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Pat "Leaky" Leahy Aided NSA Phone Taps
newsmax.com ^ | May 19 2006

Posted on 05/19/2006 10:11:40 AM PDT by Dog

In 1994 Sen. Pat "Leaky" Leahy co-wrote a law that forced telecommunications carriers to build convenient wiretap features into their networks enabling the kind of telephone records collection now at the heart of the controversy over the National Security Agency's terrorist surveillance operation.

In recent days Leahy has called the NSA's actions troubling and potentially illegal - saying they show that the Bush administration is treating Americans like terrorists.

"'The secret collection of phone call records of tens of millions of Americans?" he exclaimed after USA Today blew the lid off the program last week. "Are you telling me that tens of millions of Americans are involved with al-Qaeda?"

But according to the Rutland Herald, Leahy was singing a different tune 12 years ago, when he was pushing the Senate to pass his bill, the Communication Assistance for Law Enforcement Act [CALEA].

Civil libertarians are also troubled by Leahy's law. "The secret search and wiretap provisions could lead to an age of Big Brother-like surveillance," the American Civil Liberties Union complained in the same Law Journal report. "Americans who oppose U.S. policies and who are believed to have ties to foreign powers could find their homes broken into and their telephones tapped."

"I suggest to senators if anybody does want to hold [CALEA] up, I hope that at this time next year, neither they nor their constituents, nor anybody they know, is a kidnap victim or victim of a terrorist, and have somebody ask why nothing can be done, and be told because a law that had probably 99 percent support in the House and the Senate did not pass." Contacted by the Herald earlier this week, Leahy said there was an important difference between what his law authorized and the actions taken by the Bush administration.

"That law talks of the technology of the interception and what technology can be used to intercept and it assumes very clearly that it can only be done with a warrant," the Vermont Democrat insisted.

Some legal experts say, however, said that assumption is not as clear as Leahy claims. Analyzing CALEA in 2003, the Rutgers Computer & Technology Law Journal explained:

"CALEA requires a telecommunications provider to make 'its equipment, facilities, or services ... capable of ... enabling the government ... [without a warrant] to intercept ... all wire and electronic communications carried by the carrier.'"


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: calea; crapartist; dumborat; hypocrites; leahy; leaky; leakyleahy; moron; patleahy; telecom; whoopsie
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1 posted on 05/19/2006 10:11:42 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SandRat; nutmeg; onyx; Howlin

Isn't the internet fantastic.

We use the internet time machine to go back in time to find that Leahy during the Clintoon raping and pilaging of Americans should be impeached and sent to jail for what he did according to he and his peers today.


2 posted on 05/19/2006 10:16:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Dog

I'm confused. Did the NSA really capture the records? Or was the USA Today article wrong?


3 posted on 05/19/2006 10:17:18 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Dog

Well, that was then, this is now. bwahahahahaha. And Clinton was President, and....yada yada. Point is these people flip flop all the time. Most major Democrats were in favor of going into Iraq, but come 2004 those same people were against it. Whatever suits them at the time, or whatever their push polls are telling them. There is no consistency, no pattern, no way of knowing which way these people will turn as moods change. One thing can be said about GW, once he sets a course he sticks with it. And consistency is important on the world politic.


4 posted on 05/19/2006 10:18:13 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Dog

ROFLMFAO.

FILTHY, HYPOCRITICAL, TREASONOUS DEMS.


5 posted on 05/19/2006 10:18:15 AM PDT by jw777
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To: Dog
..and how many people have died since Sen Leakie announced, shortly after 911 that we were gonna get Bin Laden since we were "tracking his cell phone".

A ball peen hammer applied to his lower mandible might stop his disclosing of classified comm security methods that protect us from the "bad guys"!

6 posted on 05/19/2006 10:18:37 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; bannedfromdu; Beckwith; ...

A little enjoyment for your day!


7 posted on 05/19/2006 10:18:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: jw777

FILTHY, HYPOCRITICAL, TREASONOUS DEMS.
8 posted on 05/19/2006 10:19:53 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Here is the actual law as passed by Congress..

http://www.askcalea.net/calea.html

9 posted on 05/19/2006 10:20:00 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog

Poor Leaky. He just can't get a break now can he? To bad, so sad!


