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Religious Liberals Gain New Visibility
Washington Post ^ | 05/20/06 | Caryle Murphy and Alan Cooperman

Posted on 05/20/2006 1:35:12 PM PDT by Pikamax

Religious Liberals Gain New Visibility A Different List Of Moral Issues

By Caryle Murphy and Alan Cooperman Washington Post Staff Writers Saturday, May 20, 2006; A01

The religious left is back.

Long overshadowed by the Christian right, religious liberals across a wide swath of denominations are engaged today in their most intensive bout of political organizing and alliance-building since the civil rights and anti-Vietnam War movements of the 1960s, according to scholars, politicians and clergy members.

In large part, the revival of the religious left is a reaction against conservatives' success in the 2004 elections in equating moral values with opposition to abortion and same-sex marriage.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: oxymoron; religiousleft

1 posted on 05/20/2006 1:35:12 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
Yes, they **use** the name Jesus as a weapon to try and take control of people (more welfare!!!) and take their money (higher taxes!!!1 bigger govt!!! govt is the answer!!!). I'm not sure which religion that is but it's not Christianity. Ask any liberal if they believe the New Testament and 99% of them will say "no, but it has a lot of good lessons in it." In other words, they are nonbelievers.
2 posted on 05/20/2006 1:41:09 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Pikamax

Uh oh! Tighten your butt-cheeks, here come the fascists.


3 posted on 05/20/2006 1:42:06 PM PDT by LA Conservative (Al Gore in 2008 - The gift that keeps on giving)
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To: Pikamax
Is it "Doctor Reverend Jackson" or "Reverend Doctor Jackson"?

Because his is BOTH, definitely. I just want to make sure which ever he is more of - a reverend or a doctor - that I address him correctly...


4 posted on 05/20/2006 1:42:43 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Pikamax

I'm glad they're coming out now. There are so many religious people who just don't know what these folks stand for. It will be good for them to see some clear cut differences between the religous and the religious left.


5 posted on 05/20/2006 1:45:16 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Pikamax
"In large part, the revival of the religious left is a reaction against conservatives' success in the 2004 elections in equating moral values with opposition to abortion and same-sex marriage."

So - the religious right just made up those moral values? Nothing in God's Word speaks of them and it's only a fantasy?

The Lefties are going to show their moral values on abortion and same-sex marriage and just make up their own religion.

6 posted on 05/20/2006 1:47:29 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: Pikamax
"As religious people we're offended by the idea that if you're not with the religious right, you're not moral, you're not religious," said Linda Gustitus, who attends Bethesda's River Road Unitarian Church and is a founder of the new Washington Region Religious Campaign Against Torture. "I mean there's a whole universe out there [with views] different from the religious right. . . . People closer to the middle of the political spectrum who are religious want their voices heard."

Sure, they are religious, they just aren't Christian.

7 posted on 05/20/2006 1:51:41 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Pikamax
Janel Bakker, 28, a graduate student at Catholic University who attends Washington Community Fellowship on Capitol Hill, an evangelical church affiliated with the Mennonite denomination, said she grew up in a "relatively conservative religious home" where "the big issue was considered to be abortion."

But Bakker, who has attended several rallies against the Iraq war, said she now regards poverty, peace and the environment as important spiritual issues ignored by the religious right. "The religious right has assumed that capitalism is the way to go and is the most moral way to organize society," Bakker added. "Young people are questioning that."

Girl, if you think that capitalism is bad, and that socialism or communism is good, I suggest that you live in a communist country for a couple years. What an idiot. It figures that she is a graduate student. Somebody has to be indoctrinated in order to believe such tripe. Tell me how moral those other economic systems are, since they inevitably lead to stagnation, poverty, lack of work ethic, envy, lack of personal growth, and antagonism toward Christianity.

8 posted on 05/20/2006 1:58:57 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Pikamax
Conservative Christian activist Gary L. Bauer said the religious left "is getting more media attention" but "it's not clear" that it is getting more organized.

They get a handful of these lunatics together to rant and rave at a Unitarian "church" in DC, and now they're supposedly appearing in droves all over the country. Only in the dreams of the editors of the NYTimesWashPost!

9 posted on 05/20/2006 2:02:11 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Pikamax

They're certainly trying hard to popularize the oxymoron. The bumper stickers are out in force (to coincide with the media reports such as this). But the fact of the matter is they're simply just "left"; that endless abyss devoid of God.


10 posted on 05/20/2006 2:17:03 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
The thing is, Christianity is about a personal faith, a personal, relationship with God

While God, no doubt, wants us to help our fellow man, I believe that He doesn't want us to break His other commandments while doing it. I'm thinking in particular of "thou shalt not steal".

Further, Christianity is a religion that can be practiced no matter what kind of society you live in. If Christians are oppresses they can practice in secret. Christians are responsible for their own behavior, not that of others.

11 posted on 05/20/2006 2:21:30 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: madprof98

There is a certainly a "Religious Left" campaign going on..and totally orchestrated in advance with the media to be the "hot news" item for the short term.

You've go to build on something like this WAY in advance of the '08 DNC convention, don't-cha know;) LOL...The left is so predictably pathetic!..hahaha

12 posted on 05/20/2006 2:24:16 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: DeweyCA

Bump


13 posted on 05/20/2006 2:30:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SteveMcKing

He nevered earned a doctorate and he never was ordained or finished seminary.

