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From Truthout, an apology, of sorts, for reporting Rove's indictment (Marc Ash Interviewed By Salon)
Salon.Com ^ | May 20, 2006 | Tim Grieve

Posted on 05/21/2006 4:11:10 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

A week after proclaiming that Karl Rove has already been indicted on charges of perjury and lying to federal investigators, Truthout has issued a rather inscrutable partial apology.

"The time has now come. . . to issue a partial apology to our readership for this story," Truthout Executive Director Marc Ash said in a post on the site Friday. "While we paid very careful attention to the sourcing on this story, we erred in getting too far out in front of the news cycle. In moving as quickly as we did, we caused more confusion than clarity. And that was a disservice to our readership and we regret it. As such, we will be taking the wait-and-see approach for the time being. We will keep you posted."

An apology for "getting too far out in front of the news cycle"? How's that again? Where we come from, reporters try to get out in front of the news cycle. It's called aggressive reporting, breaking some news, a scoop. And it's not the sort of thing that warrants an apology -- unless, of course, you've gotten the story wrong.

So is Truthout saying that Jason Leopold's reporting was wrong? We put that question to Ash this morning, and his answer seemed to be a pretty unequivocal no. Although Rove's lawyer and his spokesman have both said that Leopold's story was false, Ash said that Truthout still believes that Patrick Fitzgerald, Karl Rove and Rove lawyer Robert Luskin participated in a 15-hour plea-negotiation session at Patton Boggs last Friday; that Fitzgerald gave Rove's lawyers a copy of an indictment charging Rove with perjury and lying to investigators; and that Fitzgerald told Rove's lawyers that their client had 24 hours -- or 24 business hours -- to get his affairs in order.

So why apologize for the story? Leopold's story quoted "sources close to the case" who predicted an indictment announcement last week, and Ash told us this morning that Truthout "hoped and felt strongly" that Fitzgerald would announce Rove's indictment on Friday. That it didn't happen was a cause for concern, Ash said.

In addition, Ash said that he's uncertain about some of the events leading up to and following the meeting that supposedly happened last Friday at Patton Boggs. Ash said he isn't sure now when the grand jury voted to indict Rove, although he said he remains confident that it did so before last Friday. He said that he isn't sure what's going on now to warrant keeping the alleged indictment under wraps, although he suggested that it must mean that Rove's team is cooperating with Fitzgerald somehow.

Finally, Ash said that "there are people whose life was made inconvenient by our story," and that "not all of them are Karl Rove or people beholden to Karl Rove." Who are they? "I can't tell you any more than that," Ash said. Is one of them Leopold? "You're making my life complicated now," Ash said.

Of course, good stories often inconvenience people and complicate lives, and they seldom contain every last fact about the steps that led up to or might follow the developments they report. If that's all that's "wrong" about Leopold's reporting, there's no need for Truthout to apologize for anything.

So, once again, why the "partial apology" now?

Ash said that Truthout needs to "cool down the reactor a little bit" as it tries to learn more about the "cycle" on which Fitzgerald's legal team is working. "We're not in a position to continue on without an official confirmation," he said. "Unless we get some official confirmation, we're going to look stupider and stupider."

Those were his words, not ours.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bullzogby; crypticutterances; fitzmas; getbush; getrove; goebbelswouldbeproud; hoaxmas; jasonleopold; karlrove; lyingliars; makinglitup; marcash; pajamapeoplerule; powerghraib; salonstockdeathwatch; showtrial; truthout; zogbyism
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To: PJ-Comix

I was just about to FReepmail you about this very article! :)


21 posted on 05/21/2006 5:27:25 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: martin_fierro
Obviously, the Salon "brain trust" are operating under the collective delusion that they're actually The New York Times, or something.

:)

22 posted on 05/21/2006 5:40:08 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: PJ-Comix
Hey maybe they meant the next 24 hours being the tv show 24.

That means they got another 23 hours to break the story.

