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Mexico Threatens Suits Over Guard Patrols
Las Vegas Sun ^ | May 16, 2006 at 14:11:22 PDT | MARINA MONTEMAYOR

Posted on 05/16/2006 2:15:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) -

Mexico said Tuesday that it would file lawsuits in U.S. courts if National Guard troops on the border become directly involved in detaining migrants.

Mexican border officials also said they worried that sending troops to heavily trafficked regions would push illegal migrants into more perilous areas of the U.S.-Mexican border to avoid detection.

President Bush announced Monday that he would send 6,000 National Guard troops to the 2,000-mile border, but they would provide intelligence and surveillance support to Border Patrol agents, not catch and detain illegal immigrants.

"If there is a real wave of rights abuses, if we see the National Guard starting to directly participate in detaining people ... we would immediately start filing lawsuits through our consulates," Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez told a Mexico City radio station. He did not offer further details.

Mexican officials worry the crackdown will lead to more deaths. Since Washington toughened security in Texas and California in 1994, migrants have flooded Arizona's hard-to-patrol desert and deaths have spiked. Migrant groups estimate 500 people died trying to cross the border in 2005. The Border Patrol reported 473 deaths in the fiscal year ending Sept. 30.

In Ciudad Juarez, Julieta Nunez Gonzalez, local representative of the Mexican government's National Immigration Institute, said Tuesday she will ask the government to send its migrant protection force, known as Grupo Beta, to more remote sections of the border.

Sending the National Guard "will not stop the flow of migrants, to the contrary, it will probably go up," as people try to get into the U.S. in the hope that they could benefit from a possible amnesty program, Nunez said.

Juan Canche, 36, traveled more than 1,200 miles to the border from the southern town of Izamal and said nothing would stop him from trying to cross.

"Even with a lot of guards and soldiers in place, we have to jump that puddle," said Canche, referring to the drought-stricken Rio Grande dividing Ciudad Juarez and El Paso, Texas. "My family is hungry and there is no work in my land. I have to risk it."

Some Mexican newspapers criticized President Vicente Fox for not taking a stronger stand against the measure, even though Fox called Bush to express his concerns.

A political cartoon in the Mexico City newspaper Reforma depicted Bush as a gorilla carrying a club with a flattened Fox stuck to it.

Fox's spokesman, Ruben Aguilar, said Tuesday that Mexico accepted Bush's statement that the sending in the National Guard didn't mean militarizing the area. He also said Mexico remained "optimistic" that the U.S. Senate would approve an immigration reform "in the interests of both countries."

Aguilar noted that Bush expressed support for the legalization of some immigrants and implementation of a guest worker program.

"This is definitely not a militarization," said Aguilar, who also dismissed as "absolutely false" rumors that Mexico would send its own troops to the border in response.

Bush has said sending the National Guard is intended as a stopgap measure while the Border Patrol builds up resources to more effectively secure the border.

In Nuevo Laredo, across from Laredo, Texas, Honduran Antonio Auriel said he would make it into the U.S.

"Soldiers on the border? That won't stop me," he said. "I'll swim the river and jump the wall. I'm going to arrive in the United States."

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Associated Press Writer Mark Stevenson in Mexico City contributed to this report.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; countersue; mexico
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1 posted on 05/16/2006 2:15:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Someone wanna tell me how a foreign country even has standing in a US court to file a lawsuit? This is nuts!
2 posted on 05/16/2006 2:16:54 PM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

a wall, more troops, crocodiles? (someone earlier suggested high powered lasers)


3 posted on 05/16/2006 2:17:34 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Mexico is our friend"


4 posted on 05/16/2006 2:17:39 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is a joke.... right??


5 posted on 05/16/2006 2:18:17 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I've now deleted three possible responses because this is just too funny. Sad, but funny, too.

If they'd put this much effort into making their country someplace people would want to LIVE IN, they'd really have something!

6 posted on 05/16/2006 2:19:15 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Real Conservatives don't sit home on election day)
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To: teletech

Is this story from Scrappleface???


7 posted on 05/16/2006 2:20:08 PM PDT by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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To: TChris
Someone wanna tell me how a foreign country even has standing in a US court to file a lawsuit?

Only if WE allow it!!!!!

