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MURTHA ACCUSES THE MARINES
boortz.com ^ | 05/18/06 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 05/18/2006 10:02:17 AM PDT by Pokey78

Pennsylvania Democrat John 'cut and run' Murtha, the Congressman from Al-Qaeda, has once again opened his mouth and stirred a little controversy. He is accusing the United States Marines of killing Iraqi civilians...on purpose, in cold blood.

This time he is referring to a March incident that was reported in Time magazine and one that the military is investigating.  The story goes that 15 Marines walked right into a civilian house throwing grenades and shooting...killing 15 Iraqis, including women and children.  That's right...the U.S. Marines go around killing innocent people for no reason.  That must be some military we have!

According to Murtha: "Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."  Murtha knows this, of course, because he was there.  Except he wasn't.  Perhaps he should keep his mouth shut until the investigation concludes.

Just whose side is he on, anyway?  It doesn't appear to be ours.  He's sure lovin' the controversy though.  Hey, I wasn't a Marine, but I grew up in the Marine Corps.  I can tell you that no Marine worth his salt is ever going to accuse another Marine of murdering someone in cold blood unless he has the incontrovertible evidence to prove the charge.  So ... Murtha the Mouth ... let's see it!


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: codepink; exmarine; haditha; johnmurtha; marinecorps; marines; murtha; ucmj; usmc
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1 posted on 05/18/2006 10:02:19 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
I so hope Irey beats him like a rented @$$!
2 posted on 05/18/2006 10:03:49 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (To McCain a piece of legislation is to gutlessly not vote on it to avoid going on record.)
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To: Pokey78
I can tell you that no Marine worth his salt is ever going to accuse another Marine of murdering someone in cold blood unless he has the incontrovertible evidence to prove the charge.

Precisely.

3 posted on 05/18/2006 10:04:23 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: .cnI redruM

Is that possible?


4 posted on 05/18/2006 10:04:52 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Pokey78

Can we get a barf alert added to the title?


5 posted on 05/18/2006 10:05:39 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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To: Pokey78
Just another traitorous lie... the usual deceitful democrat stab in the back.


6 posted on 05/18/2006 10:05:51 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
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To: Pokey78
Just whose side is he on, anyway?

That's a trick question,isn't it?

He's on Pelosi's side.Or is it Dean's side?

7 posted on 05/18/2006 10:06:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Pokey78

Murtha is doing this to innoculate himself from corruption charges. If you come after him it's because of his leftist, antiwar statements and not because he was steering contracts to a company employing his brother and former staff member Carmen Scialabba. Plain and simple


8 posted on 05/18/2006 10:07:07 AM PDT by paddles
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To: Pokey78

NBC Pushes as 'New' Murtha's Stale Charge
About Civilians Killed

On the six month anniversary of Democratic Congressman John Murtha's successful publicity stunt call for the U.S. to withdraw from Iraq, Wednesday's NBC Nightly News jumped on the chance to highlight Murtha's charge that last November some Marines deliberately killed more than a dozen innocent Iraqi civilians. But in treating Murtha as some kind of authoritative figure making "new allegations," NBC ignored how the fairly well established as accurate charge (pictures exist of the immediate aftermath and three Marine officers were relieved of their commands) is old and has already been widely-reported -- including on the March 20 NBC Nightly News.

Brian Williams touted: "There are disturbing new allegations tonight from the Congressman and decorated Marine veteran who stunned the Bush administration about six months ago with his call for U.S. withdrawal from Iraq." Following a rundown from Jim Miklaszewski of the allegations, Williams trumpeted Murtha's credibility and relevance: "Jim, we should go over again, why is it significant that John Murtha is the one saying this?" Miklaszewski responded with Murtha's argument that the event bolsters his political point as to why the U.S. should leave Iraq, preceded by the misnomer that Murtha had "recently" turned against the war: "It's important because as somebody who recently turned against the war, Murtha held this up today as one of the reasons the U.S. military should get out of Iraq as soon as possible."

[This item was posted Wednesday night on the MRC's blog, NewsBusters.org. To share your views, go to: newsbusters.org ]

Back on the Monday, March 20 NBC Nightly News, Miklaszewski himself outlined the November incident:
"A team of Naval investigators on its way to Iraq tonight where 12 US Marines are accused of killing 15 Iraqi civilians including seven women and three children in a vengeful rage after one of their fellow Marines was killed by a roadside bomb. The incident occurred last November in the town of Haditha. Marines had originally claimed that some of the civilians were killed with a subsequent firefight with insurgents when the insurgents used the civilians as human shields, but many Iraqis, including medical staff who examined the bodies, said it appeared all of the civilians were shot with some precision and at close range. The formal criminal investigation was opened after some of the Marines had changed their original stories, and at least one military official said if the revised accounts from some of those Marines is true, this could get very ugly."