23 posted on 05/21/2006 5:47:21 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: PJ-Comix

You can email this Marc twit at - director@truthout.org


24 posted on 05/21/2006 5:49:15 AM PDT by jerod
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To: PJ-Comix
An apology for "getting too far out in front of the news cycle"?

I think it means "spin" cycle! ;-)

25 posted on 05/21/2006 5:49:33 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Once a Snowflake, always a Snowflake ! Good luck Tony!)
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To: tiredoflaundry
I think it means "spin" cycle! ;-)

... said observation being made, ironically enough, by one "tired of laundry!" :)

26 posted on 05/21/2006 5:52:35 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I could not resist!


27 posted on 05/21/2006 5:54:20 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Once a Snowflake, always a Snowflake ! Good luck Tony!)
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To: PJ-Comix
t r u t h o u t t h e w i n d o w
28 posted on 05/21/2006 6:14:58 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Mmm! The tears of unfathomable sadness! Yummy!)
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To: sirchtruth

Oh, now I'm a troll because I don't like the fact that Bush's poor PR campaign led to a 20 point drop in his approval.

It's more than his approval. When we're at war, it's important that the people understand why, that he counter the media, that he provide context.


29 posted on 05/21/2006 6:48:17 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: sirchtruth
Whatever anyones feelings about the whitehouses'dealings with problems are I don't see how anyone could not see that it needs to improve. A lot of image problems this whitehouse has were caused by the lack of response to some pretty stupid accusations.
30 posted on 05/21/2006 7:31:10 AM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: Laverne
The Wayne Madsen Report also sticks by its previous report -- ADMANTLY!

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

31 posted on 05/21/2006 8:30:14 AM PDT by Churchill Gomez
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To: PJ-Comix
Stupider is as stupider does.





Period. Dot. Bingo.

32 posted on 05/21/2006 8:33:17 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Petronski

Maybe TruthOut is waiting for Jason Leopold to complete calling ever single vet within a 20-mile radius of Washington in an attempt to debunk Luskin's claim that he took his cat to the vet on May 12, NOT spending the day in a 15 hour lockdown meeting with Fitzgerald at Patton Boggs. I'm chuckling just thinking of Leopold going thru his Yellow Pages list of vets and calling them up. BTW, Luskin has reported that he checked his cat's stools and they are fine now. Maybe Leopold will go thru Luskin's garbage to check on the status of his cat's stools.


33 posted on 05/21/2006 8:44:03 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: PJ-Comix

See, you lose me when you mention "cat stools."

LOL


34 posted on 05/21/2006 8:48:02 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: PJ-Comix
BTW, Luskin has reported that he checked his cat's stools and they are fine now. Maybe Leopold will go thru Luskin's garbage to check on the status of his cat's stools.

...? :)

35 posted on 05/21/2006 8:56:08 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: Patriot from Philly

The fact is that most of the country doesn't have a clue who Joe Wilson is, and could not care less.


36 posted on 05/21/2006 9:11:53 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Mmm! The tears of unfathomable sadness! Yummy!)
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To: PJ-Comix

It's looking Rather bleak.


37 posted on 05/21/2006 9:14:42 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Hope you're right. Because if the media has it's way, Joe Wilson will become synonymous with a saint, a noble creature. Just like nutty Sheehan became Peace Mom. We need to be out in front of this nonsense and not let them frame it. I like to call him Lying Joe Wilson, myself.
38 posted on 05/21/2006 9:21:24 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: bcsco

SeeBS and AP dug their heels in too and refused to concede that the documents COULD be fakes in the National Guard case. After a week of beating up on Bush, they relented.

That is the MO for the drive by media. Make the charge, stand by it, and then quietly admit the hoax after the public has already convicted the "guilty" in their minds.

You can apologize all you want after that, the damage has been done.


39 posted on 05/21/2006 10:44:44 AM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: Petronski

The full quote is "Period. Dot. Bingo. < crickets >"


40 posted on 05/21/2006 10:47:48 AM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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