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Rep. Mike Pence: Our Last, Best Hope
humanevents ^ | 5-17-06 | Robert Bluey

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:01:52 AM PDT by Gipper08

President Bush and Senate Republicans have given conservatives little to cheer about lately, but over in the House of Representatives, a band of conservative Republicans have held firm in conservative principles.

Thanks to the hard work and determination of Rep. Mike Pence (Ind.), chairman of the Republican Study Committee, conservatives still have hope for the future of the GOP.

Pence, the 2005 HUMAN EVENTS Man of the Year and the first member of Congress to start a blog, spoke to a group of 16 conservative bloggers during our weekly bloggers’ briefing today in Washington. Despite the troubles facing his party, Pence offered a positive, can-do message.

If Republicans are to have a chance this November, Pence said the GOP needed to get back to the basics on three issues:

Limited government Fiscal discipline Rule of law “If we fail to do these things,” Pence told us, “I think this fall could bode very ominous for the life of the conservative movement.”

When asked if a GOP loss of Congress might awaken the party, Pence said such an outcome would be disastrous. He cited the Democrats’ willingness to increase the size of government and abandon the U.S. effort in Iraq as reasons frustrated Republicans ought to think twice before pulling the lever for a Democrat this fall.

Pence said he foresaw conservatives’ displeasure early in President Bush’s first term when a group of 25 House Republicans stood firm in opposition to the No Child Left Behind Act. He said it happened again with the Medicare prescription drug bill—the largest entitlement since LBJ.

Other topics on Pence’s mind:

He opposes the 527 “reforms” supported by House leadership. Pence told us Republicans are headed down a path that will eventually restrict nearly all freedom afforded to Americans when it comes to elections.

He said Republicans need to stand up for a free-market economy. The GOP’s willingness to go along with price-gauging legislation was a mistake, Pence said.

It’s inexcusable that Republicans aren’t able to get a bill passed to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil exploration.

When asked about immigration, he said, “It’s a safe bet the Senate will produce a bad bill on any topic.” He said House Republicans are resigned to the fact that the Senate will pass a bill that includes some form of amnesty. Coming soon: Pence plans a major speech at the Heritage Foundation next week to make the case for a guest-worker plan. Yes, you read that correctly. Pence will throw his weight behind the Krieble Foundation’s guest-worker plan, which would require illegal immigrants to leave the United States and then apply for re-entry. More on that later.

UPDATE -- 10:45 p.m.: A couple other bloggers at today’s meeting have reports on Pence’s talk.

Larry Scholer of the Heritage Foundation’s Policy Blog:

Pence focused his remarks on campaign finance reform, immigration reform, and energy. He has long been an opponent of campaign finance reform, from McCain-Feingold to the 527 reform recently passed by the House. For Pence, more freedom is the answer to 527 reform. Moreover, he worries that restricting political speech leads down the slippery slope to even more government intrusion in the daily lives of Americans. "We are on the road to serfdom in the American political debate," he said.

Tim Chapman of Townhall’s Capitol Report:

Pence drove home the need for "environmentally responsible oil exploration" and his idea is one worth considering. As gas prices continue to rise, those who oppose ANWR drilling will be forced to reconcile their cries for lower gas prices with their insistance that America not explore oil resources within our own borders.

Mr. Bluey is editor of Human Events Online.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; mikepence; pence; pence2008

1 posted on 05/17/2006 7:01:53 AM PDT by Gipper08
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To: Txsleuth; ovrtaxt; Justanobody; Happy2BMe; sam_whiskey; Scholastic; nonliberal; writer33; ...

MIke Pence ping


2 posted on 05/17/2006 7:02:53 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08

3 posted on 05/17/2006 7:03:43 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08

The way things are going....and the schizo minds of many Republicans, especially in the Senate...

I have a feeling that by this time next year, Pence's name may be the only candidate for POTUS that is CLOSE to what conservatives want.

Hopefully, c-span will record and show Pence's speech at the Heritage Foundation.

Thanks for the ping, Gip.


4 posted on 05/17/2006 7:10:32 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Gipper08
Thanks for the update, Mike is one I can support 100%.
5 posted on 05/17/2006 7:11:57 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Gipper08; Vision; ConservativeDude; Individual Rights in NJ; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; ...