10 posted on 05/19/2006 10:20:03 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Dog

Before the internet....these DC crooks could tell the public anything and we'd believe them. NO LONGER...Thank The Lord for the internet. These crooks get caught everytime....LOL


11 posted on 05/19/2006 10:23:03 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Mo1

Ping-a-ling


12 posted on 05/19/2006 10:23:51 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Once a Snowflake, always a Snowflake ! Good luck Tony!)
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To: Pyro7480

Great. Pleases add the Sssssssss, golum, golum.


13 posted on 05/19/2006 10:26:24 AM PDT by Prost1 (We can build a wall, we can evict - "Si, se puede!")
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To: Dog; ASA Vet; Beckwith; BIGLOOK; Cindy; backhoe; piasa; Darkwolf377; Enchante; STARWISE

Wow, can you find the names of the $inators who signed this bill. This is amazing:

SEC. 103. ASSISTANCE CAPABILITY REQUIREMENTS.

(a) CAPABILITY REQUIREMENTS- Except as provided in subsections (b), (c), and (d) of this section and sections 108(a) and 109(b) and (d), a telecommunications carrier shall ensure that its equipment, facilities, or services that provide a customer or subscriber with the ability to originate, terminate, or direct communications are capable of--

(1) expeditiously isolating and enabling the government, pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, to intercept, to the exclusion of any other communications, all wire and electronic communications carried by the carrier within a service area to or from equipment, facilities, or services of a subscriber of such carrier concurrently with their transmission to or from the subscriber's equipment, facility, or service, or at such later time as may be acceptable to the government;

(2) expeditiously isolating and enabling the government, pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, to access call-identifying information that is reasonably available to the carrier--

(A) before, during, or immediately after the transmission of a wire or electronic communication (or at such later time as may be acceptable to the government); and
(B) in a manner that allows it to be associated with the communication to which it pertains, except that, with regard to information acquired solely pursuant to the authority for pen registers and trap and trace devices (as defined in section 3127 of title 18, United States Code), such call-identifying information shall not include any information that may disclose the physical location of the subscriber (except to the extent that the location may be determined from the telephone number);

(3) delivering intercepted communications and call-identifying information to the government, pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, in a format such that they may be transmitted by means of equipment, facilities, or services procured by the government to a location other than the premises of the carrier; and

(4) facilitating authorized communications interceptions and access to call-identifying information unobtrusively and with a minimum of interference with any subscriber's telecommunications service and in a manner that protects--

(A) the privacy and security of communications and call-identifying information not authorized to be intercepted; and
(B) information regarding the government's interception of communications and access to call-identifying information.


14 posted on 05/19/2006 10:33:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: for-q-clinton
"Did the NSA really capture the records?"
Not sure what you mean by "capture". The USA Today article claimed that AT&T, Verizon, and some others had been asked to provide access to the NSA, the transaction portion of a telephone call. That is. The sourece and destination number, as well as the time of connect.
What was not eluded to was just how that was to be accomplished. For example. Would the given phone company provide say an uplink from their telephone swithcing computers to say a NSA computer. Where one might simply expect to see a few hundred million records transfered, at a time.
Or as your questions denotes, "capture" where NSA computers are literally allowed access to certain telphone company computers that in real time can query the telephone company to transfer given phone number records (less the owners of those numbers's names).
I believe at this point all the telephone companies in question have said they have not given NSA access to these records.
If so, the only way NSA can access a given number is to get a warrant to do so. Then the phone company will comply.
Perhaps if this is not adequate, someone else can further delinate on just what had been claimed by USA Today.
15 posted on 05/19/2006 10:35:15 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Dog

bttt


16 posted on 05/19/2006 10:35:30 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Pyro7480

Be nice to Gollum (Smeagol), he is not as bad the Democrats!


17 posted on 05/19/2006 10:38:41 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Grampa Dave

Sometimes a story shows up on FR that just makes all the bad ones worth wading through...

