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US Concerned About China's Military Buildup
Voice of America ^ | 23MAY06 | Al Pessin

Posted on 05/24/2006 12:47:23 AM PDT by familyop

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To: lndrvr1972
"Hate to say it but China is the oldest civilization and will be around long after we are gone."


I won't debate that, however I do find it interesting that Wal-Mart is the devil incarnate in all things, including being responsible for China to become the monster that ate the earth.


I had occasion to purchase a "Square D" well pump switch at Ace Hardware the other day.

Seems it was made in Mexico, and Square D is owned by a French corporation.

I am now guilty of supporting the French (spit-spit) and the Mexican's. (los gringo land here we come)

Am I a loser, or what?



21 posted on 05/24/2006 4:17:48 AM PDT by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of outthinking our adversaries?)
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To: familyop

Being currently assigned to Okinawa, I'm very aware of China's missile threat. All of us on the island are under the gun, so to speak.


22 posted on 05/24/2006 4:51:49 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: Waco

And Bush did what to stop it?


23 posted on 05/24/2006 4:53:04 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: jpsb
Keep shopping at wal-mart folks, China needs the money.

You can't blame all of this on WM. China has infiltrated all markets because at this point the rest of the world can't compete with them. I don't see it to be in China's best interest to start a war with anyone. Why kill your best customers.
24 posted on 05/24/2006 5:12:27 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek
Why kill your best customers.

In June 1941 Nazi Germany's largest trading partner was the Soviet Union.

25 posted on 05/24/2006 5:19:21 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: familyop

And couple with this: About 10 years ago, didn't the PRC complain when we proposed to give/sell AEGIS-equipped ships to Taiwan because the enhanced ability to detect the PLA's increasingly aggressive activities was seen as 'provocative'? Didn't Clinton cave on this?


26 posted on 05/24/2006 5:49:00 AM PDT by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Well said.

China's been eclipsed by the War on Terror, but prior to 9/11 they were the topic around here.

Free traders don't understand that China's economy isn't about free trade, it's mercantilist and dedicated to making themselves top dog.

I'm wondering what's going to happen as energy prices go up (10% this week) ? They seem to be tweaking the nationalistic even racist tendencies of their populace, as if priming them for war. They haven't got enough women for their men, thanks to the one child policy. They're still carrying a torch over Japan's occupation.

Horney men from one-child homes, a declining economy, a strong ethnic (Han) identity, nervous political elites...
We're in for 'interesting times.'


27 posted on 05/24/2006 6:50:30 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: familyop

This is bad news, just today morning I read in the newspaper Pakistan is buying 4 Chinese F22 frigates. China is building its navy along with that of its allies in the Indian Ocean in a big way. They are preparing for a showdown while US is caught up in Iraq and Afghanistan.


28 posted on 05/24/2006 6:54:36 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Ainast
china just decide to invade the United States of America?

They already have.

They invaded our federal government a long time ago, and especially own Senator Feinstein and the Clintons.

They have access to the port of long beach, control both sides of the panama canal, and are positioning themselves in the caribbean and South America virtually surrounding the US.

They are building their navy, but their merchant marine is vastly formidable and much larger than ours, including their ship building capabilities.

When Hu Jintao came to visit last month, his first stop was with our 'captains of industry' not our lowly president.
29 posted on 05/24/2006 6:58:55 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Japan is beginning to remilitarize in response to China's movees.Besides this, there is the oil in the South China Sea.


30 posted on 05/24/2006 7:03:29 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Ainast

"I am just wondering. Is there any country out there that could invade us. like tomorrow could china just decide to invade the United States of America?"

No. And we can't just up and invade China. However, China could invade Taiwan and dare us to intervene. With Bush in office? We would intervene. With a RAT in office? Taiwan would lose.

China could also move into Mongolia, North Korea or any country formerly occupied by the Soviet Union and there wouldn't be a thing militarily that could be done, outside of some whining from the UN.




31 posted on 05/24/2006 7:03:30 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats = The Culture of Treason)
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To: Ainast
could china just decide to invade the United States of America?

It is not possible. Even invading Taiwan is dubious.

32 posted on 05/24/2006 10:45:40 AM PDT by A. Pole (Rasmussen: "multiculturalism cannot work as intolerant culture will impose its will on tolerant one")
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To: snowsislander
"Considering how often the word "surprising" is applied by the analysts who study Red China's military progress, well, I wouldn't expect anything except sharp revisions downward on those time scales."

