "deportation" of "every illegal immigrant." I have never heard anyone say a deportation was an amnesty. Very tricky wordplay. He would have been better to be honest and not lie, eg "I said I was against an amnesty, I've changed my mind."
78 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:08 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Constantine XIII

They will reproduce.


79 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:13 PM PDT by PghBaldy (If my ancestors acted like the current crop of "immigrants", you would have to "press 2" for Polish.)
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To: snoringbear
However, I watched Newt Gingrich on Tim Russert's Meet The Press yesterday and I like his ideas on the illegal immigrant issue.

A big Amen! to that. I saw it too. Gingrich is far too smart for the GOP to put him up for president. He would make people like Rove, McCain, Specter, et. al. look like clowns.

80 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:15 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!)
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To: snoringbear

I totally agree with you about Gingrich. He's articulate, extremely well-informed, tough-minded, and has strong leadership qualities. He has ideas that he has been thinking carefully about. I was impressed with him on Russert.


81 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:55 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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To: StACase; Yo-Yo

He could have done more and he could have done what the last six Presidents have done which was nothing.


82 posted on 05/15/2006 5:49:14 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Viva la Migra!)
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To: Leisler
What incentive is there for the illegals to sign up to be legal citizens. If we do not put a certain date on them to sign up, are we going to deport them? Are we just going to let them run around the country with no enforcement or consequences. This whole amnesty thing raises more questions than it solves. What a mess. Things are going to get very ugly very soon. A real fence is the only answer.
83 posted on 05/15/2006 5:49:33 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: steel_resolve
Failed according to who? Good riddance. I guarantee if Bush begins to rebound you will be all gung-ho. You are typical. You don't mean what you say and it is evident. You are fooling nobody.
84 posted on 05/15/2006 5:49:34 PM PDT by slowhand520
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To: TexasPatriot8

Yep. This speech was called after that story broke. I believe the article did it.


85 posted on 05/15/2006 5:50:04 PM PDT by PghBaldy (If my ancestors acted like the current crop of "immigrants", you would have to "press 2" for Polish.)
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To: bigdcaldavis

Shamnesty is more like it.

Bush is nothing but a globalist sell-out. He can kiss my a$$.
__________________________

You don't have to agree with the man on everything - but he's the President. That office and the man that lead us through 9-11 and the following 5 years without another attack deserves respectful disagreement.


86 posted on 05/15/2006 5:50:13 PM PDT by justche ("Art, like morality, consists of drawing a line somewhere." G. K. Chesterton)
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To: TexasPatriot8

"Just my opinion, but I bet the Border Patrol story about them leaking
Minuteman and other border watch group location and numbers to
the Mexican Consulate is what made Bush have to get serious about
this. He’s been in trouble about the border for a long time, but I
think that might have pushed it over the edge."

That surely set off alarm bells in The Oval Office.
But, IMHO...
I suspect Tom Osburne's primary loss in Nebraska last Tuesday may have
been the "tipping point" wake-up call for Dubya:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1632158/posts

If supporting goodies for illegals gets Tom Osborne a smack-down
in Nebraska...that's a storm warning sign for other Republicans.


87 posted on 05/15/2006 5:50:22 PM PDT by VOA
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To: theDentist
what makes anyone think that if they take part in a work program and the end date arrives, that they'll show up (for a bus ride home)?

The constantly unanswered question is, "Why should any of these interlopers bother to jump through hoops for citizenship, or other legal status, when they have everything they want with the current status quo?"

88 posted on 05/15/2006 5:50:35 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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I won't vote for anybody who doesn't support strong border security...i.e. a wall....

I'll be home on election day....


89 posted on 05/15/2006 5:51:09 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: cricket
It is not a terrible situation except for the fact our government has made it that way. We can send the 11 to 20 million home. Enforce the existing laws and fine and jail employers, they will stop hiring, the ILLEGALS will go home, for the most part on their own, the rest we can round up and deport.

This crap about not being able to send them back is BS of the highest order and deserves nothing but ridicule whenever it is encountered. Only an idiot would believe amenesty could be good for the country, it wasn't in 86 and it isn't now. Unfortunately we have plenty of those idiots on FR.

90 posted on 05/15/2006 5:51:44 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: WestSylvanian

It's kinda how things used to be done to get the tomatoes planted and picked.

They came, did the work, went home til next season.

But we knew who, and where they were. Or supposed to be.


91 posted on 05/15/2006 5:52:03 PM PDT by digger48
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To: WestSylvanian
What??? Somebody explain this one to me, please. I don't get it.

He wants to funnel much of the current illegal traffic through the guest worker program so that workers will apply, have background checks done, and cross the border at established checkpoints. The problem is that the government is already doing this with tourist visa applicants and the process that is used is broken and no measures are being taken to remedy it. To the contrary, the Bush adm is looking to expand it.

92 posted on 05/15/2006 5:52:44 PM PDT by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: VOA
So, once all the illegals have learned English and been made legitimate... who will fill that pool of people that will do "Jobs That Americans Won't Do"? Hmmm...I guess that's when we'll be doing the next amnesty package. Another 20 years from now.

Bingo!

93 posted on 05/15/2006 5:52:47 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: TexasPatriot8
Well homeboy, I am a betting man by trade and if you like Houston now and you think this speech is aimed at making Harris county a more American city - then perhaps you might like to make a gentleman's wager on that huge increase in Presidential popularity?

Huck
94 posted on 05/15/2006 5:53:48 PM PDT by I'll be your Huckleberry
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To: TexasPatriot8
I agree with you in general, but it would be good to send 20,000 to hold the border initially and back off from that when technology is properly developed AND proven(physical obstruction of some type in most places).
95 posted on 05/15/2006 5:53:57 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: A CA Guy

"In the end he is giving amnesty, nothing to really secure the border, just great new ways to watch them pass by with all the new technical gadgets."

Someone pointed out this will be more expensive than a fence. For one, illegals will cross the border and still have to be processed.


96 posted on 05/15/2006 5:54:28 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Cowboy Bob

I voted for this man!!!!!!!!WHY!!!!!!!!!!


97 posted on 05/15/2006 5:54:57 PM PDT by Disgusted in Texas
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To: angkor
Why would he expect any of these interlopers to jump through hoops for citizenship or other legal status when they have everything they want now, with the status quo? What possible "incentive" could he offer someone to leave a possibly good job and settled life here and go home to mexico?

As always, there is no stick, and no carrot. Just talk.

98 posted on 05/15/2006 5:55:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Leisler

"We are a Nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. We are also a Nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are not contradictory goals – America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time."

True they are not contradictory. We welcome a million legally by our laws every year.

Bush is using shame and guilt again.


99 posted on 05/15/2006 5:55:47 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: PghBaldy

Well, so will we. :P


100 posted on 05/15/2006 5:57:39 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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