LOVE IT...first, Leahy "leaked"...and now he is being shown for the buffoon, lying sleazeball that he really is.

REMEMBER FOLKS: I we don't vote in Nov...or vote 3rd Party...LEAHY would be the Chairman of the MOST POWERFUL Judiciary Committee...think SCOTUS judges, if nothing else.


18 posted on 05/19/2006 10:39:18 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Dog

I often wonder how many of these "outraged" Sneators were either complicit in the enabling legislation as Leaky appears to be, or were in the notification loop and are playing dumb. I wish we'd hear specifics, not just that "leadership" was notified but, "hey, we told Senators A, B, C, and D."


19 posted on 05/19/2006 10:39:51 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Too soon to remember??? How about TOO SOON TO FORGET!" from Mr. Silverback)
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To: Dog
Leahy will get a pass in the drive by media.
20 posted on 05/19/2006 10:40:15 AM PDT by b4its2late (If it's treason, there's no doubt a democrat is standing behind it.)
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To: Txsleuth
REMEMBER FOLKS: If we don't vote in Nov...or vote 3rd Party...LEAHY would be the Chairman of the MOST POWERFUL Judiciary Committee...think SCOTUS judges, if nothing else.

Bears repeating. In fact, just think period!

21 posted on 05/19/2006 10:44:17 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: Cboldt

PING....Check this out..

Also...anyway you can find out which Senators that are currently in the Senate also voted for this???


22 posted on 05/19/2006 10:49:45 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

It is a great story and will be used like billy clubs against Leaky Leahy and his fellow rat $inators, who voted for this bill and are whining to day.

REMEMBER FOLKS: If we don't vote in Nov...or vote 3rd Party...LEAHY would be the Chairman of the MOST POWERFUL Judiciary Committee...think SCOTUS judges, if nothing else.

You mean, we should go vote and not punish the America by allowing in a pack of rats who hate America? (sarcasm off)


23 posted on 05/19/2006 10:50:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: prairiebreeze

I was just going to say "think", but the way things have been around here lately, I thought the ONLY thing that might get the really angry ones to capitulate and vote Republican is the realization the even with Bush as POTUS, if Leahy is Chair of Judiciary, and they have the majority, chances are anyone Bush would pick wouldn't even get out of committee!!


24 posted on 05/19/2006 10:52:30 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Grampa Dave

Yes, I do....and I have been reluctant lately to get on "those threads" and state that....because I have an aversion to being beaten up...

However, after reading this...and watching the footage of his holding up the USA Today on TV....I am not going to worry about getting beaten up.

Besides, if any of the ones that are threatening to not vote or vote 3rd party have watched any of the Senate this week...they should know that there are some fine Republicans that shouldn't be punished...and that the DEMS are getting worse and worse, and should in no way get back in power.


25 posted on 05/19/2006 10:57:37 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Dog
Analyzing CALEA in 2003, the Rutgers Computer & Technology Law Journal explained:

If they had to analyze CALEA I feel sorry for them. That is one of the most confusing pieces of legislation I have ever read.
26 posted on 05/19/2006 11:12:30 AM PDT by P-40 (Support Apartheid in Mexico! Hire an illegal today!)
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To: Dog
http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&fr=slv1-&p=Communications+Assistance+for+Law+Enforcement+Act+of+1994+%28CALEA%29%2Fsenate+vote&u=www.independent.org/pdf/tir/tir_06_2_twight.pdf&w=communications+assistance+law+enforcement+act+1994+calea+senate+vote&d=dbVkjkaqMirQ&icp=1&.intl=us


Link to information about the signing and passing of the bill.

It passed in the Senate by voice vote with no record of individual votes.
27 posted on 05/19/2006 11:13:46 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: Dog; lainie
Leaky thought it was a great idea to spy on the right and give gun owners the old "Uncle Sam Analtreatment"

I guess he changed his mind when the glove is going up the other butt.

Imagine that!

28 posted on 05/19/2006 11:16:45 AM PDT by Cheapskate (America , -- -- -- -- Yeah!)
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To: Dog

Leahy has alzheimers?


