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Bordering on fraud: Part II (Thomas Sowell)
Townhall.com ^ | 05/24/2006 | By Thomas Sowell

Posted on 05/24/2006 6:46:20 AM PDT by oxcart

Of all the insults to our intelligence in the current discussions of immigration legislation, the biggest insult is the claim that border control legislation and legislation on the illegal immigrants already in the country must go together.

Why? What will happen if they are done separately? And who will be worse off?

The claim that the two pieces of legislation must be passed at the same time has been repeated endlessly. But endless repetition is not a coherent argument.

At the heart of this issue is the question whether Congress and the Bush administration are serious about controlling the borders and about letting the number and kind of immigrants allowed into this country be decided in the United States, not in Mexico.

Whatever number and kind of immigrants the United States wants to admit into this country, that decision means nothing unless that limit is enforced at the borders. Nor is there any way to know in advance how effective any particular method of border control will turn out to be in practice.

The only way to know whether fences, national guardsmen or anything else will work is to wait and see before issuing blanket amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, virtually guaranteeing that millions more will follow, as has happened in the past.

A Congressional package deal is not about border control. It is about trying to get the Hispanic vote without losing the votes of other Americans. It is about allowing politicians to vote on both sides of this issue to cover themselves politically.

Once such legislation passes, the guarantee to illegals is immediate and its consequences permanent for them and for successive generations of their offspring. But what actually happens at the border is left up in the air.

It may be significant that, with all the talk about the preconditions to be set for illegal immigrants to get American citizenship, nothing has been said about one of the easiest ways of getting American citizenship, without having to learn English or do anything else.

Pregnant women from Mexico simply walk across the border and have their babies in American hospitals. This creates an instant American citizen who cannot be deported and whose family members would be hard to deport.

Those who claim to want to "control the borders" with this package-deal legislation don't even talk about this, much less try to do anything about it.

Let's return to the question of what would happen if border control legislation were to be voted on separately from amnesty legislation, instead of in the current package deal.

First of all, we would find out who is serious about border control, especially if the question of amnesty (by whatever name) is postponed for some definite period of time, in order to first see what happens at the border before taking that irrevocable step.

Who would lose anything by this separate consideration of the two pieces of legislation? The country would not lose anything. Neither would the illegal aliens already in the country.

The biggest losers would be politicians. They could no longer be on both sides of the issue by voting for a package deal but would have to stand up and be counted on border control.

Some say that the Democrats would filibuster a bill that offered border control separately. Fine. Let them!

Let them show their true colors in an election year and then go face the voters in the fall.

Of course, those Republicans who are either weak-kneed or who share the Democrats' views would also lose the political cover of being able to vote on both sides of the immigration issue.

But the country would be better off not to commit itself to guaranteeing the permanence of millions of illegal aliens and all their descendants thereafter without getting anything more than pious hopes about controlling the border.

As for not being able to pass immigration legislation separately, that claim has already been refuted by those who made it. The Senate has just passed a bill allowing illegal aliens to collect Social Security, even if they were hired with forged or stolen Social Security cards.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: bushamnesty; invasionusa; thomassowell

1 posted on 05/24/2006 6:46:21 AM PDT by oxcart
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To: oxcart

Part I is here; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1636823/posts


2 posted on 05/24/2006 6:46:47 AM PDT by oxcart (Journalism (Sic))
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To: Gordongekko909

(((PING)))


3 posted on 05/24/2006 6:47:36 AM PDT by oxcart (Journalism (Sic))
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To: oxcart

Great Analysis.


4 posted on 05/24/2006 6:51:53 AM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: oxcart

ping for later.


5 posted on 05/24/2006 6:53:33 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: rcocean

He lays it out in plain simple ENGLISH!


6 posted on 05/24/2006 6:53:53 AM PDT by oxcart (Journalism (Sic))
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To: oxcart

This is the best piece I've seen that makes it clear we are being hustled by our wonderful Congress. The CIC is complicit. They're all really ducking the BORDER CONTROL issue. That's the reality, whether we face it or not.


