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Senate Votes to Build 370-Mile Triple-Layered Fence on Mexican Border
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Posted on 05/17/2006 12:05:20 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns

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To: Roscoe Karns

This wall won't even cover of a quarter of the border.

6000 unarmed troops and now a tiny wall. They must really think we are stupid…

This is smoke and mirrors to hide the real issue of amnesty for millions of invaders who will keep coming.


51 posted on 05/17/2006 12:15:36 PM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: saganite

LoL while that is pretty funny it probably would be just as effective to put it in South Mexico.


52 posted on 05/17/2006 12:16:23 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Republican Red

Actually no. But, you just go on thinking that anyone who disagrees with the President hates him. It's way easier that way.
susie


53 posted on 05/17/2006 12:16:36 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Bikers4Bush
How much do we already have constructed, 350 miles?

Yep, great question. Inquiring minds want to know!

54 posted on 05/17/2006 12:17:18 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Bikers4Bush
How much do we already have constructed, 350 miles?

Twenty miles.
55 posted on 05/17/2006 12:17:36 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Rummyfan

Don't worry, it will get built.

This project is going to turn into a bottomless barrel of pork.


56 posted on 05/17/2006 12:17:38 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


57 posted on 05/17/2006 12:17:49 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: MikeWUSAF

Agreed. This fence will be built when?? In what year?Anyways, it's cover to allow millions upon millions of illegal aliens and the wives and children. The impact on welfare, housing and medical (all gubbermint provided) will be humongous


58 posted on 05/17/2006 12:18:01 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Roscoe Karns

Great. This is progress.


59 posted on 05/17/2006 12:18:07 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Roscoe Karns

Someone better check the fine print to make sure it's not a fence to protect them from over-zealous border agents during their entry into our country.


60 posted on 05/17/2006 12:19:14 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Roscoe Karns

61 posted on 05/17/2006 12:19:34 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Roscoe Karns

Watch them appropriate it, then not fund it (/sarcasm)


62 posted on 05/17/2006 12:19:58 PM PDT by 11th_VA (UNITED 93 - Everything you need to know about Islam)
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To: Roscoe Karns

Yeah and you know this will be a govt. booondogle that is about worthless.
How much overbudget will it be?
How effective will it be?

But we had high tech cameras monitoring it and a small blimp. But no border agents or military.


63 posted on 05/17/2006 12:20:28 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Shermy
Thank God! Now I will accept an increase to green cards and immigration by the 10s of millions! Not.

They are trying everything they can to sweeten the bitter pill of amnesty they are hell bent on us taking. Sort of like Jack Bauer:

You probably don't think that I can force this towel down your throat. But trust me, I can. All the way.

They'll force the Amnesty towel down our collective throats if they must, but they are seeing if we will take it willingly, with enough half-baked, half-hearted gestures.

64 posted on 05/17/2006 12:21:47 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Brilliant

Who could pass up such a deal?


65 posted on 05/17/2006 12:21:48 PM PDT by isrul
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To: Roscoe Karns

How the heck did they come up with amount of 350 miles? Who was the idiot who thought that only 350 miles of fence will stop illegals from coming.


66 posted on 05/17/2006 12:21:53 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Rummyfan
Three-hundred-seventy mile....... what about the other sixteen-hundred miles?

You read my mind.

67 posted on 05/17/2006 12:22:15 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Roscoe Karns

What about the other 1630 miles of the border. How are we going to protect that? I want a fence along the whole border.


68 posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:06 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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Anyone wants to venture a guess on what type of fencing this will be? Chain link? Razor wire? Decorative? (HeeHee)

I wonder if Halliburton will be hired in a no-bid contract to construct it.


69 posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:16 PM PDT by standingfirm
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To: Roscoe Karns

Pretty sure that is a fence across Arizona....good for them...they get 6500 invaders A DAY


70 posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:16 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Roscoe Karns

Claymore mines are cheaper.


71 posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:23 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: areafiftyone
How the heck did they come up with amount of 350 miles? Who was the idiot who thought that only 350 miles of fence will stop illegals from coming.

I think it was the big fat swimmer?

72 posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:29 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Rummyfan

The 370 mi includes fence already constructed. so the final number of miles could be much less.


