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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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1 posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:59 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
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To: Pukin Dog
Remember Ross Perot (and the wonderful thing he gave us)


2 posted on 05/17/2006 7:50:09 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Pukin Dog

As big as this site is its a drop in the political bucket ...no one should loose site of that fact and we should continue to attack each other with good humor


3 posted on 05/17/2006 7:51:17 AM PDT by woofie (Another actor with political ideas.................John Wilkes Booth)
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To: Pukin Dog
Good rant Pukin'.

If we're not in this effort for the long haul, then we will eventually lose.

4 posted on 05/17/2006 7:51:55 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thanks Dog. You nailed it.


5 posted on 05/17/2006 7:52:14 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Pukin Dog

It's that horse-barn thing. Too late.


6 posted on 05/17/2006 7:53:35 AM PDT by pissant
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To: sarasota
Y'all cant read that fast.
7 posted on 05/17/2006 7:54:01 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent rant, Pukin. Timely and much-needed. You have nailed it. Thank you for saying it.

The endless Bush-bashing and relentless negativism are draining, counterproductive and sad. We used to gloat when watching the Dims tear each other apart. And now we are doing the same.

I believe in President Bush. I believe good Republicans will win in November. But I believe it won't happen magically. We have to make it happen.


8 posted on 05/17/2006 7:54:08 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Pukin Dog


You have to know the afers are scurrying to publish as I'm typing...lol.


9 posted on 05/17/2006 7:55:28 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Pukin Dog
I got your back on this one Dog.

I was close to quitting FR altogether.

The rancor, name calling and non-stop Bush Bashing must come to an end.

I will hang on and fight, but it is nice to know there are still a few of us around.

Cheers,

knewshound

Coming soon to a City near you !

10 posted on 05/17/2006 7:55:59 AM PDT by knews_hound (Driving Liberals nuts since 1975 !)
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To: Pukin Dog

Good, healthy rant.


11 posted on 05/17/2006 7:56:19 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Pukin Dog
**** (use you imagination) anyone that helps libs and dims. ANYONE!!! Thank you for the great rant PD.

LLS
12 posted on 05/17/2006 7:56:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire?

***************

Sure. Rub it in.

13 posted on 05/17/2006 7:57:05 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Pukin Dog

agree 100pct


14 posted on 05/17/2006 7:58:07 AM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: trisham
LOL.
15 posted on 05/17/2006 7:58:30 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: pissant

"It's that horse-barn thing. Too late."


For you maybe, but many of us are not ready to quit.

LLS


16 posted on 05/17/2006 7:58:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Can I disagree with you on one monor point?

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them.

At this time, our real enemy is Al Queada, and extremist Muslims. The democRATs and the MSM are the opposition. At least up until they start harboring the real enemy (They're pretty close on that point) and wishing harm or death for Americans (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on that one).

17 posted on 05/17/2006 7:58:54 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Great post! Everyone should read, understand and commit to your suggestion--a return to honor. Spirited discussion is one thing, stooping to trite and worn derision is another.
18 posted on 05/17/2006 7:58:57 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Pukin Dog
Ping and bookmark and HEAR HEAR!!

VERY well said, and Thank you!

19 posted on 05/17/2006 7:59:01 AM PDT by Desert_Girl (You don't have to be American to be caucasian and you don't have to be a citizen to be legal!)
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To: Pukin Dog
why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR?

You first. Then the House. Then the Senate. Then the state houses and senates.

It's really okay to be pissed off at your representatives and to express that displeasure via ink -- virtual or real, between election days.

20 posted on 05/17/2006 7:59:16 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Well said..BTW..check out my new tag line


21 posted on 05/17/2006 7:59:28 AM PDT by ken5050 (GWB, Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, freed hundreds of millions.# of Nobel PeacePrizes: ZERO)
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To: Pukin Dog
Y'all cant read that fast.

