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Anti-war Poseur speaks out (Not a chance He's really a Ranger)
Blackfive ^ | Blackfive

Posted on 05/22/2006 11:52:25 AM PDT by 91B

Blackfive already has a good start on this and Protein Wisdom is all over it as well, but any help Freepers can give in outing this wannabe would be much appreciated.


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KEYWORDS: fakeranger; jessiemacbeth; kerrywannabe; lyingleftyfraud; macbeth; phonysoldier; poseur
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To: 91B

What a complete goober. No way is this guy a Ranger.


51 posted on 05/22/2006 1:09:31 PM PDT by DemforBush
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To: cll
Plus, Fallujah was done by Marines, not Rangers, right?

Yes, the April, 2004 operation in Fallujah was the Marines, not the Army.

52 posted on 05/22/2006 1:09:45 PM PDT by Bohemund
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To: rangerX
Also, no Ranger would wear such a fu&%ed up looking beret.

Last time I saw a beret that goofy looking, the wearer was trying to get me to buy cookies.

53 posted on 05/22/2006 1:11:46 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: 91B

Good. A Lefty on another board I'm on had posted a link to the interview vid. I immediately asked for dates and units, and names of officers/NCOs who had told him to do this stuff. I got nada in response.

I predict this guy will make Al Hubbard look truthful.


54 posted on 05/22/2006 1:13:09 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Red Badger
Isn't there some list or roster or something that could verify this guy's claim? I just can't believe that this pos(eur) could be a Ranger..........

I'm sure that somebody that really is a Ranger is checking out the personnel rosters of Ranger units. He's not a Ranger, or SF, or anything else except a sorry little punk.

55 posted on 05/22/2006 1:16:09 PM PDT by rangerX (Sua Sponte)
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To: N. Theknow

I'll bet the beret in question was green.


56 posted on 05/22/2006 1:16:09 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Shudder-that's using a sledgehammer to kill a dung beetle...I'll do it.


57 posted on 05/22/2006 1:16:43 PM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: Hoplite

LOL... stupid is... as stupid does.


58 posted on 05/22/2006 1:17:33 PM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: 91B
Oh, I just love this time of year! It's good to see PJ so happy! The wailing, the shrieking, the gnashing of unbrushed teeth...Fitzmas brings laughter and more laughter to all the good children at Free Republic.

Karl Rove is even going to make it snow for 24 business hours, or is it just plain 24 hours, or maybe it's 24 business hours over a weekend, not including the holiday itself. I'll check with the people in Accounting, as unfortunately, I have to work. I'm a total capitalist pig so I want my holiday overtime!
59 posted on 05/22/2006 1:20:46 PM PDT by ishabibble
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To: SamFromLivingston; RikaStrom

ping to look at when not working (or pretending to work).


60 posted on 05/22/2006 1:24:49 PM PDT by RikaStrom (The number one rule of the Kama Sutra is that you both be on the same page.../Exeter 051705)
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To: ishabibble

I wanted a pony for Fitzmas but I got something better - William Rivers Pitt's head on a plate...


61 posted on 05/22/2006 1:32:37 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 91B
Impersonating A Ranger To Spread Lies

Re: Impersonating A Ranger

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=jessie+macbeth&search_type=search_videos&search=Search video

62 posted on 05/22/2006 1:32:50 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 ( http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
I think that this gentleman would be interested in talking to Mr. MacBeth.
63 posted on 05/22/2006 1:42:28 PM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: 91B; cll

Yeah, a buddy of mine flew one of the C-17s for that. I have a great pic of many of the C-17s lined up on the runway in Italy, getting ready to go. You can see about 15 aircraft in the frame. It's a "C-17s to infinity" type shot.

http://www2.jsonline.com/news/gen/mar03/128806.asp


64 posted on 05/22/2006 1:42:49 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: 91B
Winter Soldier Redux: Jesse MacBeth and IVAW
65 posted on 05/22/2006 1:43:17 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 ( http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com)
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To: PJ-Comix

Ping, in case no one has done so yet.

I don't have a thread at DU for you, but I know it's there.


66 posted on 05/22/2006 1:46:35 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster

FOB Bernstein near Tuz Khurmatu-where I spent almost a year-was named for a 173rd solider killed in action.


67 posted on 05/22/2006 1:47:21 PM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: SamFromLivingston

BTW, his first ribbon is the Bronze Star. With a Purple Heart next to it. What gets me is there is no "V" on the BS. I seriously doubt he would have, if he did, earned a BS in anything other than combat, which would make him eligible for the "V"!