Pence Ping


6 posted on 05/17/2006 7:16:32 AM PDT by theworkersarefew (pence08.com)
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To: Gipper08; Vision; ConservativeDude; Individual Rights in NJ; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; ...

Pence Ping


7 posted on 05/17/2006 7:16:53 AM PDT by theworkersarefew (pence08.com)
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To: Gipper08

Hmmm......Pence/Tancredo 2008 or Pence/Coburn? Could this be the season for a VIABLE 3rd party? I'm so sick of sending ahem, CONSERVATIVES to the Congress and have them acting like anything BUT when they get up there!:(


8 posted on 05/17/2006 7:22:13 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Gipper08

Pence is as good as it gets. But I wonder if he has the charisma to win.


9 posted on 05/17/2006 7:23:46 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: Vision
Pence has more charisma than anyone in the field including GiuLIANI.People of all parties love him personally.He gives speeches that are very charismatic.He needs to work on the charisma in his tv interviews though(still better than anyone in the field save Giuliani)
10 posted on 05/17/2006 7:26:16 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08

Newt can win. He's perfect on immigration and that will vastly overcome whatever baggage he may have. Newt/Pence would be great.

I'd like to hear arguments from anyone who thinks Newt is too damaged to run.


11 posted on 05/17/2006 7:31:52 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: Vision
HOw about this? Newt's personal life makes Bill Clinton look celibate.Newt is the main reason the Republican Revolution died with his caving in on the Budget in 95 -96 .ever since, this party has forever more been the party of Big Government.Newt started it.Newt rolled back many of the reforms passed in the CONTRACT.Newt was the biggest PIMP there was with the Medicare bill two years ago admonishing Pence and the other conservatives "for being out of touch with political realities".The Medicare Bill is the biggest mistake in the History of the GOP.Newt's negatives are in the forties already.People do not like NEWT personally.
12 posted on 05/17/2006 7:40:44 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Vision

I like Newt, in fact, I like him a lot.

But a lot of Christian conservatives point out that he is a serial adulterer. Alas, that is true and that is no small negative in my mind, nor in the minds of social conservatives.

Pence has none of the baggage that Newt has. He is the only legitimate conservative in the Reagan tradition (ie, no snarl). My fear is that he won't run this time.

Some day he WILL run...this is obvious just as it was obvious that starting in 1966 Reagan was going to run. What we need to do is make sure that when he runs, he has an army that is like Reagan's in 1976 ALMOST unstoppable, and then in 1980, was in fact, ACTUALLY unstoppable.

The paralells between now and the early '70's are too great to ignore. We are now the party of Gerald Ford. But that is going to change. Hopefully sooner rather than later.


13 posted on 05/17/2006 7:41:26 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Gipper08

Thanks for the ping Gipper! Mike sounds better and better.

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=IN06&VIPID=952


14 posted on 05/17/2006 7:44:24 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: Gipper08

The country needs this man as President!


15 posted on 05/17/2006 7:46:03 AM PDT by Gritty (Compelled ethics is an oxymoron and a poor substitute for real integrity - Mike Pence)
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To: Gipper08

"Goldwater in '64!"

"In your heart, you know he's right."

/'60s flashback


16 posted on 05/17/2006 7:50:38 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: ConservativeDude; Gipper08

Do you know any specifics about his adultery?


17 posted on 05/17/2006 7:51:06 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: Gipper08
Wasn't Newt cuddling up with her royal heinousness not long ago about medical record keeping or some such?
18 posted on 05/17/2006 7:52:09 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: Vision

Only that he is on his third marriage (I think) and this one is to a former staffer (I think) who was on his staff while he was married to his second wife. In addition, I don't think that his first divorce was all that amicable, either, because of the presence of another woman.

That's my understanding, but if that is not correct, I welcome someone to set the record straight.


19 posted on 05/17/2006 7:57:44 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Vision

Newt is too damaged to run. Newt doesn't have a base. Newt is the architect of the Impeachment in many peoples minds and will never get over it. Newt left his dying wife, blah, blah, blah. Lately hasn't Newt been buddying up with Hillary? Newt is too intellectual to be a good leader. He gets caught up in academic trends. Newt had to pay one trillion dollars in campaign fines while being put in a pillory by the House Ethics Committee. Newt resigned in disgrace, over something. The Contract on America failed. It was ruled unconstitional by judges.