73 posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:33 PM PDT by isrul
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To: Joe Boucher

Don't worry, it's a Government project. It will be completed under budget and on time just like the Big Dig! /sarcasm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dig
The Big Dig is the unofficial name of the Central Artery/Tunnel Project (CA/T), a massive undertaking to reroute the Central Artery (Interstate 93), the chief controlled-access highway through the heart of Boston, Massachusetts, into a 3.5 mile (5.6km) tunnel under the city, replacing a previous elevated roadway. The project also included the construction of the Ted Williams Tunnel (extending Interstate 90 to Logan International Airport) and the Zakim Bunker Hill Bridge over the Charles River.

The Big Dig is the single most expensive highway project in American history. Although the project was estimated at $2.5 billion in 1985, when the last major highway section opened in December 2003, over $14.6 billion had been spent in federal and state tax dollars in the over 20 years since the project's conception. However, according to a former state official, "they just picked $2.5 billion to get it rolling -- everyone knew that was a lie." [1] The project was replete with delays, arrests, escalating costs, leaks, poor execution and use of substandard materials. The Massachusetts Attorney General is demanding contractors refund taxpayers $108 million for "shoddy work."[2]


74 posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:33 PM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: areafiftyone
How the heck did they come up with amount of 350 miles? Who was the idiot who thought that only 350 miles of fence will stop illegals from coming.

It's exactly half of what the House voted for in their bill, which tells me they are using the remaining half will get built if the House votes for amnesty.
75 posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:59 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Rummyfan
There are already many other parts that are already walled or fenced such near San Diego.

What is the total including this 370 mile proposal ... I cannot answer.

76 posted on 05/17/2006 12:24:12 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: standingfirm

Maybe an inviting little white picket fence! ;)
susie


77 posted on 05/17/2006 12:24:22 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Roscoe Karns
I heard the House wants a 700 mile fence 12' high.

If it was up to me we'd have this:


78 posted on 05/17/2006 12:25:04 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Roscoe Karns
Is this a separate bill or just added to the amnesty bill?
79 posted on 05/17/2006 12:25:19 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Rummyfan
Three-hundred-seventy mile....... what about the other sixteen-hundred miles?

That's easy. They are going to do build it in 370 individual one-mile stretches separated by six miles. Problem solved.

80 posted on 05/17/2006 12:25:27 PM PDT by Lekker 1 (("Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau" - I. Fisher, Yale Econ Prof, 1929))
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To: rolling_stone

They need a full border barrier.


81 posted on 05/17/2006 12:25:41 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: MikeWUSAF

Well, the Big Dig is in nortoriously corrupt Boston. Federal projects in the Southwest have a better history (think Hoover Dam). Best let Trump do it: he'd come in on time and under budget.


82 posted on 05/17/2006 12:26:18 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Roscoe Karns

Tell them to put a ZERO on the end of that number and that's a good start. 3700 NOT 370


83 posted on 05/17/2006 12:26:20 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The social contract is breaking down.)
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To: dennisw
The impact on welfare, housing and medical (all gubbermint provided) will be humongous.

Amnesty is the poison pill - the Senate will keep adding benefits until no one can resist.

At this point, no bill is better than ANY bill that has a legalization provision.

I'd rather give up on employer sanctions, border wall, repatriation, etc ie preserve the status quo, than to cave on amnesty.

84 posted on 05/17/2006 12:26:42 PM PDT by lemura
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To: Khepera
It SOUNDS good. The coyotes, drug smugglers, and Mexican military (sometimes all one in the same) have vehicles capable of jut crossing elsewhere. And to pedestrian amigos, it isn't even an issue.
85 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:32 PM PDT by isrul
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To: brytlea

I just noticed your tagline...thanks for it. Some people need a picture drawn for them.


86 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:33 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

I got tired of having to look it up for people. ;)
susie


87 posted on 05/17/2006 12:28:40 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: demlosers

Hopefully not this

88 posted on 05/17/2006 12:28:48 PM PDT by standingfirm
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To: lemura

89 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:12 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: MikeWUSAF

I'm guessing it'll be a half-ass fence built by illegals being paid union wages.

(3 slinkys on top of each other for 1 billion dollars)


90 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:12 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (lead ,follow or get out of the majority.start with our borders.)
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To: Roscoe Karns
Construction will probably start several years from now.

We "can't afford a fence", but we can "afford" billions of dollars to support illegal aliens.