7 posted on 05/24/2006 7:03:06 AM PDT by B.Bumbleberry
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To: oxcart
Magnificent sense by Thomas Sowell.

The Senate and Bush will ignore it, as usual.

8 posted on 05/24/2006 7:18:04 AM PDT by Gritty (Up there in that soundproof world where Senators live, truth scarcely matters - Phil Brennan)
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To: oxcart

Sowell's at it again.... making way too much sense.


9 posted on 05/24/2006 7:23:31 AM PDT by cpanter
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To: oxcart

excellent post -- I've been cc:ing some of these articles back to Ken Mehlman and other senders of all those GOP emails ... wonder if it's sinking in at HQ....


10 posted on 05/24/2006 8:13:32 AM PDT by Tirian
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To: oxcart
The claim that the two pieces of legislation must be passed at the same time has been repeated endlessly. But endless repetition is not a coherent argument.

The Simpson Mizzoli bill that passed in 1986 was just such a piece of "comprehensive legislation." The government chose to ignore the enforcement provisions of the law. Thus to accept ANOTHER piece of "comprehensive legislation" is an act of foolishness.

The principal reason for separating enforcement and border security from the "comprehensive legislation" and demanding that they be accomplished first, is that without that leverage, enforcement and border security will be ignored again.

11 posted on 05/24/2006 8:47:56 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Tirian

I do the same, and have yet to get a reply other than the standard "Form" letter.


12 posted on 05/24/2006 8:51:45 AM PDT by oxcart (Journalism (Sic))
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To: oxcart

Bookmark for later... same issue as yesterday. Maybe I should email the list to myself or something?


13 posted on 05/24/2006 8:57:15 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Alissa; balrog666; beyond the sea; BraveMan; brf1; Capriole; CarolinaGOP; ...
Thomas Sowell *PING*

FRmail me if you want on or off the Thomas Sowell Ping List.

14 posted on 05/24/2006 2:56:33 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Gordongekko909

A realistic assessment of the whole mess. Dr. Sowell is way out in front of most of the politicians on the hill. Looks like yesterdays combatants ran out of ammo. :-)


15 posted on 05/24/2006 3:22:07 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: jazusamo

Yeah, I saw the Admin Moderator come in with threats of "vacations." I guess that took the wind out of a few sails.


16 posted on 05/24/2006 3:32:00 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: oxcart
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17 posted on 05/24/2006 6:09:22 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!)
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To: Gordongekko909

""As for not being able to pass immigration legislation separately, that claim has already been refuted by those who made it. The Senate has just passed a bill allowing illegal aliens to collect Social Security, even if they were hired with forged or stolen Social Security cards.""

And we need illegal immigrants to come here because??


18 posted on 05/24/2006 6:22:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: jazusamo
Sowell cuts the Gordian Knot, as usual. "Oh, we can't enforce the law against 10 million scoflaws," is a red herring which has nothing to do with the actual issue.

The actual issue is whether the immigration quotas make sense, and if they do whether people who fit the (poor, nonwhite) Democratic demographic actually should be preferred over people who fit the rich middle class Republican demographic.


19 posted on 05/25/2006 1:38:31 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Gordongekko909
Put me on it if you will.

Dr. Sowell makes more sense than just about anybody else. And that includes the President and most of the Republicans in the Senate.

L

20 posted on 05/25/2006 1:44:20 AM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: oxcart
The Senate has just passed a bill allowing illegal aliens to collect Social Security, even if they were hired with forged or stolen Social Security cards.


21 posted on 05/25/2006 1:53:23 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: oxcart
Omnibus Bills are the natural habitat of the fledgling earmark.

The earmark, once fully grown, is known by its voracious appetite and diet, consisting of anywhere from millions to billions of tax dollars.

They frequently lurk in home districts and often appear unrelated to the Cmnibus sp., to which they are a symbiote, not a relative.

The most common variety, Earmarkus liberalis, is often recognized by the distinctive cry of "for the common good!" and "for the childrennnn".

22 posted on 05/25/2006 2:33:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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