On the same night's CBS Evening News, Lara Logan filed a story on the incident and David Martin followed up on the Friday, April 28 CBS Evening News in a story he began: "Pentagon officials tell CBS News the evidence turned up so far shows American Marines deliberately shot Iraqi civilians, including women and children, and tried to cover it up." CNN aired stories in April and early May. A quick search via Nexis located dozens of print articles published throughout April in major newspapers and the wire services.

Nonetheless, NBC apparently saw another chance to champion Murtha. (To mark the six month anniversary of Murtha's November 17 attack on Bush's Iraq policy, Chris Matthews made Murtha his lead guest on Wednesday's Hardball on MSNBC and gave him air time to attribute the November incident to excessive "pressure" felt by stressed Marines forced to serve in a misguided war.)

The November 18, 2005 CyberAlert item, "Nets Lead With Murtha, Highlight His Ridicule of Cheney's Lack of Military Service," recounted how the networks embraced Murtha, including the way Brian Williams led the NBC Nightly News by promoting his supposedly unique newsworthiness:
"Good evening. When one Congressman out of 435 members of Congress speaks out against the war in Iraq, it normally wouldn't be news, but it was today because of who he is. Congressman John Murtha, a Vietnam veteran, a Democrat from Pennsylvania, is a 37-year veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps, who voted for both gulf wars. Vice President Cheney once called him one of his strongest allies in Congress back when Cheney ran the Pentagon. Today, John Murtha said the U.S. must get out of Iraq. It's a debate that has followed President Bush halfway around the world. We begin tonight with NBC's David Gregory, who's traveling with the President in South Korea." For more: www.mediaresearch.org

The MRC's Brad Wilmouth corrected the closed-captioning against the video for the May 17 NBC Nightly News story. Brian Williams introduced it:
"There are disturbing new allegations tonight from the Congressman and decorated Marine veteran who stunned the Bush administration about six months ago with his call for U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. Tonight Congressman Jack Murtha, a Democrat from the state of Pennsylvania, is in the news again, and in a big way, accusing U.S. Marines of killing innocent civilians in cold blood. We're joined for more on this story tonight by our NBC News Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski. Jim, good evening."

Jim Miklaszewski: "Brian, this all stems from an incident that occurred last November, and today the military's investigation is still dragging on. From the very beginning, Iraqis in the town of Haditha claimed U.S. Marines deliberately killed at least 15 unarmed Iraqi civilians, including seven women and three children. This young Iraqi girl claims the Marines killed six members of her family, including her parents. 'The Americans came into the room where my father was praying,' she says, 'and shot him.' Today, in a remarkable statement in Washington, Democratic Congressman John Murtha claims it's true."
Rep. John Murtha (D-PA), in press conference: "There was no firefight. There was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."
Miklaszewski: "Military officials today tell NBC News the Marine Corps' own evidence appears to show Murtha is right. The Marines first claimed the civilians were killed by the same IED that also killed a fellow Marine or were caught in a crossfire between the Americans and the enemy. But military officials say Marine Corps photos taken immediately after the incident show many of the victims were shot at close range in the head and chest, execution style. One photo shows a mother and young child bent over on the floor as if in prayer, shot dead. One military official familiar with the investigation says it appears the civilians were deliberately killed by the Marines who were outraged at the death of their fellow Marine. Three Marine officers, commanders in Haditha, have been relieved of duty. At least 12 Marines in all are under investigation for what would be the worst single incident involving the deliberate killing of civilians by U.S. military in Iraq. And because the investigation is still open, the Marine Corps said today it can't comment on the case, but one military official tells us this one is ugly. Brian?"
Williams: "And, Jim, we should go over again, why is it significant that John Murtha is the one saying this?"
Miklaszewski: "Well, as a former Marine, he's considered pretty close to the Corps still, and one of the Capitol Hill's ultimate military insiders. In fact, one of his aides said today Murtha got his information from military officials. And it's important because as somebody who recently turned against the war, Murtha held this up today as one of the reasons the U.S. military should get out of Iraq as soon as possible."

Criticizing the war was not new for Murtha in November of 2005. As the May 7, 2004 MRC CyberAlert noted, Ted Koppel featured Murtha's anti-war take as he "opened the May 6 Nightline, over video of bomb-damaged trucks and Humvees and a wounded U.S. soldier: 'No one ever said it would be easy, but few predicted it would be like this. Today, the most hawkish Democrat on the Hill said this: [Murtha]: 'We can not prevail in this war at the policy that's going today.'"


