Posted on 05/23/2006 7:13:05 PM PDT by jveritas
On page 40 of document ISGQ-2003-00000847 there is an October 2002 document where there is a request submitted by Zoo Al Fikar Military factory to the “Iraqi Directorate of Planning and Follow up” for 500 Kilograms of SODIUM CYANIDE (NaCN), 15 tones of HYDROCHLORIC ACID ( HCL), and 30 tones of SULFURIC ACID (H2SO4). Sodium Cyanide is an important precursor to produce a Chemical Weapon called HYDROGEN CYANIDE (HCN) also known as ZYCLON B and the use of Sodium Cyanide with Hydrochloric acid or Sulfuric Acid will produce this Chemical Weapon. Although Sodium Cyanide can be used for other military and civilian applications its combination with Hydrochloric Acid or Sulfuric Acid will produce Chemical Weapons and knowing Saddam Regime obsession of acquiring Chemical Weapons and other WMD, this document has a lot of importance.
Beginning of partial Translation of Page 40 of document ISGQ-2003-00000847.
Zoo AL Fikar Factory
Number 499
Date 26/10/2002
To: The Directorate of Planning and Followup
Subject: Need
Your memo number 384 on 3/10/2002 we submit to you below our need of Chemical Materials to the year 2003 to take what is necessary with regards.
1. Name of material: Nitric Acid. Unit: Liter. Quantity: 600. Origin: Iraqi.
2. Name of material: Third Oxide of Chrome. Unit: KG. Quantity: 500. Origin: English/Chinese.
3. Name of material: Dye . Unit: KG. Quantity: 25. Origin: Western.
4. Name of material: HCL. Unit: Ton. Quantity: 15. Origin: Iraqi.
5. Name of material: Hylite Zinc. Unit: KG. Quantity: 500. Origin: Western.
6. Name of material: SODIUM CYANIDE. Unit: KG. Quantity: 500. Origin: Western.
17. Name of material: SULFURIC ACID. Unit: Ton. Quantity: 30. Origin: Iraqi.
End of Partial Translation of page 40.
This paragraph from MSDS website regarding the danger of Hydrogen Cyanide (HCN) and how it can be obtained by mixing Sodium Cyanide (NaCN) and Sulfuric Acid (H2SO4).
”Exposure to 300 ppm hydrogen cyanide by inhalation can be fatal within minutes and lower doses can endanger life. The high toxicity of HCN was once exploited for the execution of prisoners in several US states; the HCN was generated as needed by dropping NaCN into a solution of sulfuric acid.” http://www.ilpi.com/msdS/ref/cyanide.html
No.
"Sodium cyanide is one component needed to make the nerve agents sarin, ..."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3685392.stm
"Sodium cyanide, which is also widely used to produce insecticides and in metal industries, is used to produce sarin gas."
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/09/19/2003203474
"Sodium cyanide is a dual-use chemical. It is used to make the nerve gas sarin."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/845772/posts
"North Korea was stopped at the last moment in its attempt to import from Thailand sodium cyanide, a toxic chemical used to make sarine nerve gas."
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200409/200409190032.html
"Sodium cyanide has many uses but can also be turned into the nerve agent sarin which causes paralysis and death. "
http://www.atsnn.com/article/82635
That one link didn't work to the GRL list.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/S-2002-515.pdf
..but Iraq had no WMD's /sarcasm off.
I don't believe any of those articles. If you want, you can't post the mechanism. I see no viable straight forward path to O-isopropyl methylphosphonofluoridate using NaCN at all.
This mix of Chemicals produces Hydrogen Cyanide Gas - a blood agent.
VX Nerve agent attacks the central nervous system.
Below describes what a blood agent does:
At room temperature hydrogen cyanide is a colorless liquid. Hydrogen cyanide, often known as known AC, is predominately absorbed through inhalation but both gaseous, liquid, as well as crystalized cyanide can also be taken up through the skin. Hydrogen cyanide is difficult to use in warfare because in is highly volatile which poses many problems. Along with being volatile, hydrogen cyanide is also non-persistent. If released in an open area, high concentrations of AC are hard to obtain, but if released in a confined area, high and lethal doses can easily be obtained.
Hydrogen cyanide has a faint odor that is similar to bitter almonds (not all people can smell this). In relation to hydrogen cyanide solubility, AC is highly soluble and stable in water.