8 posted on 05/16/2006 2:20:16 PM PDT by chit*chat
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To: TChris
Someone wanna tell me how a foreign country even has standing in a US court to file a lawsuit? This is nuts

I'm surprised Bin Laden hasn't sued us.....

9 posted on 05/16/2006 2:20:18 PM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


10 posted on 05/16/2006 2:20:19 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: TChris
"Someone wanna tell me how a foreign country even has standing in a US court to file a lawsuit? This is nuts!"

Meet RINO Senator Arlen Specter and Supreme Court Justice Breyer...


11 posted on 05/16/2006 2:20:37 PM PDT by lormand (Michael Weiner, aka Michael Savage - The Al Gore of Conservatism)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just filing the briefs that American lawyers won't file.


12 posted on 05/16/2006 2:20:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (FR's most controversial FReeper)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Has there ever been a time in our history where this nation has been as much of a doormat as it is today? Mexico is just rubbing it in at this point. This story is the equivalent of a Terrell Owens touchdown dance. You've scored the touchdown, Mexico- you control our Congress and Presidency. No need to do a Mariachi dance in the end zone.

I am sincerely distressed at what this nation has become. It's like this nation is just getting worse and worse and more of a joke with each passing year.

Someone talk me out of this despondency.


13 posted on 05/16/2006 2:20:53 PM PDT by Altair333
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Mexican border officials also said they worried that sending troops to heavily trafficked regions would push illegal migrants into more perilous areas of the U.S.-Mexican border to avoid detection.

It stinks to have natural borders. Maybe they'll complain that the Rio Grande is too deep in some places and the US must fill it in.

-PJ

14 posted on 05/16/2006 2:21:02 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Mexico telling us how to patrol our border. Isn't that precious?


15 posted on 05/16/2006 2:21:08 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good. Then, as the defendant, we have the right point out that Mexico have no leg to stand on considering their own immigration laws.


16 posted on 05/16/2006 2:21:55 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is this from The Onion?


17 posted on 05/16/2006 2:21:57 PM PDT by P-40
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To: Darkwolf377

That's the thing that gets me, too. It seems no one in Mexico is pointing the finger at their own government where the blame rightfully belongs.


18 posted on 05/16/2006 2:22:31 PM PDT by texas_mrs (Immigrants made this country great - Illegal immigrants are now destroying it)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
yes. I saw and heard this with my own eyeballs, today, on Fox News cable station. Now, I am sitting here thinking on how if I go on another person's property, myself, and that person objects, that the next thing that happens is that I get warned and depending on circumstances, maybe thrown in jail for Breaking The Law
19 posted on 05/16/2006 2:22:42 PM PDT by onyx eyes (...is it a butterfly dreaming of being a man...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
oh no! the mexicans are going to file suit? ouchywawa!

On a serious note Im sure our courts will usurp their constitutional authority and tell the American people that we have no right to defend ourselves - of course the decision will be backed by most RINOs in govt.
20 posted on 05/16/2006 2:23:01 PM PDT by sasafras (("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom)
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To: TChris

You forget how some of
our Judges are ruling of
late.


21 posted on 05/16/2006 2:23:04 PM PDT by Grendel9 (u)
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To: TChris

I agree,....totally nuts!


22 posted on 05/16/2006 2:23:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Mexico said Tuesday that it would file lawsuits in U.S. courts if National Guard troops on the border become directly involved in detaining migrants.

...and the Bush adminstration says NOTHING as they high five each other over last nights SUPPOSED great speech and then put their heads in the sand!

23 posted on 05/16/2006 2:23:44 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This means...

War!


24 posted on 05/16/2006 2:23:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bring it on! Sue us ya termites! This will clarify to the US public exactly what we are dealing with. The hostile pissant nation of Mexico


25 posted on 05/16/2006 2:23:48 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: saganite
It will be interesting to see who our government appoints to protect Mexico's interests in our courts.
26 posted on 05/16/2006 2:23:51 PM PDT by fantom
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To: TChris

Un-freakin'-believable. I sometimes feel like throwing my hands up and giving up. This is outrageous!


27 posted on 05/16/2006 2:24:28 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

These are the words of a HOSTILE foreign power.... they can't wave a saber against the USA so they threaten to tie up our officials in our own courts. Gee, they sound like they've studied the ACLU leftist moonbat playbook.


