Posted on 05/19/2006 3:46:43 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
I can imagine that what is happening is that people have this fungus in their mulch around their house. The fungus will shoot it's spore toward a light source, perhaps an open window, and then it may land on a person. You probably wouldnt' notice it much, but it would feel like perhaps bugs crawling on you as it grew. On skin it might appear to be small freckle or blackhead at first but if it grew, it would become fibrous.
A picture of the fungus: 
Another view:
Fungus on siding:
More info:
Another reason to stay out of California.
That's very interesting, however they do say it's not a problem for pets so one would have to assume the spores only survive under certain conditions. I am glad I always use cypress mulch though!
Strange that it should get this much emphasis suddenly.
EntrezMed? Does Ginger Savely practice in France in this version?
I see them all the time in our local natural health food store and also in the natural pet food store. Some just think the MDs are blind and stupid, others believe it is actually a conspiracy, but this is the way they reason, by taking unconnected facts and stringing them all together with no basis for doing so.
The somewhat similar description of some symptoms means absolutely nothing. 17th century reports on diseases are notoriously inaccurate. Even the doctors (let alone the lay people with an interest in medicine) still believed in the four humours and similar balderdash. Harvey's theory of the circulation of the blood wasn't even published until 1628, and nobody gave it any credence for another 50 years or so.
The AMA must have had the references removed overnight.
The clue is the stretching for good stuff -- "Ginger is married to Bill Brands, a UT history professor and Pulitzer prize nominated author of 18 books ..." -- I'm glad she married a nice guy, but what difference does it make to HER accomplishments that he's a prof, let alone that he's been nominated for a Pulitzer (anybody can nominate anybody who's published anything for a Pulitzer)?
Frightening Skin Disease Invades L.A. (Morgellons) Posted by bd476 to JohnBovenmyer; Cacique; BurbankKarl; Mad_Tom_Rackham; metmom; Nihil Obstat; Renegade; ... On News/Activism 05/19/2006 5:50:12 PM MDT · 40 of 128
Testing for Lyme in the later stages is difficult. The testing itself requires considerable skill in the lab doing the testing. It also requires skill and understanding of the doc, who must know what to tests to do. It is complicated.
I 'll also add that a considerable number of docs refuse to treat for Lyme until test results show Lyme. That is too late. By the time their test results are in, the 1st stage is over and damage is being done. The treatment is now much tougher. The reason given for the delay is, "to prevent the proliferation of antibiotic resistant strains of bugs". That's BS, the lesion is proof of a bacterial cause.
Your post says the problem persists. That means the bugs are still present. She should w/o question receive the appropriate antibiotic treatment to get rid of them. If her doc hasn't done this, she absolutely needs a new one. I suggest an immunologist. I haven't gone into details, but they would be the ones most likely to have the knowledge and understanding to determine exactly what's going on. By immunologist, I don't mean one of those allergy morons. If the doc starts testing for allergies, that's the clue the docs NG. He should be testing for things like elevated IgM, and heart, liver and brain problems. A GP could do this, but it's unlikely one would find one that has, or would spend the time to know and understand the important aspects involved.
A number of years have passed 5 at least and I don't remember about the bullseye lesion. She saw a doctor several months (2) later where the test for Lyme was administered and was negative. I remember looking on the Internet and all her symptoms fit Lyme disease( but what do I know I am not a doc). Her doctor treated her with Vioxx (which she was allergic to) and then other meds of the same type, never antibiotics. I remember suggesting she see another doctor but that made her angry at me. Now she lives in Cuernavaca Mex. and a doctor there has given a name to the traveling nerve pain she is experiencing but she couldn't remember what he called it. The doctor she first saw is here in Houston and I doubt if he was very familiar with Lyme disease, you don't hear a lot about it here.Would another blood test show Lyme disease at this late date?
OH NO! Regardless of Vioxx's heart problems, it would make the disease much worse. These anti-inflamatories cut the immune systems attack on the bugs and they proliferate, because of that. In the case of Lyme at that stage the bugs are involved in heart tissue.
"The doctor she first saw is here in Houston"
Lyme is a worldwide disease and being in TX, the moron should know about all the various diseases that she might have had that are made worse by administering such anti-inflamatories. Lyme is definitely present in TX. It's the most common arthropod borne disease. Sudden onset symptoms like this should not be dismissed and the patient given anti-inflamatories.
"Would another blood test show Lyme disease at this late date?"
A good lab would find past exposure. Unless the disease progress to where secondary lesions, meningitis, endocarditis, synovitis, ect., are present, it may not be easy.
" I remember suggesting she see another doctor but that made her angry at me."
Yes, some people trust there docs as if they were all knowing. Few people are familiar with "medicine", so they don't question. They wouldn't understand anyway. Given your description, the MX doc doesn't know either. She should be on antibiotics and have the appropriate tests done by a competent doc.
Your welcome. I sure hope she gets better.
Ping to read later.
Actually Ginger Savely, LLNP was practicing in Austin Texas up until the March 31, 2006.
She has moved her practice and is now practicing with Dr. Stricker, in San Francisco, California. Dr. Stricker is a world reknowned researcher and physician who treats and reseaches Lyme Disease, Chronic-Late Stage Disseminated Lyme Disease, aka Borreliosis, AND Morgellon's Disease.
So, there is no discrepancy here, as you would like to believe, simply that the practitioner's locale has moved.
It was more of a distrust of the media's reporting that drove my comment, also noting very similar wording used in the two articles with the different locations mentioned.
The media gives us little reason to trust it anymore.
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