9 posted on 05/18/2006 10:09:22 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Pokey78

http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2006/cyb20060518.asp#1


10 posted on 05/18/2006 10:09:44 AM PDT by digger48
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To: paddles

You realize that the Marine Corps can recall him to active duty and then court martial him, taking his rank, retirement check, and all other honors. The Corps has done this in the past. Would love to see that.


11 posted on 05/18/2006 10:10:18 AM PDT by tigtog
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To: tigtog

When and to whom?


12 posted on 05/18/2006 10:15:08 AM PDT by twigs
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To: .cnI redruM

he is a JERK!


13 posted on 05/18/2006 10:15:42 AM PDT by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: Pokey78
The DUmmies think Murtha is great for saying this, and are pissed that Ward Churchill is finally catching heat.

It's incredible to me that the Left actually cheers for the other side. They really hate America. I can't even begin to comprehend that mindset. I hate liberals.

14 posted on 05/18/2006 10:15:44 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

the left and NBC hate AMERICA and our troops.

Shameful!


15 posted on 05/18/2006 10:16:48 AM PDT by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: theDentist

That's a nice visual.


17 posted on 05/18/2006 10:21:21 AM PDT by TechnicalEcstacy (Ann Coulter - want to touch the heiny - aaoowwwooo!)
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To: Pokey78

What a party, even the "conservatives" are traitors.


18 posted on 05/18/2006 10:23:28 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: Pokey78

The deranged traitor speaks again!

I cannot believe these Dems. are so set on bringing down the president they'll slander our troops with even the thinnest of evidence, this coming from an "Iraqi Human Rights" group, shorthand for "Anti-American Leftists Out to Get the US Expelled from Iraq ASAP." Sorry, but it's going to take far more than some insurgent front organization to convince me. And Murtha damned well better be prepared to apologize on bended knee to every Marine currently serving for slandering them when this is all proven to be the B.S. it no doubt is.

And to further claim our Marines are not properly trained...how dare him! But anything to attack Bush, even if it means smearing brave Marines. And this is the political party Americans want to put back in charge of Congress. I give up...


19 posted on 05/18/2006 10:23:31 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House)
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To: All

He is aligned with CodePink, who graciously gave $600,000 to Fallujah's terrorists. He is helping the enemy, even if he doesn't believe it.


20 posted on 05/18/2006 10:25:26 AM PDT by PghBaldy (If my ancestors acted like the current crop of "immigrants", you would have to "press 2" for Polish.)
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To: JFC
He is beyond Jerk. He is Uber-Jerk. He is a Mutant X-Man Jerk with superhuman Jerk-Powers.
21 posted on 05/18/2006 10:26:11 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Black holes are where God divided by zero. - Steven Wright)
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To: Pokey78; Coop

Murtha is a disgrace. This investigation is ongoing and for him to make these conclusions is pathetic.

Diana Irey is opposing him in November and needs backing. For anyone wishing to help her campaign, here is her Web site.

http://www.irey.com/


22 posted on 05/18/2006 10:26:21 AM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: tigtog

Please See....Reired Military and The UCMJ....

http://gunnyg.blogspot.com/2006_05_14_gunnyg_archive.html


23 posted on 05/18/2006 10:28:01 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Pokey78

The voters started to clean out the rats nest of elected officals on Tuesday, maybe he should just shut up and do the job he was elected to do.


24 posted on 05/18/2006 10:28:39 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Pokey78
Murtha has become the Cindy Sheehan of Congress, constantly looking for the nearest camera. "It's all about me."
25 posted on 05/18/2006 10:30:29 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: Pokey78

bookmark


26 posted on 05/18/2006 10:30:47 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Pokey78
Murtha has become the Cindy Sheehan of Congress, constantly looking for the nearest camera. "It's all about me."
27 posted on 05/18/2006 10:31:31 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: Pokey78

Isn't there some way Irey can get to Murtha's right on guns and/or illegals? Those are issues that seem to move PA voters from what an outsider can tell.


28 posted on 05/18/2006 10:32:19 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: PghBaldy

Here is a good timeline of his comments & views on Iraq: http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2005/11/representative-murtha-truth-or.html He was saying Iraq was "unwinnable" at least as early as 2004... He is a doofus.


29 posted on 05/18/2006 10:34:02 AM PDT by PghBaldy (If my ancestors acted like the current crop of "immigrants", you would have to "press 2" for Polish.)
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To: Pokey78

To Murtha: out! Out,damned sot! His brains are addled..