28 posted on 05/16/2006 2:24:43 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
it might be suggested that our local jurisdictions may sue for every incidence of drug running the apprehend , and that we might sue the Mexican Army for their implications in the same as well.
29 posted on 05/16/2006 2:24:51 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Mexico says they'll sue us if we enforce our laws. The ACLU will probably take the case for them and our country will pay the attorney fees. Grrrrrrrrrrrr!


30 posted on 05/16/2006 2:25:08 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A foreign country meddling in our internal politics is basis for declaration of war. I wonder what Tom Tancredo has to say about this unrelenting pressure by the Government of Mexico?
31 posted on 05/16/2006 2:25:12 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Mexico said Tuesday that it would file lawsuits in U.S. courts if National Guard troops on the border become directly involved in detaining migrants.

How about Mexico get their rag tag Army up here and try to stop us from doing whatever we want to do within our own borders. Bring it on.

When was the last time that the U.S. sued the Mexican government for deploying their troops along our border to aid and abet human traffickers and drug smugglers?

32 posted on 05/16/2006 2:26:13 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Altair333

"Someone talk me out of this despondency"

Would if I could, but seriously, is there any hope? It sounds so "DU" to talk about looking for greener pastures, but really, can this country be saved from the illegal invasion?


33 posted on 05/16/2006 2:26:20 PM PDT by goalinestan (Build it...and they won't come (as easily))
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To: LeoWindhorse
There is a Sheriff in Oregon that sent Vincente Fox a Bill for $300,000 for care and feeding of some of his citizens....
34 posted on 05/16/2006 2:27:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: TChris

I would like to know what LAW the U.S. government broke?


35 posted on 05/16/2006 2:27:16 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; LongElegantLegs; radar101; RamingtonStall; engrpat; HamiltonFan; Draco; ...

South Taxes Ping!


36 posted on 05/16/2006 2:27:38 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Taxes-beyond your expectations!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Mexico Threatens Suits Over Guard Patrols

You can't make this stuff up folks
37 posted on 05/16/2006 2:28:09 PM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: Revolting cat!
This means... War!

Mexico has been violating several treaties for years. Their first act of war was committed long ago. This latest is from a long series of such acts.

38 posted on 05/16/2006 2:28:18 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Dashing Dasher; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; najida; teenyelliott; Maximus of Texas; EX52D; ...

Ggrrrrrr..ping!


39 posted on 05/16/2006 2:28:27 PM PDT by Millee (Tagline free)
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To: Spiff

They won't even send their Army to Neuvo Laredo to stop the Gang Wars and violence just across our Borders...


40 posted on 05/16/2006 2:28:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: TChris

I have to keep a distance from all this, as I think I am going nuts when I hear this sort of stuff coming from Mexico....think about the future with 10 to 20 million Mexicans here, and Mexico calling the shots...


41 posted on 05/16/2006 2:29:06 PM PDT by thinking
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Who's country is this anyway?


42 posted on 05/16/2006 2:30:09 PM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Mexican government is shooting itself in the foot. PR-wise, this is a really lousy move. Plus - they would probably lose.


43 posted on 05/16/2006 2:30:28 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

44 posted on 05/16/2006 2:30:48 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: Altair333

passing year...how about each passing week


45 posted on 05/16/2006 2:30:50 PM PDT by thinking
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What the hell? Mexico sends its army onto U.S. soil so they can protect drug traffickers, and yet think they have the right to pitch a fit about our deploying the National Guard to keep their damned invaders out?
46 posted on 05/16/2006 2:31:43 PM PDT by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Mexico said Tuesday that it would file lawsuits in U.S. courts if National Guard troops on the border become directly involved in detaining migrants.

Hey Mexico


47 posted on 05/16/2006 2:33:08 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)
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To: Millee

It seems many other countries have figured out that the way to get what they want is through our court system, and the ACLU.


48 posted on 05/16/2006 2:33:13 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BRING IT ON!

(It's just part of the charade...)


49 posted on 05/16/2006 2:33:51 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: Millee

I can't read any more about this. I get so mad!


50 posted on 05/16/2006 2:34:03 PM PDT by Auntbee (I have become comfortably numb.)
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