29 posted on 05/19/2006 11:26:25 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Pyro7480

Wow, judging from your post#8, Perot sure has aged!!!


30 posted on 05/19/2006 11:27:07 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: for-q-clinton

The USA article was wrong at least for BellSouth and Verizon. Not sure about AT&T. BellSouth has demanded a retraction.


31 posted on 05/19/2006 11:27:40 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Grampa Dave
Isn't the internet fantastic.

It brings personal freedom to a higher pinnacle.

Leaky Leahy must be lead to frustration because of this.

32 posted on 05/19/2006 11:28:00 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS

"Isn't the internet fantastic."

"It brings personal freedom to a higher pinnacle."

"Leaky Leahy must be lead to frustration because of this."

As the MSM continues its downward death spiral, Leahy, Dean and other notable rat liars will grow to hate the internet. Particualiarly data on sites they can't erase or remove.


33 posted on 05/19/2006 11:36:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Txsleuth

Bingo. Bingo. Bingo.


34 posted on 05/19/2006 11:39:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Grampa Dave
As the MSM continues its downward death spiral, Leahy, Dean and other notable rat liars will grow to hate the internet. Particualiarly data on sites they can't erase or remove.

Don't give them so much credit in their conviction in their hate.

What they will try to do is try and make money on their focus to destroy the Internet and tax it to death.

35 posted on 05/19/2006 11:41:02 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: jw777
FILTHY, HYPOCRITICAL, TREASONOUS DEMS.

And yet - so electable...

36 posted on 05/19/2006 11:44:12 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: Dog

bump


37 posted on 05/19/2006 11:48:17 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: COBOL2Java

yep. thanks to the spineless, ineffective GOP majority


38 posted on 05/19/2006 11:57:42 AM PDT by jw777
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To: Dog

What a kick!

LMAO.

Thanks for the post.

Thank God for the internet and Rush Limbaugh.


39 posted on 05/19/2006 12:03:43 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: Beagle8U

DANG, thanks.....this is exactly one reason that I get so MAD that they are even allowed to have voice votes.

But, in the Senate it has to be UC...so we need to know which Senators were in the Senate during that vote..and voila, we have our list of who to blast IF they have come out and said anything about this.


40 posted on 05/19/2006 12:21:49 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
One think is sure, anyone that was in the Senate that year didn't care one wit about this bill. They didn't even have a floor debate on it!
41 posted on 05/19/2006 12:26:45 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I'll say/....ROFL!

Leahy should be challenged on the Senate Floor....


42 posted on 05/19/2006 12:30:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Shoot....those Senators NEVER challenge each other...

Reid basically calls Inhofe a racist yesterday...and Inhofe said nothing on the floor.

If he said something in private, fine....but to the American public, it looks weak.


43 posted on 05/19/2006 12:36:38 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Beagle8U; Grampa Dave; Dog; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle
It passed in the Senate by voice vote with no record of individual votes.

My Goodness.....I am SHOCKED...../sarcasm

44 posted on 05/19/2006 12:37:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: tiredoflaundry
That was during the Clinton Administration .. for Dems, they think that is ok .. just as long as you're not listening to the terrorist
45 posted on 05/19/2006 12:38:23 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Amazing, huh!


46 posted on 05/19/2006 12:43:59 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Dog

Well Well. What a tangled web we weave...


47 posted on 05/19/2006 12:53:16 PM PDT by AliVeritas (The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
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To: Dog

We were discussing CALEA and all legislation on wiretaps and how to find the votes re: Hayden's hearing/dem bloviating. Excellent post Dog.


48 posted on 05/19/2006 12:56:51 PM PDT by AliVeritas (The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"It passed in the Senate by voice vote with no record of individual votes."
I am beginning to hold the view most of these clowns are literally sneaky swine.
49 posted on 05/19/2006 1:06:41 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Dog

I hope one day to have at least one member of my cngressional delegation that I won't have to be ashamed of.


50 posted on 05/19/2006 1:16:25 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (The Stations of the Cross in Poetry ---> http://www.wayoftears.com)
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