Washington hypocrisy. I'll believe it when I see the construction start.

91 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:14 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: danneskjold

that's a better idea, Ragnar... :-)


92 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:21 PM PDT by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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To: isrul

Sorry I am a little confused. Do you have a link to show that includes fences and walls already built?


93 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:26 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Khepera; Shermy
This is better than it sounds.

Much of southern AZ, NM and West Texas are extremely harsh. There is even a region called the Journey of Death (in Spanish of course) in southern NM.

There is no barrier, BP effort etc. that can stop the flow entirely but walls/fences/vehicle barriers used in the right areas will make a difference.

Obviously, we block the most easily travelled areas first.

My main concern is that they won't even do that much.

94 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:33 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Roscoe Karns
SA 3979. Mr. SESSIONS submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S. 2611, to provide for comprehensive immigration reform and for other purposes; which was ordered to lie on the table; as follows:

Strike section 106, and insert the following:

SEC. 106. CONSTRUCTION OF STRATEGIC BORDER FENCING AND VEHICLE BARRIERS.

(a) Tucson Sector.--The Secretary shall--

(1) replace all aged, deteriorating, or damaged primary fencing in the Tucson Sector located proximate to population centers in Douglas, Nogales, Naco, and Lukeville, Arizona with double- or triple-layered fencing running parallel to the international border between the United States and Mexico;

(2) extend the double- or triple-layered fencing for a distance of not less than 2 miles beyond urban areas, except that the double- or triple-layered fence shall extend west of Naco, Arizona, for a distance of 10 miles; and

(3) construct not less than 150 miles of vehicle barriers and all-weather roads in the Tucson Sector running parallel to the international border between the United States and Mexico in areas that are known transit points for illegal cross-border traffic.

(b) Yuma Sector.--The Secretary shall--

(1) replace all aged, deteriorating, or damaged primary fencing in the Yuma Sector located proximate to population centers in Yuma, Somerton, and San Luis, Arizona with double- or triple-layered fencing running parallel to the international border between the United States and Mexico;

(2) extend the double- or triple-layered fencing for a distance of not less than 2 miles beyond urban areas in the Yuma Sector; and

(3) construct not less than 50 miles of vehicle barriers and all-weather roads in the Yuma Sector running parallel to the international border between the United States and Mexico in areas that are known transit points for illegal cross-border traffic.

(c) Other High Trafficked Areas.--The Secretary shall construct not less than 370 miles of triple-layered fencing which may include portions already constructed in San Diego, Tucson and Yuma Sectors and 500 miles of vehicle barriers in other areas along the southwest border that the Secretary determines are areas that are most often used by smugglers and illegal aliens attempting to gain illegal entry into the United States.

(d) Construction Deadline.--The Secretary shall immediately commence construction of the fencing, barriers, and roads described in subsections (a), (b), and (c) and shall complete such construction not later than 2 years after the date of the enactment of this Act.

(e) Report.--Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall submit a report to the Committee on the Judiciary of the Senate and the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives that describes the progress that has been made in constructing the fencing, barriers, and roads described in subsections (a), (b), and (c).

(f) Authorization of Appropriations.--There are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary to carry out this section.

95 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:45 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: LS

McCain just voted with the
Democrats again. I've been
listening for the past hour
to the Live Senate voting.
I haven't heard a word or even
seen Frist. Spector is running
the show with great deference to
Kennedy, Obama, and Reid.


96 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:54 PM PDT by Grendel9 (u)
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To: LS

Rove told lawmakers Bush is sincere about enforcement. But, he added, “The president doesn’t want to enforce immigration law because he’s afraid he’ll inconvenience someone who wants to come into the country for a better life.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838263


97 posted on 05/17/2006 12:30:35 PM PDT by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: LS
Teddy Kennedy is going to lay down along the border?

That'd turn the border into a valley quick.

98 posted on 05/17/2006 12:31:19 PM PDT by mafree
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To: plain talk
I think we would all like to see something much more ambitious than this, but hey, this is a start. At this point, I'll take what I can get and work toward adding a stronger solution later.
99 posted on 05/17/2006 12:31:24 PM PDT by Livin_large
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To: Rummyfan

Three-hundred seventy mile propsal from the Senate
sixteen hunderd from the House
nine-hundred fifteen from Conference?


100 posted on 05/17/2006 12:31:38 PM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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