This is what will be said.


20 posted on 05/17/2006 8:01:09 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

The line about divorcing his wife on her deathbed is phony.


21 posted on 05/17/2006 8:05:33 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: ConservativeDude; Jack Black

Who do you want to run in '08?


22 posted on 05/17/2006 8:06:12 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: Dawgreg

Pence/Sessions or Sessions/Pence?


23 posted on 05/17/2006 8:11:46 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Vision

You know, in a thread about Romney, I was putting that same question to the folks that were hammering him. The point is well-taken, and I certainly don't want to be a naysayer.

In fact, I would say of those that are looking but not for sure running, Newt would actually be near the top for me. I would personally prefer Newt to Allen, who appears to be the "conservative" front runner.

Good grief. I would think that in a country of 265 million people, some 50 million of whom are probably legitimately conservative, we could do better than George Allen. How I wish Charlton Heston were not old and frail.

Now, all that said, I would definitely like to see Pence run. But I fear a) that he won't, and b) if he does, he will no longer be a Congressman and then he will retire from public life. This is unacceptable as Pence simply must carry our banner someday.

As between those that are currently running, I like Giuliani least. I like Romney, as I think he is a capable and serious human being. I fear he is not a conservative. I like Allen less, because though he might be instinctively conservative, I fear he is not a capable or serious human being.

I like Newt a lot and certainly wish he were our Speaker, or that he had served his full 8 years. But Newt is far from perfect as previously noted. He may never be President, but he has a role to play, I think.

At the end of the day, I want a man who can say that he is against prescription drugs, against McCain Feingold, for the war on terror, against wild spending, for entitlement reform, pro life and pro marriage (period...no exceptions...as if we should be trying to nuance these issues), and for appointing Thomas/Alito/Scalia types to the courts. And that he can do all of the above without looking like a crank. So far only Pence can do that. Which is a sad commentary....


24 posted on 05/17/2006 8:17:15 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Gipper08

good stuff!


25 posted on 05/17/2006 8:19:25 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/gasoline_and_government.htm)
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To: ConservativeDude
Allen should not be supported. He's already talking about making an official congressional apology for slavery.

I'm telling you, Newt is the best we have.
26 posted on 05/17/2006 8:24:47 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: LadyNavyVet

Does Sessions want to run?


27 posted on 05/17/2006 8:25:24 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: Vision

I don't know; I say we draft him.


28 posted on 05/17/2006 8:28:56 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Vision

Sadly, you may be right. We are the party, after all, that nominated Gerald Ford in 1976 and Bob Dole in 1996.

Which means that we better get ready for President Hillary. If that happens, though, I anticipate that there will be a conservative revival and our guy will sweep her out in 12.


29 posted on 05/17/2006 8:31:43 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: LadyNavyVet

What do you know about him?


30 posted on 05/17/2006 8:32:37 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: ConservativeDude

Keep your chin up American

http://www.misterpolitics.com/videos.asp?video=MP-reagan.mov

"There is nothing wrong with America that Americans can't fix"- Reagan

"America's best days lie ahead. You ain't seen nothing yet"- Reagan

"All great change in America begins at the dinner table."
—Farewell Address to the Nation, The White House, January 11, 1989


31 posted on 05/17/2006 8:34:52 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: Vision

"Allen should not be supported. He's already talking about making an official congressional apology for slavery."

This is, by the way, pathetic. But not at all surprising.

As if a giving the descendants of slaves yet another opportunity to have a heightened sense of indignation will anyone some good.

The apology for this came in the form of amending the Constitution. But given what I have heard come out of Allen's mouth about his knowledge of con law, I'm not sure he even knows what the 13th amendment is. For example, he keeps saying that Roe v Wade has been interpreted in such a way as to make outlawing abortion by a state unconstitutional. Hmmm...I'm not sure that it's an issue of interpretation, Senator. That is precisely what this diabolical case says.

