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Is there a "conservative paradigm" in America?
AmericanThinker.com ^ | 05/19/06 | Steven Warshawsky

Posted on 05/19/2006 11:01:21 AM PDT by RepublicanPatriot

Unless and until conservatives and Republicans start fighting for their country and culture with the same unyielding vehemence that the Left has pushed for its agenda for the past 40 years, America will continue down the same liberal path leading to socialism at home, weakness abroad, and the end of both the American Dream and the American Century.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservative; left; liberal; lord; paradigm; reagan

1 posted on 05/19/2006 11:01:24 AM PDT by RepublicanPatriot
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To: RepublicanPatriot
I got your paradigm right here.


2 posted on 05/19/2006 11:08:35 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: RepublicanPatriot

Poll after poll shows that Americans self identify as conservatives roughly 35% to 18%. What do you think?


3 posted on 05/19/2006 11:20:17 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (John Spencer: Fighting to save America from Hillary Clinton..)
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To: RepublicanPatriot


Perhaps too many are naive members of a secret society.


4 posted on 05/19/2006 11:28:03 AM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: jmaroneps37

Polls don't reflect reality. Americans might say they are "conservative" -- but then why do they consistently fail to support conservative policies?


5 posted on 05/19/2006 11:33:02 AM PDT by RepublicanPatriot
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To: RepublicanPatriot
You are correct.
Rush L. was quoting some guy this week and the theory was weak as well. The problem is people thing of themselves as conservative but support and promote ideas and values no "conservative" would have 10 years ago, even less 20 years ago. Consider the large number of people on this very website that would support in a NY second a pro-abortion pro-gay marriage pol like Rudy. The list of issues in which the "right" has let slip "left" is astonishing, from Abortion and divorce de jour, to semi-paganism (if not the outright version). And yet because they harbor a delusion they are more conservative then their neighbor they hold fast to the fantasy they are holding down the line on Traditional Values.

If they were interested in truth they would look at their own values over the last 20 years. Not as a middle ages man looking back on a miss spent youth but as a middle aged man looking back on the values he rejected in his youth that was held in estimate by the adults 20 years ago. If one does that many of the issue the GOP promotes today would look much like those of the Democrats 20 years ago and nothing like the GOP or conservatives in general.
6 posted on 05/19/2006 11:56:57 AM PDT by iluvlucy (swim the Tiber, the water is fine)
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To: martin_fierro

Is that FDR? How appropriate, given the topic under discussion.


7 posted on 05/19/2006 12:05:30 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

Yes the revolution of FDR has never been undone. There is little stomach for it. Even Reagan actually accomplished very little in terms of rolling back FDR era socialism.

At this point if you talk about ending Social Security (not means testing, or whatever else the liberals will do to continue it's transformation into a pure redistributionist program like all the others) you are a out on the radical fringe. Unelectable. Unpublishable (except on blogs and ezines).

"Conservative" means Bill O'Reilly. How would he answer if you asked him "should the Federal Government be reduced in scope to accomplish only those duties that are specified in the US Constitution". "No, of course not... that's just not realistic ... we need Medicare, etc.".

Many, probably most Republican politicians would answer the same. True Constiutional Conservatism, abiding Social Conservatism these are minority positions.


8 posted on 05/19/2006 12:11:11 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: RepublicanPatriot

" the truth is that on the truly big issues on the ground, America is still in the grip of the liberal paradigm that came into existence under FDR. "

Yup. Hence my screen name.

And many here seem to actually cheer that liberal paradigm on - so long as the politicians in power have an "R" after their names.


9 posted on 05/19/2006 12:34:39 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: jmaroneps37

The word "Conservative" has been "defined down" these days.


10 posted on 05/19/2006 12:35:48 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Pessimist
Dude your screen name says it all. I am very optimistic about Election Day. You can sit frozen in pessimism, but leave me out. Conservatism = equals optimism in my book.
11 posted on 05/19/2006 12:49:38 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (John Spencer: Fighting to save America from Hillary Clinton..)
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To: RepublicanPatriot

I don't read stuff if I see the word "paradigm". Or "synergy". Or "value-added".


12 posted on 05/19/2006 12:55:41 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: RepublicanPatriot; iluvlucy
Polls don't reflect reality. Americans might say they are "conservative" -- but then why do they consistently fail to support conservative policies?
RepublicanPatriot


You are correct.
--- because they harbor a delusion they are more conservative then their neighbor they hold fast to the fantasy they are holding down the line on Traditional Values.
iluvlucy

Our 'traditional values' are enumerated in the Constitutions attempts to protect life, liberty, or property, with due process of law.
Far too many of todays self described conservatives, -- and all socialists, -- are convinced that the rule of law can be dictated by majority rule.

- Thus our Republic is being converted into a 'democracy', -- a tyranny of the majority.

13 posted on 05/19/2006 1:12:05 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: RepublicanPatriot

Believe it or not even most Dems are socially conservative. But they've been brainwashed by the small percent of ultra-libs who control the media, education, and the entertainment industry. The leftist termites have taken over. Conservative talk shows, the internet, and Fox are basically in their infancy as far as fighting back. We have a long, hard fight ahead of us to take the country back.


14 posted on 05/19/2006 2:06:22 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: RepublicanPatriot

most people don't understand "which" principles differentiate the two parties, they vote on personality. I live in a very blue state, and am amazed after questioning your average dem on specific issues, that they often fall to the right in the political spectrum. The republican are notoriously awful at explaining what it means to support republican ideas. The dems usually sit back, say nothing, and wait for the opportunity to emote on camera. I've never been able to get your average dem to explain what the democratic party stands for.


15 posted on 05/20/2006 6:41:37 AM PDT by Katya (I)
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To: Katya
The republican are notoriously awful at explaining what it means to support republican ideas.

I once asked a Republican fundraiser (phone solicitation) if she could tell me what a repulic was. She didn't have a clue.

16 posted on 05/20/2006 6:45:06 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Jack Black
A Communitarian Ethos

The Groton influence of Endicott Peabody showed in a speech Roosevelt gave at the People's Forum in Troy, NY in 1912. There he declared that western Europeans and Americans had achieved victory in the struggle for "the liberty of the individual," and that the new agenda should be a "struggle for the liberty of the community." The wrong ethos for a new age was, "every man does as he sees fit, even with a due regard to law and order." The new order should be, "march on with civilization in a way satisfactory to the well-being of the great majority of us."

In that speech Roosevelt outlined the philosophical base of what would eventually become the New Deal. He also forecast the rhetorical mode by which "community" could loom over individual liberty. "If we call the method regulation, people hold up their hands in horror and say ‘un-American,' or ‘dangerous,'" Roosevelt pointed out. "But if we call the same identical process co-operation, these same old fogeys will cry out ‘well done'.... cooperation is as good a word for the new theory as any other."

17 posted on 05/20/2006 6:51:33 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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18 posted on 05/20/2006 12:13:30 PM PDT by tpaine
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