Yes. Here's our problem. Many of our officer veterans of the Vietnam years (including some in the Pentagon) continue to equate such Asians with monkeys (not me--them, as I've listened to too many of them) and assume that they are not intelligent enough to learn from our university engineering programs and to update military hardware. ...bad mistake, but what should we expect from the time of our hippies but vanities? Now the hippie generation is making big bucks ("live for today, but don't worry 'bout tomorrow, yeah, yeah") off of the Chinese.

Quite a few Freepers bow to the FAS site, too, though the FAS lefties are running nothing more than an antique show to lull us. Our US Defense publishes newer stuff than the FAS anti-defense freaks.

Sadly for all of us, they'll be even more surprised in the near future, if they don't stop underestimating certain foreign nations.
33 posted on 05/24/2006 11:35:16 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: Gengis Khan
"This is bad news, just today morning I read in the newspaper Pakistan is buying 4 Chinese F22 frigates. China is building its navy along with that of its allies in the Indian Ocean in a big way. They are preparing for a showdown while US is caught up in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Our military itself is not so caught-up, as only a small portion of it is in those countries. Only about three of our carrier groups would probably be enough to stop worst likely expansionist move--for now.

But you are correct in that China is taking advantage of the War on Terror in general to increase its military capabilities beyond its interests. Destabilization of the Middle East has been perpetrated for similar reasons in the past.

Our politicians and media people are caught-up and are trying to interfere with the needed building of our defense. They seek to under-fund defense projects and to appease nations that are building on aggressive intentions.
34 posted on 05/24/2006 11:43:48 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: familyop

You should also see the speed of Russia's military modernization/rebuilding. It is at a pace that has never been seen, even during the height of the cold war.


35 posted on 05/24/2006 12:32:13 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: jpsb

It is not just wal mart friend. It is nearly every business. Not just wal mart.


36 posted on 05/24/2006 12:33:53 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (You better prepare, the war is coming to the USA VERY SOON!)
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To: RetiredArmy

I know, now all retailers must sell Chicom goods to stay competitive, but 5 or 6 years ago it was just wal-mart. Wal-mart started it all.


37 posted on 05/24/2006 1:09:59 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: wolfcreek
China has a domestic market of over 1 billion people, the US market is less then 300 million and 5,000 miles distant. What US free traders are doing is jump starting the Chinese economy, at some point soon China domestic/Asian market will dwarf it's usa market and resources (oil/gas) will be far more important to the Chinese economy then selling to us.

Should China be able to humiliate the US say over Taiwan or some other incident US influence in the Pacific Rim will crumble and the Pacific Rim nations will ally/trade with the Chicoms not the USA.

Thank you very much free traders.

38 posted on 05/24/2006 1:20:18 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: tsomer; Ainast; RobbyS; EQAndyBuzz
”China's been eclipsed by the War on Terror, but prior to 9/11 they were the topic around here.”

The Muslims today remind me of the Indian Alliances a few hundred years ago.
Interesting how history kind of repeats it’s self, the savages never seem to go away.

In those days France was the primary concern for the English. Russia and China should be our primary concern today. The savages shouldn't be our main concern.

China and Russia are also working together with Muslims in the Sudan.

China has been up to last year ‘kinda’ working with the Tali-ban and Al Qaeda until Al Qaeda declared a Jihad on China. Now China has plans in the works with Russia to invade Muslim territories someplace in Kazakhstan bordering Xinjiang Province. This isn’t a matter of ‘if’ it is a matter of when they will invade.

”If china invades Taiwan or continues to build up as if it is going to, then I would bet Japan starts a serious build up as well.”

As RobbyS points out Japan is re-militarizing and at a rate nearly as fast as the Chinese though Japan has much better equipment. Japan could still be taken in the near future with the new Alliance between China and Russia.

39 posted on 05/24/2006 1:23:55 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: jpsb

Wal Mart did not "start it." We have been importanting goods from China well before just Wal Mart did it. The USA has always done this. Shoe makers, even baseball gloves made in other countries. You can bash Wal Mart all you want if you desire, but Wal Mart is not the causer here. Wal Mart simply followed all the others before it.


40 posted on 05/24/2006 1:27:02 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (You better prepare, the war is coming to the USA VERY SOON!)
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