Cant sing that fast either. ;-)

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

22 posted on 05/17/2006 7:59:31 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Pukin Dog

Another BUMP for excellence in freeping!


23 posted on 05/17/2006 7:59:32 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Glenn

Love your tag line....:)


24 posted on 05/17/2006 8:00:08 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Pukin Dog

The victory of conservatism won't come in my lifetime, but it's defeat could if we let it.


25 posted on 05/17/2006 8:00:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Pukin Dog
we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair.

This is the bottom line. Exellent rant, Pukin; too bad it's so necessary on FR.

26 posted on 05/17/2006 8:00:28 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: pissant
It is never too late. November is a long way away. When Lincoln gave that speech, a lot of people though it was too late back then. Today, we are the greatest nation in the history of the world.
27 posted on 05/17/2006 8:00:37 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Thank you. You are exactly right.

The attack on Laura Bush made me realize I have been too quiet while the trolls took over. I will no longer be silent and let those threads go on and on with their mindless, unopposed degradation of everyone in this administration.

I will henceforth be engaging and refuting lies, as well as paying attention to comments which bring dishonor to this site.

Thanks for the post, and thanks for inspriting me to get involved again!

28 posted on 05/17/2006 8:01:31 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks.

I agree they ought to be regarded with general respect; but this would be a much easier request if they, in turn, spoke & acted respectfully toward us.

29 posted on 05/17/2006 8:01:40 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Thanks for the rant - a bunch of supposed freepers have benn causing me no end of distress in their willingness to jump out of the pan and back into the fire. It would seem that many of them are suffering the same amnesia that the average Dim/MSM suffers when established facts become inconvenient.

God Bless

30 posted on 05/17/2006 8:02:44 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Pukin Dog

Preach it, brother! I'm with ya'!


31 posted on 05/17/2006 8:02:55 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: The_Victor
Without Democrats and the MSM, Al-Queda is a pin-prick. If our media were reporting on our success in Iraq, those bastards would have no place to run, no place to hide. With Democrats leaking to the MSM, they provide cover to those rats. THEY ARE THE ENEMY.
32 posted on 05/17/2006 8:03:02 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

hear hear.


33 posted on 05/17/2006 8:03:37 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (It takes courage to live. Hence, the "culture of death...")
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To: Pukin Dog
All good points. What we see happening is not unique to George Bush, I have known lots of republicans who helped put in ultra liberals at all levels, because by staying home they were going to teach the republicans to be more conservative. In every case I have followed, the republicans have never gotten the seat back and the liberals now have it locked up.

The only solution is to elect additional conservatives to Congress. We can't have a democrat president, for the good of the nation. Republican presidents will remain conservative in general. The House already is doing a good job.

I submit the obvious. The RINOsin the Senate have made a disgrace of the republican majority in many cases (not all). We need additional conservative Senators. That should be the goal.

34 posted on 05/17/2006 8:03:49 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Pukin Dog
we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican

I just hope we can find enough who aren't going all squishy on us like the ones who need replacin'!
35 posted on 05/17/2006 8:03:56 AM PDT by texas_mrs (Immigrants made this country great - Illegal immigrants are now destroying it)
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To: Pukin Dog

Very good!

*I'm mailing a vicious (but professional) letter to Mel Martinez detailing his flip-flops on immigration (or lies on his resume). I can't believe this guy. I'm very unhappy with my Jr. Senator.


36 posted on 05/17/2006 8:03:56 AM PDT by LubyGee (Insert something witty)
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To: Pukin Dog

For those of us (and I believe there are many) on FR who are tired of the Bush-bashing, I think this thread is a good database to ping each other when we encounter it. I will do that.


37 posted on 05/17/2006 8:04:18 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: Sloth

I don't think that George Bush has attacked you personally, and I know for darn sure Laura hasn't. Unless you can show me a quote where either one of them called Sloth a traitor or said you were in the pay of some foreign organization, you don't have a leg to stand on.