30 posted on 05/18/2006 10:34:25 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: .cnI redruM; Pokey78; gunnyg
If anyone is angry and would like to do something about this horrendous behavior:

So Rep. Murtha Accused American Marines of Cold-Blooded Murder... So What?

31 posted on 05/18/2006 10:37:17 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Pokey78

I'm guessing Congressman Murtha will not make any more trips to Iraq to hang with the troops.

Once a Marine, always a Marine? Well, I'll leave that to the Marines to chew on.

Can you believe there are some conservatives who think putting these Dem traitors in control of Congress (and thus the GWOT and its' funding) is a good idea?


32 posted on 05/18/2006 10:38:23 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The leadership of Iran must be decapitated or overthrown, now.)
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To: Pokey78

I'd really love to see some jarhead kick his a$$!


33 posted on 05/18/2006 10:38:23 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: Pokey78
Irey wins my vote! Ooooo-la-laaaaaaaaaaaa !!!


34 posted on 05/18/2006 10:40:59 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Mr. Mojo; freema; river rat

Murtha is off his meds, again.


35 posted on 05/18/2006 10:42:22 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Pokey78

This is good news. When people like Murtha criticize us for brutality, they are having trouble finding evidence that we are losing the war. They would rather find such evidence, but, without it, they resort to the "killing innocent civilians" charge.


36 posted on 05/18/2006 10:45:04 AM PDT by djpg
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To: djpg; george76; avacado; Pokey78; gunnyg; JohnHuang2; .cnI redruM; smoothsailing; Mo1; GEC; ...
Irey Responds to Murtha’s Comments that U.S. Troops Killed Iraqi Civilians in Cold Blood
37 posted on 05/18/2006 10:47:42 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop
She gave a great response. Murtha is 100% unacceptable at this point. Enough is enough. Please Diana Irey...Please WIN!
38 posted on 05/18/2006 10:49:40 AM PDT by avacado
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To: The Sons of Liberty

For sure somebody needs to invite Murtha to step outside. This is the kind of stuff that used to get people into duels (Hamilton vs. Burr).


39 posted on 05/18/2006 10:53:22 AM PDT by Big Digger (I)
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To: Coop; smoothsailing
Hat tip to smoothsailing...

 

40 posted on 05/18/2006 10:59:08 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jazusamo
"For anyone wishing to help her campaign, here is her Web site."

Done. Thanks for the link.

41 posted on 05/18/2006 10:59:20 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: Pokey78
John Murtha, Graduate
John Keery School of Treasonous Acts
42 posted on 05/18/2006 11:00:03 AM PDT by scooter2
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To: Coop; smoothsailing; freema; Calpernia; Howie66

This worth repeating, IMHO.

"If you want anything done on the committee, you go to Murtha."

He's delivered so much pork to his congressional district, an airport and a major highway are named after Murtha.

Ashdown and his nonpartisan watchdog group criticized Murtha for using the $417 billion fiscal 2005 Pentagon spending bill to give business to his lobbyist brother.

The Los Angeles Times in June reported that Murtha funneled nearly $21 million to 10 or more corporate clients of KSA Consulting, where Robert "Kit" Murtha is a senior partner.

Carmen Scialabba, a Murtha congressional aide for 27 years, is also a high-ranking official at KSA.



The LA Times pulled the original article from their website when Murtha became the darling of the anti-American left.

But it still exists in cyberspace in it's entirety here:

Lobbyist's Brother Guided House Bill

http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/103785.html


help from smoothsailing


43 posted on 05/18/2006 11:04:07 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Jaxter
Done. Thanks for the link.

The thanks go to you Jaxter. Diana Irey has a real chance to defeat this disgrace of a Congressman.

44 posted on 05/18/2006 11:04:54 AM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: george76

BTTT


45 posted on 05/18/2006 11:10:38 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: PghBaldy

46 posted on 05/18/2006 11:12:01 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Pokey78
Is Murtha becoming senile?
Is he trying to do a cheap imitation of Kerry's performance back during the Vietnam war era?
47 posted on 05/18/2006 11:14:56 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Coop
Hey, Coop, since Murtha accused of the Marines of war crimes in print and in speeches, isn't there some way some of the Marines in those groups could sue Murtha for both libel and slander in the civilian courts?

I don't think Murtha is immune from such lawsuits even as a member of Congress. Just a thought.
49 posted on 05/18/2006 11:36:24 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush

I can't see it happening, honestly. But maybe we've got a JAG or someone knowledgeable about this topic reading the thread.


50 posted on 05/18/2006 11:41:40 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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