Hydrogen cyanide belongs to a group of agents known as the CN-group. The CN-compounds hydrolyze slowly in water allowing for a gradual loss of toxicity. CN-compounds are also readily oxidized by strong oxidants. Hydrogen cyanide has an attraction for oxygen and is flammable. Along with its attraction for oxygen, CN-compounds, AC included, also have a strong attraction with metal ions (a reason for its lethal effects).
WHAT DOES HYDROGEN CYANIDE DO?
What makes hydrogen cyanide so lethal is the fact that it readily binds with metal-containing enzymes, such as the cytochrome oxidase enzyme system, an enzyme system that is essential for oxidative processes within the cell. When a cyanide ion binds with such an enzyme, cellular respiration is stopped because the fuel used (the cytochrome oxidase enzyme) is no longer produced. When cellular respiration ceases, bodily functions no longer receive the necessary oxygen and nutrients needed to survive, and therefore shutdown. Overall the cause of death due to hydrogen cyanide exposure is suffocation.
Didn't Saddam hide tons of pesticides adjacent to artillery shells?
You appear to be correct. I looked at the molecular structure of sarin and I can't see how sodium cyanide NaCN would come into play. The articles were written by journalists and not chemists so all chemical agents are probably the same thing to them.
I did see that sodium cyanide is used to make the nerve agent called 'tabun' and that Iraq had produced tabun before.
Yep, it is unbelievable! But I do think Iraq had to declare those chemicals to the UN it written form. If Iraq did NOT, then that is trouble.
That's what the liberals called keeping Saddam "boxed in" or "contained!" LOL! He had all the ingredients for his Kool-aid ready to mix at a moments notice. The reality of it is that Saddam at any moment could cook up WMD in 1 hour. He didn't need to have pre-mixed WMD.
The left has managed to redefine WMD, that's the problem we face.
I think you should publish a portion of list A so Freepers will see the craziness and utter incompetence of the UN. This damn list was done during the Clinton administration as it appears from the date. Please correct me if I am wrong.
UNSC Resolution 1409 (May 14, 2002)
Extends the oil-for-food programme by six months, and introduces a new import procedure. Only items on the annexed Goods Review List (GRL) are to be reviewed by the Sanctions Committee. Official version of the GRL (S/2002/515) are here (on the Unmovic site) and here (on the OIP site). Although the GRL is annexed to a letter from the US ambassador dated 3 May 2002 - before the resolution was even offically passed - it was only released on 14 August 2002. An unofficial version of the "Goods Review List" is also available on the UN Office of the Iraq programme website, in doc (2.2MB) and pdf versions (4.6MB). Some background is provided in the UN Press Release and a News Centre report. See also CASI's press release in response to the resolution (15 May 2002); Statement by Save the Children UK (May 2002); Statements by CAFOD of 16 May 2002 and 27 June 2002; and the analyses of Sarah Graham-Brown, Sanctions Renewed on Iraq (14 May 2002), and Colin Rowat, Iraq Sanctions Saga Continues amid Policy Confusion (10 June 2002). See also the fact sheet from the United States mission to the UN on the "Goods Review List" (14 May 2002).
Search on the string 'GRL'
http://www.casi.org.uk/info/scriraq.html
Some more about the GRL:
Resolution 1454 heightens the scrutiny over exports of a discrete set of goods that could support the Iraqi military and facilitate the development and use of weapons of mass destruction. Among the goods added to the revised GRL: specified chemicals and equipment useful in the production of chemical and biological weapons and their precursors; medical autoinjectors useful in the event of battlefield or terrorist chemical weapons use; guidance equipment and jammers with military applications; and other vehicles and related technology of value in particular military applications. Under certain conditions, specified medicines with particular value in chemical and biological warfare applications will also be reviewed.
http://usinfo.state.gov/is/Archive/2004/Apr/02-625954.html
Oh wow, wonder what happened to the troll we played with the other day? He could have used a ping of this thread (grin)
He's still reading the Peach/eyespysomething links!
Oh Saudauker, here's a little pingee.
On a more serious note, SittinYonder, I had overnight guests last night (a couple) and their oldest son works for the Pentagon. He is involved with the WMD search in Iraq.
They all say the WMD do exist, and are now in Syria.
Exactly what I have been reading here on FR, and believed, all along. I have believed it since I read about the convoy leaving Iraq in the buildup to the war, and when I read about the train (in Syria I believe) being hit with an unidentified missle of some sort -- the one carrying some chemical/nuclear weapons experts I believe. Remember that?
I predict this will be proven before the next presidential election.
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