I want to change my nickname to Rev. I got the rope


14 posted on 05/20/2006 2:30:46 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

Just one tiny story about how Bush reorganized government agencies to cooperate with faith-based orgs to reduce homeless by 30% while these people were flapping their gums.


15 posted on 05/20/2006 2:35:52 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Pikamax

There are no real Christians on the left.


16 posted on 05/20/2006 2:47:34 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Pikamax
But Bakker, who has attended several rallies against the Iraq war, said she now regards poverty, peace and the environment as important spiritual issues ignored by the religious right. "The religious right has assumed that capitalism is the way to go and is the most moral way to organize society," Bakker added. "Young people are questioning that."

The only task that should matter to Christains is to spread the Gospel of Christ to a lost and dying world. Are "Religious Liberals" doing that?? If the above comment is what is typical from them, then I doubt it.

Just sayin'
17 posted on 05/20/2006 3:07:09 PM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned.)
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In large part, the revival of the religious left is a reaction

Hmmm. That phrase probably acknowledges their irrelevance as far as practical politics go. They won't be swaying any votes.

18 posted on 05/20/2006 3:14:30 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Pikamax

In large part, the revival of the religious left ...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

There isn't any revival of the religious left. On in the mainstream media's wet dreams.


19 posted on 05/20/2006 3:22:18 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Pikamax

ping


20 posted on 05/20/2006 3:46:18 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: I got the rope

We have religious nutjobs on the left and the right. Your screen name, unless I'm making a mistake, makes we wonder if you are a religious nutjob or just a nut job.

/Do I assume too much by you screen name?/


21 posted on 05/20/2006 4:23:35 PM PDT by Tiberius_Kirk
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To: Tiberius_Kirk

YOU...are making fun of my nickname...ROTFLMAO!


22 posted on 05/20/2006 4:29:52 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: chesley
The thing is, Christianity is about a personal faith, a personal, relationship with God

Of course it is. And how does one learn who God is? Answer: Through His word, the Bible. Anyone who doesn't believe God's word can not know who God is because they think that it is fiction rather than the inspired word of God. How can one have a relationship with something that he doesn't believe in?

There is a big difference between Christ/God's word and political correctness. Most liberals worship political correctness and dismiss God's word. But they claim that they believe, thinking that saying that is a "get into heaven free" card.

23 posted on 05/20/2006 4:33:49 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Who's word? Christians cannot come to a consensus. It's quite funny that Muslims and atheists are so very certain about what they believe....Except of course the Sunni-Shia thing and the atheist-LibX-Reform thing.

Who's word again? Prove it.
24 posted on 05/20/2006 5:24:22 PM PDT by Tiberius_Kirk
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To: Pikamax

Well .. there's a big difference between being "religious" and being a Christian. The two are not exactly the same.

You can go to church and repeat mindless rituals - and consider yourself religious.

Or you can go to church because you have a personal relationship with Jesus, your Saviour, and Almighty God.


25 posted on 05/20/2006 5:32:30 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: CyberAnt

You said:
Or you can go to church because you have a personal relationship with Jesus, your Saviour, and Almighty God.
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The leftists and the muslims, the waco's and many more know they are the ones. So who are the real believers? Who are truly 'saved'?

Are McVeigh, Ahmadinejad, Buchanan, [random hero], are they all correct?

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/3258


26 posted on 05/20/2006 6:05:21 PM PDT by Tiberius_Kirk
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To: All


"... and then the Lord said unto them; we are going to have to take things from you for the common good... also I wouldn't try thinking for yourself, each according to his need etc, etc... I'll still probably be flying in my private jet though."

Hugs and Kiss! POS Jim Wallis

27 posted on 05/20/2006 6:15:33 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I think your quote is wrong. It should be something like....here you go, try it your way...

Jets, wheels, roofs and water are OK. Your quote, however, is FUBAR.


28 posted on 05/20/2006 6:42:40 PM PDT by Tiberius_Kirk
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To: Tiberius_Kirk; All

Romans 10:9-10

Unless you follow the rule in that scripture, you are not born again - unless you are born again by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior - you are not "saved".

Jesus told us, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY ME. The Muslims do not even recognize Jesus as the Savior.

And .. others may not agree with me .. that's fine .. this is just what I've been taught - and it is what I believe.


29 posted on 05/20/2006 6:46:11 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Pikamax

Deuteronomy 4:2:
You shall not add to the word which I command you, neither shall you diminish ought from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.


30 posted on 05/20/2006 9:44:06 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: Tiberius_Kirk
Who's word?

God's word - the Bible. Christians are in complete consensus that the Bible is God's word. Otherwise they would not be Christians.

Don't be so positive that Muslims are sure of what they believe. Some believe that they should cut the heads off of Christians. Most do not believe this.

There are plenty of books out there that you can read "proving" God and God's word - The case for Christ and Mere Christianity are two. Get back to me after you've read them.

Prove that the Bible is not God's word.

31 posted on 05/21/2006 3:29:21 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Pikamax
No such thing as a "religious liberal" only Godless liberal animals addicted to one form of self satisfying habit or another perpetually fighting adulthood by screwing people of the same sex.
32 posted on 05/21/2006 3:32:25 PM PDT by Porterville (Do Not Betray The President During A Time Of War-- Unless You Are A Traitor)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

They prate of Jesus but mean Marx.


33 posted on 05/21/2006 3:38:31 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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