Posted on 05/23/2006 1:33:18 PM PDT by freedomdefender
Oh yeah, jump on the fractions of the Jew who says "roughly half."
But the originally-in-Greek but is a matter of opinion (of which I have none). Here, just for example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_primacy
Aramaic makes intuitive sense to me, especially when the pun phrases (described in the Wikipedia) come to light. I mean, how could you originate a writing in Greek of a translated statement when the underlying un-translated statement makes a word pun? (You'd have to know the underlying language.) That's Arse-Backwards!
How do you interpret that? Do you suppose your bad feeling might actually be the Holy Spirit prompting you to pray for them?
> More of the royal "we" actually.
The text is:
b'reshit bara elohim et-hashamayim v'et h'aretz
Do you know of other passages in which "elohim" is to be translated as a "royal we"?
Just to take one:
"I could go on about the many gods referenced in the old testament if you want?"
OK, go ahead.
But just so you know, the non-Elohim, lower-case, "gods" of the Old Testament are really anything that one values as before The God, not a reference to diety.
For example, one who loves NASCAR (or money or their job or whatever) to the point of making it their entire life has another "god" before "God."
An example of when speaking Hebrew is handy (and how English is limited in that regard).
LOL
Gotta love the wording "better than 1 in 4"
If the poll had to do with Bush - like how many people believe in - It would be "ONLY on in 4..."
Like totally DUH, we needed a pole to tell us this?
I like a good argument over religion as much as the rest so let me chime in.
Reading the four Gospels is like listening to eyewitnesses to a car wreck. All have differing versions of the same event. So best to not take everything too literally otherwise you might miss the message.
77% of Americans believe in the Holy Bible!!! Excellent!!!
God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. What you are referring to is part of the proof of the Trinity in the Old Testament and in no way undermines Scripture indeed it strengthens it.
okay DUH again. I meant Poll, not Pole.... Sorry I jsut totally made an ascii of myself.
No, I think he is suggesting that you are believing what others have told you is the word of God. If you cant read the actual texts that have been saved and dont have a first century or earlier worldview to understand what they meant when written, how do you know that it literally is word for word written by God? And how do you God's intent? When he wrote Genesis, did he mean for it to provide an explanation for how the Cosmos came to be and man's place in the cosmos or did he write a scientific explanation?
Sure, Moses used a plural God (elohim) --- coupled with a sigular verb --- frequently. ("Elohim" is in there probably 2,000 plus throughout the Old Testament.)
Note the "royal we" is but one conclusion.
Opinions differ. Some use this as evidence of the Trinity.
(Similarly, wishing to overcome issues re: Adam's children marrying people from "other lands" note the plural "men" as "man" (presumably referring to Adam) is similarly plural with considerable regularity --- as in "created [men] in own image."
John 14:12 - "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; ...
There is so much entrenched orthodox opposition in every institution to the meaning of that statement that it's sad.
The DaVinci Code is only the beginning of the uncovering of the mysteries of the universal Christ.
Psa 12:6 The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
There is a lot of prophecy in this verse which was fulfilled in the KJV.
I wouldnt be so sure of that given the number of fundementalists who believe that the cosmos was created five thouand or so years ago in a literal seven days because the Bible says so.
Biblical authors also wrote that some alive back at the time of the Crucifixtion would still be alive when Christ returned. So much for their understanding. I think if their had been another return back in the first century we would have heard of it. Its kind of like Pat Robertson saying he thinks God told him that the US is going to be hit by a tsumani this year
"Reading the four Gospels is like listening to eyewitnesses to a car wreck. All have differing versions of the same event. So best to not take everything too literally otherwise you might miss the message."
I guess you primarly mean the three synoptic gospels, but yes.
They each have a different emphasis and details, but none of the three really have any CONTRACTION with one another.
I believe that God will protect His Word, regardless of language.
Not to delve too deeply into Bible versions, but although the KJV ahs a few "errors" (i.e. substituting "hare" for "arnebeth") it's quite accurate. Also, the Textus Receptus matches up quite well compared to the more ancient texts which exist (discounting disreputable texts). Of course, there are some aspects of Hebrew and Greek which don't readily translate into English--Agape (sp?) love, for instance. But that's why we have handy interlinear Bibles.
Of course man is fallible--we'll make interpretation errors regardless of the language used. After all, look at the Pharisees, Sadducees, etc. They had a working knowledge of the language, yet were so blinded by their pride in their knowledge that they failed to recognize Christ as the Messiah.
I'm actually pretty sad to see that the number that believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God is so small.
(Joking. Joking! ...but that is how I read it the first time...)
;-)
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