Now, to Allen's credit, I know that Fred Barnes and others are saying that he is really being the genius here and making a nice little rhetorical tap dance in order to advance the life agenda - the point being that most Americans (erroneously) think overturning R v W would outlaw abortion. Therefore most Americans are not for that. So, Allen comes along and says that he is not for overturning R v W, BUT just for a reinterpretation of it. If he's serious, then he's not pro life as there is no way R v W can be "reinterpreted" to allow passage of things like that SD law (which incidentally Allen wouldn't answer whether he would sign or not...even McCain said he would sign it if he were governor of SD!). Alternatively, Allen is NOT serious and knows full well that he is trying to pull a fast one on the American people by trying to be pro life without being offensive. Even if he is sort of a Rovian genius, I don't think that is what this country needs.

We need a straight up man who will use the Constitutional authority of the Presidency as well as the bully pulpit to simply advance a conservative agenda.

From what I have seen, Allen is not that man.

(As always, though, if he is our nominee...I'll vote for him, just as I voted for Dole. Hell, I even had a Dole bumper sticker).


32 posted on 05/17/2006 8:45:45 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Vision

Newt Gingrich is a train wreck. He needs to go home and teach.

Mike Pence is the future.


33 posted on 05/17/2006 8:47:18 AM PDT by colonel mosby
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To: Vision

I love Ronald Reagan.

Why every Republican politician doesn't try to be just like him, I simply do not understand.

A while back I posted his great Time for Choosing speech in 64. It is unbeleivable!


34 posted on 05/17/2006 8:48:31 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude
You mean the one with this...

"This is the issue of this election. Whether we believe in our capacity for self government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite, in a far distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves" - Reagan October 27, 1964
35 posted on 05/17/2006 8:51:15 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: Vision

I'd like to hear arguments from anyone who thinks Newt is too damaged to run.




The only thing I would say is family values...he has none. but if we are going left on that topic than I would take him for the War on Terror. I would still think he would be horrible example for the American families. How could he possibly be able to discuss gay marriage when he has made a mocary of marriage himself. That is my only critism of him.


36 posted on 05/17/2006 8:54:53 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: ConservativeDude
They can't be like him, because he was the real deal. He is among the few presidents who were born into a poor family.

He grew up needing to help support his family. His father was a pass out in the front yard drunk. Those kind of issues tempered his character and gave him an understanding and perspective on challenges in life. What we need are politicians with character. Character above self interest.
37 posted on 05/17/2006 8:59:16 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: Vision

Beautiful.


38 posted on 05/17/2006 8:59:20 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude; Gelato

Placemark.


39 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: LadyNavyVet
Pence/Sessions or Sessions/Pence?

Please tell me you don't mean Pete Sessions. He's a reliable conservative voter, but he doesn't have the intellect to be President. Also, if you ask me, he's a little wierd.

40 posted on 05/17/2006 12:39:05 PM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: Texas Federalist

Jeff, the Senator from Alabama, not Pete. Forgot about Pete. Should've made myself clear.


41 posted on 05/17/2006 1:36:58 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Vision

I know he actually reads bills before he votes on them.


42 posted on 05/17/2006 1:38:08 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: LadyNavyVet

That's a great ticket. I love Jeff Sessions.


43 posted on 05/17/2006 4:32:36 PM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: LadyNavyVet

Yep, Sessions is one of the few good men on Crapitol Hill. (Too bad I can count em' on one hand). I am SO ready for a 3rd party.......a REAL Conservative one. *~*


44 posted on 05/17/2006 7:41:32 PM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Gipper08

"Pence will throw his weight behind the Krieble Foundation’s guest-worker plan, which would require illegal immigrants to leave the United States and then apply for re-entry."

Nice that he's serious about illegal immigration.


45 posted on 05/17/2006 7:59:41 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: Gipper08
"When asked if a GOP loss of Congress might awaken the party, Pence said such an outcome would be disastrous."

This is the tragedy of making bad choices. Republicans have become a lot more like the so-called "conservative" Democrats of yesteryear. Now we are being asked to support RINOs for fear that we are going to get the real socialists. Pence offers a spark of real hope, but a great number of his party, particularly those in the Senate, look hopeless to me.

Here is my ping for Pence!

46 posted on 05/18/2006 7:50:53 AM PDT by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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To: Gipper08
bttt (catching up bump)
47 posted on 05/24/2006 2:48:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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