68 posted on 05/22/2006 1:48:42 PM PDT by Keyga8tor
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To: af_vet_rr; ALOHA RONNIE; American in Israel; American Soldier; archy; armymarinemom; bad company; ..

ping







69 posted on 05/22/2006 1:54:19 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 ( http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Some poster had a thread about this, and he sounded hopeful somewhat that the guy is legit it seems:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1636365/posts?page=14#14


70 posted on 05/22/2006 2:04:44 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Oh No! Zombies!" Actually, they aren't. They just haven't had their coffee yet.)
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To: SamFromLivingston

Have you seen this?

http://www.homeofheroes.com/herobill/News/cottone.htm


71 posted on 05/22/2006 2:09:25 PM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: FreedomPoster; All
Dumpster threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1256448

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x212031

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1253822&mesg_id=1253822

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1253554

72 posted on 05/22/2006 2:11:34 PM PDT by SamFromLivingston
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To: Darksheare

Just dug this gem out of the DUmp:

"The date he gives for being with 3rd Battalion in Falujah is the date that 3rd Ranger Battalion was back in Ft. Benning getting awarded a campaign streamer for their Battalion Guidon."

The DUmmie says he is 3rd Ranger Batt so he oughta know.


73 posted on 05/22/2006 2:12:30 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: PJ-Comix

See the replied-to post for DUmmie threads.


74 posted on 05/22/2006 2:22:27 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: 91B

He's just the latest version of a "Winter Soldier", claiming to have committed attrocities when he was never in the military, or was actually a cook serving in another theater.

He's probably a recent convert to islam, who may have been in the Army, and may actually have served in Iraq, and is now shilling for the enemy.

I also doubt he'd be able to make through Ranger, or any SF school, with that stutter (unable to communicate clearly).


75 posted on 05/22/2006 2:28:42 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: USNBandit
I'm a Navy guy and was laughing at this guy's picture. Beret folded in the wrong direction

It's the same direction you generally see the Iraqi insurgents toss the end of the towel around their head/face, so as to not interfere with a rifle or RPG launcher held up to their right cheek.

A beret or ski mask offers no such challenge. But old habits die hard.

BTW: the French Foreign Legion and the Vietnamese Rangers, Special Forces/BDQ, and american advisors and straphangers thereof did indeed wear their beanies *pulled left*.

76 posted on 05/22/2006 2:29:48 PM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: GunnyBob

*GunnyBob ping*


77 posted on 05/22/2006 2:33:45 PM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: SamFromLivingston

I notice he did not put his picture on his Military.com profile. I wonder if he ripped off somebodies name and bio who really was in the 75th.


78 posted on 05/22/2006 2:38:13 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: cll

Fallujah was a joint Army / Marine endeavor. It's just that the Marines got all the press and credit. I know because my daughter, as part of the 1st Cav Div., was there. Lots of sleepless nights for dad.


79 posted on 05/22/2006 2:44:19 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: Bohemund
Yes, the April, 2004 operation in Fallujah was the Marines, not the Army.

Wrong. Marines just got all the credit. Half that battle belonged to the 1st Cavalry Div. Kinda pissed me off at the time, considering my daughter was taking part in that action.

80 posted on 05/22/2006 2:47:03 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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BTTT and bookbark


81 posted on 05/22/2006 2:58:05 PM PDT by OSHA (Chuck Norris sends Karl Rove Christmas cards.)
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To: PsyOp
Wrong. Marines just got all the credit. Half that battle belonged to the 1st Cavalry Div. Kinda pissed me off at the time, considering my daughter was taking part in that action.
Sorry. I'll defer to your firsthand knowledge. I was working off of news accounts that said the Marines were in the April operation, and that Marines and the 1st Cavalry Div. took part in the November operation.
82 posted on 05/22/2006 2:59:40 PM PDT by Bohemund
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To: Bohemund

Well, I must be referring to the November operation (that's when my daughter was there), the one in which Fallujah was cleaned out once and for all. So perhaps I'm in the wrong here. That was the big, "Final", battle.

I should have picked up on the "April" in your post.


83 posted on 05/22/2006 3:15:00 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: PsyOp

In any case, please pass on my thanks to your daughter for her service.


84 posted on 05/22/2006 3:21:09 PM PDT by Bohemund
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To: rangerX

> The trophy room is good stuff. Also sad that punks like those in the trophy room would try that crap.

I think it goes to the complete contempt moonbats have towards our military, its principles and its men and women. They really think it's just a bunch of guys running rag-tag killing civilians. And that impersonating them takes only an equal discipline and attention to detail.

They have no clue.

Note to DU and other lefty lurkers:

Take your favorite hobby. Restoring a Jaguar? Karate? The writings of Che? Whatever. You know someone who you're in awe of because of their knowledge. Rangers, Marines and other fighting men know THEIR stuff BETTER. Why? They LIVE/D it 24/7 for years. What did they talk about on their down time? Yup, military history, codes, regs, etc. It's not a way of life. It IS life.

