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Mark Belling On Rush - apologist for do nothing on the border
RushLimbaugh Show ^ | May 23, 2006 | Mark Belling on Rush

Posted on 05/23/2006 11:33:17 AM PDT by BJungNan

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To: sinkspur

"This issue wasn't even on the radar in the 2004 elections. "

Not true. Both sides staked out public positions on immigration during the Presidential race.

For example, see here:



http://www.migrationinformation.org/Feature/display.cfm?ID=202
http://www.migrationinformation.org/feature/display.cfm?ID=232


61 posted on 05/23/2006 12:07:26 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: sinkspur
You and BJung need to go back and look at the timeline. Bush outlined a plan in early 2004, then again in 2005, indicating it was a priority of his.

I think you better go back and rethink your political spin on this. If border control was indeed a priority of Bush since early 2004, then the results of his efforts show him to be quite inept in his effort.

Please, don't insult everyone's intellegence. If they wanted to control the border, they could do it. If you think otherwise, then say so. But don't come here and suggest that some sort of effort has been in place. We know that if there was a will, it would of (and could of) been done.

Do you disagree with that?

62 posted on 05/23/2006 12:07:46 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Fiji Hill
I wish Rush would stick with Walter Williams as his backup quarterback.

The protectionists rant and rave every time Williams scoffs at the significance of the trade deficit.

It doesn't matter who Rush brings in. Some faction on FR is going to get its panties in a wad.

63 posted on 05/23/2006 12:07:56 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Prokopton
Not true. Both sides staked out public positions on immigration during the Presidential race.

Which the public proceeded to ignore.

64 posted on 05/23/2006 12:08:25 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: sinkspur
You and BJung need to go back and look at the timeline. Bush outlined a plan in early 2004, then again in 2005, indicating it was a priority of his.

I think you better go back and rethink your political spin on this. If border control was indeed a priority of Bush since early 2004, then the results of his efforts show him to be quite inept in his effort.

Please, don't insult everyone's intellegence. If they wanted to control the border, they could do it. If you think otherwise, then say so. But don't come here and suggest that some sort of effort has been in place. We know that if there was a will, it would of (and could of) been done.

Do you disagree with that?

65 posted on 05/23/2006 12:08:38 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: sinkspur

Yeah, conservatives should just shut up. And stay home.


66 posted on 05/23/2006 12:08:58 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: BJungNan
Same here - I like to listen to Rush but this person was abysmal ... what part of illegal doesn't he understand, and why is it ok for Mexico to deal with its illegals the way we should be doing?????

Rush had better screen his sub's a bit better .....
67 posted on 05/23/2006 12:09:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("The Americans on Flight 93 did more to counter terrorism than the Democrats have done in 4 years")
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To: sinkspur
Boy, are you ever spinning.

It was the Minutemen that caused the issue to be "addressed" by CONgress.

68 posted on 05/23/2006 12:10:19 PM PDT by sauropod ("Heaven on my left, Hell on my right and the Angel of Death behind me" - Dune)
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To: Mamzelle
Yeah, conservatives should just shut up. And stay home.

LOL!!! Playing the victim does not become you.

69 posted on 05/23/2006 12:10:39 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Luke21

Just getting repeat shows from WIND in Chicago.


70 posted on 05/23/2006 12:11:24 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: BJungNan

But who then do we vote for? This will be my first time to vote. Both parties are hopeless and pander to whoever makes the mose noise, ie, the bigger the march the better the voice ...


71 posted on 05/23/2006 12:12:14 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("The Americans on Flight 93 did more to counter terrorism than the Democrats have done in 4 years")
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To: sauropod
It was the Minutemen that caused the issue to be "addressed" by CONgress.

Got evidence of that? Until Sensenbrenner got on board in late 2005, Tancredo was a lone wolf on immigration, and it was not even a voting issue in 2004.

72 posted on 05/23/2006 12:12:16 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: BJungNan

It IS a difficult situation...and Mark described it as such. Mainly because Sick Willie did nothing all those years. This administration has had to clean up the disgusting messes left over from those 8 horrible years...fighting republicans as well as dems!

I would like one of the shouters here to actually deport 14 million men women and children...who came, have worked, paid taxes, been arrested and let go, ad nauseum.

Get a grip everybody.


73 posted on 05/23/2006 12:14:16 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: sinkspur

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election_debates,_2004#Questions_for_President_Bush

October 13, Debate No. 3,
Question 6. "At least 8,000 people cross our borders illegally every day . . . "


74 posted on 05/23/2006 12:14:45 PM PDT by tumblindice (But TD, it's `comprehensive immigration reform' don't you see? Yes, yes I do see. It's amnesty.)
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To: BJungNan

Why does Rush have a no-name liberal substituting for him?


75 posted on 05/23/2006 12:15:59 PM PDT by piceapungens
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To: sinkspur
"No, Belling is correct. There was nothing on either the House or Senate calendars this session to deal with immigration until Bush reiterated his desire in early 2005 for immigration reform."

hahahaha, thanks for the laugh Sink, I definately needed one today.

Bush's "immigration reform" = AMNESTY, open borders, Mexican truckers blasting through the borders hundreds of times per day: (Bush trucking deal with Mexico, Nov. 29, 2001).

76 posted on 05/23/2006 12:16:39 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: BJungNan
I too turned him off after he said we must pass this Senate Bill (something is better than nothing logic???) However, the caller indicated the Government could make a dent in illegal imigration if we would enforce the laws already on the books

Well said.

77 posted on 05/23/2006 12:16:47 PM PDT by Osprey (,/)
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To: sinkspur
This issue wasn't even on the radar in the 2004 elections. To say that Americans forced it is preposterous.

I'll bet you're not from California, where illegal immigration has been an issue for decades. In 1994, California voters forced this issue by passing Proposition 187, which sought to prevent illegal aliens from receiving taxpayer-subsidized benefits.

78 posted on 05/23/2006 12:17:21 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: eleni121

Sorry, but this is one we can't pin on Clinton. Enforcement has dropped dramatically in the US since 2002 (statistics have been posted numerous times). This is official malfeasance by the Bush admin. plain and simple.


79 posted on 05/23/2006 12:17:50 PM PDT by piceapungens
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Which the public proceeded to ignore.

Some did, that I will grant you. Interesting though how the protests of the illegals ramped up this issue. I wonder why?


80 posted on 05/23/2006 12:18:16 PM PDT by BJungNan
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