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The Massive Yet Tiny Engine (gearhead tech breakthrough!)
American Antigravity ^ | 5/12/2006 | Tin Ventura

Posted on 05/21/2006 3:35:17 PM PDT by ovrtaxt

Imagine dumping the big V-8 in your SUV for a 25-pound, 2.4 liter engine that gives you 150 miles per gallon on biodiesel - with a boost in horsepower and torque to boot. Meet Raphial Morgado and the little engine that could... With up to 40 times the power to weight ratio of a conventional engine, flexible fuel compatibility, a displacement of 850 cubic inches and the torque of a 32-cylinder engine, the MYT is the beginning of a new paradigm for engines in the 21st century!

"The inspiration for the MYT Engine design came from the need to have an engine that can stand up to the tremendous abuse of drag racing. After literally blowing up more than my share of engines during racing, I swore to myself that I'd build something that met the required needs while providing higher-durability & reduced complexity in the process. Also, because this design was originally intended for the output demands of the drag-strip, I wanted a design that would give me the largest displacement, highest torque, and lightest weight available. The Massive Yet Tiny engine meets those needs, with 850 cubic inches of displacement, 32-pulses per cycle, and a 150 pound package measuring only 14" by 14" in diameter."

"By replacing an 800 pound V-8 engine with a 25 pound MYT and running it on biodiesel, we can achieve 150 miles per gallon in an otherwise conventional vehicle -- plus, you're going to have better take-off and stopping power by removing that 800 pound engine. That's what we can do. It is achievable." - Raphial Morgado

The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken by Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired by drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000 ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!

This series of 3 videoclips provides an in-depth look at what the MYT is, how it works, and why it's important. The "Los Angeles Auto-Show Presentation" features a 10-minute commentary on the technology by inventor Raphial Morgado, and provides details on the background of the engine and what makes it so unique. The "MYT Engine Description" clip is a 5-minute narrated animation providing a walk-through on the operation of the engine and how it compares to traditional interal combustion technology, and the "MYT Engine Testing" video shows both a closeup rotation of the cylinders in the Angel Labs prototype, as well as 2 minutes of test-videos shot with the MYT in dyno-testing on a 150-psi non-combustion airstream.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biodeisel; energy; engine; ethanol; oil; science; technology; zaq
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To: uglybiker

The 850 c.i. likely comes from the fact that the combustion chamber is a big donut-shaped tube. There are two sets of four pistons and they move back and forth relative to each other (while they all rotate around the donut). The total effective displacement is probably something like 150-200% of the area of the "donut".

Its weird, but it looks like he may have something.


41 posted on 05/21/2006 4:11:30 PM PDT by CertainInalienableRights
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To: uglybiker

I was thinking about that -- my '68 V8 Wildcat had a 430 CI engine and it was a MONSTER.


42 posted on 05/21/2006 4:13:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Governor of California, another job Americans won't do.)
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To: Publius6961
"Man, talk about a win-win-win scenario...
I can throw one of these puppies in my Prius, reduce total weight by 200 pounds, increase mileage threefold and have 7-second quarter miles..."

Yep! You'd be so light you could drive down the road, cut a fart, and blow yourself into low earth orbit.
43 posted on 05/21/2006 4:13:17 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")

Wouldn't it be -Wrinkled Dog Day?

44 posted on 05/21/2006 4:13:21 PM PDT by mountn man (Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional.)
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To: ovrtaxt

I am always sceptical of these things, but I must admit, this thing is pretty ingenious. I know the Wankel looks good on paper, and it runs great, but its just not as efficient as ones common sense might think, it has a bunch of problems.


45 posted on 05/21/2006 4:16:24 PM PDT by Paradox (Removing all Doubt since 1998!)
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To: rvoitier

The cars got a lot lighter and the engines got a lot more powerful. Top Fuel dumped carbs, uses fuel injection, and runs nitromethane now. Current horsepower estimates are in the 8000hp range.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_fuel_dragster

The 350mph barrier in Top Fuel is guesstimated to fall by the end of this decade, with people touching 400mph.

That said, the rocket-car folks are looking at the 500mph barrier in the 1/4...


46 posted on 05/21/2006 4:17:10 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Moonman62

You're a kneejerk cynic. Why don't you look at the recognition this has gotten from places like NASA and the auto industry?

But nevermind, it's more fun to be a jerk and meet everything with a jaded eye.


47 posted on 05/21/2006 4:18:17 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Spktyr

Er, with people touching 400mph in the next 15 years.


48 posted on 05/21/2006 4:18:18 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: uglybiker

Yup- 850 ci, dude.

It's calculated by displacement per revolution of the driveshaft. I think the cylinder fires like 16 times per rev.


49 posted on 05/21/2006 4:20:35 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: ovrtaxt

There goes a new design for the history heap. If this is true, it will go the way of many designs that have preceded it.


50 posted on 05/21/2006 4:20:57 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: ovrtaxt

Yeah!! I'll just bet! I pull a 12,000 pound trailer with a Ford Diesel. I'll just bet this would work and I'm willing to bet my life savings on this crap NOT!


51 posted on 05/21/2006 4:23:03 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: Publius6961

No, but for a small additional charge a flaming fairy from San Francisco can come over and bite you on the butt.


52 posted on 05/21/2006 4:23:34 PM PDT by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Am I the only one who noticed something wrong with this article. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think a 25 lb engine that has 2.4 liters of displacement has 850 cubic inches of displacement! This would be a huge engine and would have to be built of something lighter than titanium to weight only 25 lbs!


53 posted on 05/21/2006 4:25:19 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: ovrtaxt

If you used this engine to power an antigravity generator, you might get even better mileage.


54 posted on 05/21/2006 4:25:40 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nightdriver

By definition, one liter = 10 centimeters cubed = a cube of just under 4 inches X 4 X 4 (one inch = 2.54 centimeters, so to be very precise, 10 centimeters = 3.93 inches), so one liter = 60.67 cubic inches; therefore, 2.4 liters = 145.6 cubic inches.

Ergo, a 2.4 liter engine with 850 cubic inch displacement is mathematically impossible.


55 posted on 05/21/2006 4:25:47 PM PDT by bastantebueno55 (Viva Jorge W Arbusto!)
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To: CertainInalienableRights
It appears there is some mechanism to smoothe out the motion into a continuous rotation, it also likely regulates the movement of the two piston assemblies.

There are these counterweight things that spin with the piston assemblies- kind of reminds me of a rotor/ timing advance assembly in a distributor.

The way this works appears to eliminate a lot of the wasted motion (and thus power).

There are only 22 moving parts, I think, in the prototype.

Couple areas of concern - not sure how you would seal the combustion chamber when there are three pieces rotating against each other - I suppose it could be done with rings like pistons have.

Yes, the seals are apparently the issue with longevity. I think there's some info on that on the site- but with automakers involved, they may have something that meets the challenge.

56 posted on 05/21/2006 4:26:15 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Moonman62

Yep, the proof is in the pudding.


57 posted on 05/21/2006 4:26:21 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: ovrtaxt

Bump for later, but I'm one of the skeptics. I grew up in the "no replacement for displacement" era of motorhead.


58 posted on 05/21/2006 4:26:58 PM PDT by GBA
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To: rvoitier
330+mph!

That would not be fun at all. It might be interesting and exciting, but things happen way too fast at 330 mph.

59 posted on 05/21/2006 4:29:57 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: calex59

In the LA car show video I think the inventor said 25lbs would be the weight of a 1/4 scale version that would be put into autos.


60 posted on 05/21/2006 4:30:41 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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