38 posted on 05/17/2006 8:04:40 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Sloth
if they, in turn, spoke & acted respectfully toward us.

Risking his life on a daily basis aint enough for you? Perspective, brother. Perspective.

39 posted on 05/17/2006 8:04:41 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I'm not a republican to start with. But it's not me that has given up, but lots already have.


40 posted on 05/17/2006 8:04:49 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Fudd Fan; Pukin Dog
we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair.

I've gotta bump that!

41 posted on 05/17/2006 8:04:53 AM PDT by colorcountry (He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Great Rant Pukin'!

I wrote to one of my favorite radio personalities the other day and told him that his latest rant was nothing more than disrespect for the office of the President, and I won't be listening anymore.

The President hasn't done all that I'd have liked, but we're almost 5 years down the road from 9/11 and we have not been attacked again. I would have never imagined that on 9/12...and I think we have President Bush to thank for that. Plus the economy has rebounded and that's another thing that I would not have imagined.

Two conservative Supreme Court Justices is also a plus for the President.

He's not a dictator, some posts make me think that the poster believes the President can snap his fingers and a problem is solved. Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that, and with the latest venom being directed toward the immigration issue...well that problem has been with us for years, and is not easily solved, so why all the uproar, all of a sudden.

Only explanation, IMHO, is that the Dems are trying to stir up the "political pot" because of the upcoming election.


42 posted on 05/17/2006 8:04:55 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Pukin Dog

Great rant Pukin, you hit it right on the head with this one.


43 posted on 05/17/2006 8:04:57 AM PDT by Abathar (Helen Thomas's first job was the test dummy at the Ugly Stick Manufacturing Co.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Your intolerance of parsley is disturbing.

Thank you for this rant. The Dem were on the ropes a year ago, and they have only gotten more obnoxious in their pathological hatred of this President.

Yet all they have to do is set back and watch this all crash at our feet over an issue that was here 6 weeks ago, 6 months ago, and more than 6 years ago.

Some were not going to be satisfied unless they were told that the 50 foot high wall will be done by the end of the week, and shoot-to-kill orders are given.

So in their little tantrums, they're willing to turn it over to those who will ABSOLUTELY do just the opposite of what they demand.

Makes alot of friggin sense.


44 posted on 05/17/2006 8:04:58 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Pukin Dog

BIG PD BUMP !!!!!


45 posted on 05/17/2006 8:05:07 AM PDT by A message
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm with you Mr. Dog. I've fought many of those battles and been called many of the names you mentioned. One quick correction, Lincoln Chafee is from Rhode Island not Massachuesetts...not that it really matters. When you look at New England all you see are Democrats except for Mitt Romney and it seems he can't get out of Massachusetts fast enough.


46 posted on 05/17/2006 8:06:11 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Pukin Dog

The politeness level here has really declined . I'm all for good-hearted ribbing, but some of the threads I have been lurking lately are down-right nasty.

Heck, just look at some of the nice Keywords on this thread.


47 posted on 05/17/2006 8:06:40 AM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Pukin Dog
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways?

Pukin, I worked my rear off and contributed the max to both of his campaigns. I support him in the WOT and the appointment of judges. I supported him in the appointment of Miers, when most in this forum were against him. I respect the president. However, I do not support his position on immigration, but I agree we need to attack the issue and not the man or office. Also, we need to fight againt DemonRats. That said, I know all too well you do not support conservative views on the immigration issue. You have even boasted of your hiring illegal aliens to do work around your home.
48 posted on 05/17/2006 8:06:49 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Pukin Dog

What I meant was that its too late for freepers to be undivided. Some will bolt the GOP, others will continue to support it, others will sit on their hands.

And regardless, we will still be the greatest nation.


49 posted on 05/17/2006 8:06:54 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Miss Marple

What was said about Laura? Don't know how I missed it


50 posted on 05/17/2006 8:06:54 AM PDT by digger48
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