You cannot jump into this elite group of brave Americans and just pull stuff out of your *ss. You are disheartened to report "that the site that should not be named smoked this guy out in 10 minutes"? You could do the same with *your* areas of expertise. Why is it such a surprise when a loser like "Ranger" MacBeth is spotted as a fraud in seconds?


85 posted on 05/22/2006 3:50:13 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: archy
Two pictures for your consideration

Ranger Pat Tillman

Poser Macbeth

Okay, which one is the real Army Ranger.

86 posted on 05/22/2006 3:52:24 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: PsyOp

Thank you for the clarification.

God Bless your daughter. God Bless her parents.


87 posted on 05/22/2006 3:59:51 PM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: 91B

I worked with a guy several years ago who claimed to be a ranger with a silver star from the first gulf war as a tanker. He retired as a staff sergeant and came back to work a few years later as a contractor with a major defense firm and PhD hung on the end of his name. They required a security clearance - oops EXPOSED! He even claimed to have written computer code for NASA and a lunar rover.


88 posted on 05/22/2006 4:16:43 PM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: Bohemund; cll

Thanks, I'll pass the word.


89 posted on 05/22/2006 4:32:07 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: cll

Had to go back to work. Good to meet ya!


90 posted on 05/22/2006 5:26:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (* Steroids are just a way to "level the playing field.")
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To: USNBandit
Poser Macbeth

Aside from his "deer in the headlights" expression, there's something physically wrong with the picture itself. The frame and the wall are in sharp focus. The picture itself is very diffuse, like it was behind frosted glass. Or the image was blown up from a much larger picture, and "pasted" into the frame.

Y'all have done a good job trashing the creds of this pathetic POS, but I figure a bit of extra piling on can't hurt.

91 posted on 05/22/2006 6:13:35 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; 91B

just another wannabe POS to play with. The more the lefties throw dung like this against the wall the better it is for us.

Same sh*t...different war.


92 posted on 05/22/2006 6:39:36 PM PDT by Khurkris (Don't blame me. I never answer the phone.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Now that is interesting.
Thanks for the heads up.


93 posted on 05/22/2006 7:09:23 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Oh No! Zombies!" Actually, they aren't. They just haven't had their coffee yet.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; SLB; archy

These guys always hang themselves. In this case, his Military.com bio is a dead giveaway. No human being on the face of the planet has been awarded the Combat Action Badge with Star. The CAB was initiated during the ongoing Global War on Terror and is not retroactive - No one has been awarded a star. Moreover, soldiers elibible for the Combat Infantryman's Badge cannot be awarded the CAB.

This guy is a 24 karat gold plated phoney. If you care to correspond with him directly, send your letter to: John F. Kerry, United States Senate, Attn: Winter Soldier Project.

My company made the mistake of hiring one of these phoneys. He claimed USMC special ops background (very, very rare), multiple decorations in the post Vietnam era (even more rare), and top secret records (only assignments are classified, not personnel records). Myself and another manager who is an ex-unit member blew a cork when we heard what this guy had claimed. In five minutes on the internet, we had completely smoked him. I'm sure that we could do the same with young Jason.

The wonders of the blogsphere and the internet ensure that the kind of fraud that was advanced by John Kerry and the Winter Soldier Project can never happen again. For that, I am glad.


94 posted on 05/22/2006 7:26:59 PM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Al Qaida's Best Friends)
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To: 300winmag
there's something physically wrong with the picture itself

Looks to me to be a bad Photoshop job. Look at the sharp line just under the beret, and the weird neck length.

95 posted on 05/22/2006 7:31:09 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: 91B

Some good discussion on this idiot here:
http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/showthread.php?t=60055
I think this guy better keep a low profile from here on out.


96 posted on 05/22/2006 7:40:47 PM PDT by ApeStyle
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To: ApeStyle

Protein Wisdom also has this interesting story from an Arizona newspaper in November of 2003.

http://www.eacourier.com/articles/2003/11/03/news/news02.txt

If he was in an assault on Fallujah, it would have been the invasion in spring of '03. Near as I can determine, however, the Rangers were assigned to Tikrit, not Fallujah.


97 posted on 05/22/2006 7:55:05 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Interesting Times
Ping!

It continues.

98 posted on 05/22/2006 8:34:55 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; 91B; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; All

What a pantload this kid is trying to hand us.

The story is so full of holes, Depot Maintenance couldn't patch them all.

That's not a uniform - that's a costume.

Another Winter Soldier. And he's being believed, just like JF'nK. The Left is now figuring that, if someone is getting "swiftboated", they must be the real thing.


99 posted on 05/22/2006 10:39:59 PM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; 91B; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; SLB; PsyOp; All

Okay, as of this hour, Blackfive is reporting that the poser's Military.com profile has been redacted to remove any references to CAB's or CIB's.

They also report that YouTube has pulled the video - at least they're not featuring it.

The Saga Continues...


100 posted on 05/23/2006 12:06:32 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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