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Another Fake Soldier Tale Debunked
Realclearpolitics ^ | 5/24/06 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 05/24/2006 9:14:55 AM PDT by listenhillary

Meet "Jessie MacBeth." He's the latest cause celebre of the anti-war Left -- a "former Army Ranger and Iraq war veteran" who accuses his fellow troops of committing a litany of atrocities against innocent civilians. Anti-Vietnam War veteran John Kerry and the Winter Soldiers cast a long shadow.

In his 20-minute Internet video interview at peacefilms.org, which promises that watching the video "will change your life," MacBeth (who also claims to have served in Special Forces) says:

--Superiors told him "our job over there is to strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqis . . . to be brutal and to not feel" and that "the Geneva Convention doesn't mean crap."

-- He would "do night raids, pull people out, on their knees and zip-tied," and if a man didn't answer the way he wanted him to, he "would shoot his youngest kid and keep going."

-- "By my hand alone . . . almost 200 people were taken out by me.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: agitprop; antiamericanism; bullzogby; cultureofcorruption; falsewitness; fraud; jessemacbeth; jessiemacbeth; lyingliars; makkingitup; myspace; phonysoldier; powerghraib; treason; usefulidiot; waronerror; wintersoldier2; wintersoldierii; zogbyism
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1 posted on 05/24/2006 9:14:57 AM PDT by listenhillary
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To: listenhillary

KERRY: "...razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Jessie MacBeth..."

2 posted on 05/24/2006 9:18:22 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: 91B; Sam Hill

Ping


3 posted on 05/24/2006 9:19:04 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: listenhillary

Finally! The TRUTH BE KNOWN! (it always was)............


4 posted on 05/24/2006 9:19:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: frogjerk

IMHO, this outright treason. I hope this clown and those invloved go down hard for this...


5 posted on 05/24/2006 9:19:38 AM PDT by fhlh (Polls are for Strippers.)
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To: listenhillary
Meet "Jessie MacBeth." He's the latest cause celebre of the anti-war Left -- a "former Army Ranger and Iraq war veteran" who accuses his fellow troops of committing a litany of atrocities against innocent civilians.

It is both revealing and sad that there are so many insane people on the left. They mean well, but...

This is tried at least once a year. Insanity prevents the perpetrators from realizing that it never worked before and is never likely to ever work... not in 2006, certainly.

Of course, if it is done entirely to massage their private circle j*** and to create urban legends that will live forever going from insane mind to insane mind...

I guess it serves some purpose, twisted though it may be.

6 posted on 05/24/2006 9:20:19 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: listenhillary

Were these experiences "seared into his memory"?


7 posted on 05/24/2006 9:21:07 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: listenhillary

I say try him on war crimes (based on his testimony) and throw him in jail. He can try to prove his innocence.

The lier should be forced to tell the truth.


8 posted on 05/24/2006 9:21:41 AM PDT by NeilGus
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To: fhlh

Sure, he'll get his....right after John Kerry does.


9 posted on 05/24/2006 9:22:38 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! ("Just give me a chance! Give me a chance!" - Taylor Hicks at the Las Vegas auditions)
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To: NeilGus

I agree with you so much I can't stand it. Admit you're a liar or go to prison for war crimes. What a POS.


10 posted on 05/24/2006 9:23:13 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic ■Št gehate, ■Št ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille fur­or gan,)
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To: listenhillary

Anyone got the G.I. Joe pic?


11 posted on 05/24/2006 9:23:18 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: listenhillary
There's just one problem: According to Department of the Army spokesman Paul Boyce, there is no record of "Jessie MacBeth," a.k.a. Jesse Adam MacBeth, having served in either the Rangers or the Special Forces -- or in any part of the Army at all. Boyce told me Tuesday that a check on MacBeth's credentials came up empty. "At a minimum, this appears to have been concocted" and "some sort of hoax," Boyce said. Special Operations Command and the State Department have been alerted.

Oops!

12 posted on 05/24/2006 9:24:27 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: listenhillary

Amazing that in this information age people think horse*%^$ like this will last undetected for more than an hour.


13 posted on 05/24/2006 9:25:12 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: listenhillary

MURTHA: "But it's the seriousness of the charges that matter..."

14 posted on 05/24/2006 9:26:14 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: listenhillary

Good job, Michelle Malkin. The anti-war left's eagerness to lap this stuff up is a commentary on both their reflexive anti-Americanism and how few of them know anything at all about the military--this guys's claptrap is so obvious, anybody who's ever served would have raised the BS flag.


15 posted on 05/24/2006 9:26:25 AM PDT by mark502inf
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To: frogjerk
Here's a VERY worthwhile commentary of "Maddog" Macbeth from his comrads-in-arms.

http://opinionator.blogs.com/the_opinionator/2006/05/no_s_there_i_wa.html

16 posted on 05/24/2006 9:27:42 AM PDT by Smedley
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To: listenhillary

Quality control is at an all-time low over at DUmmieland. And that's saying something.


17 posted on 05/24/2006 9:29:08 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (An immigration-thread-free FReeper as of...now!)
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To: frogjerk
MURTHA: "But it's the seriousness of the charges that matter..."

Would you say the same if you were, say, being accused of child molestation or something smiliarly henious, Rep. Murtha???

18 posted on 05/24/2006 9:29:40 AM PDT by susannah59
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To: frogjerk
KERRY: "...razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Jessie MacBeth..."

I really did LOL.

19 posted on 05/24/2006 9:30:11 AM PDT by mark502inf
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To: Smedley
Great comment at that site you linked to:

Regarding Jesse Macbeth and those like him, don't you love how the frauds are always Rangers or SEALs or “Green Berets.” No one ever says. “I worked in the motorpool washing Humvees.”

20 posted on 05/24/2006 9:30:46 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (An immigration-thread-free FReeper as of...now!)
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To: Publius6961
It is both revealing and sad that there are so many insane people on the left. They mean well, but...

They mean well? What are you smoking?

21 posted on 05/24/2006 9:32:16 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: susannah59
henious

Ooops! Meant "heinous."

Note to self: use spell check!

22 posted on 05/24/2006 9:32:33 AM PDT by susannah59
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To: fhlh
IMHO, this outright treason. I hope this clown and those invloved go down hard for this...

I do believe it's a federal crime to impersonate a member of the military.

US Code
TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 33 § 702

Uniform of armed forces and Public Health Service

Whoever, in any place within the jurisdiction of the United States or in the Canal Zone, without authority, wears the uniform or a distinctive part thereof or anything similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of any of the armed forces of the United States, Public Health Service or any auxiliary of such, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.


TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 43 § 912.

Officer or employee of the United States

Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

So lock the SOB up.

As far as it being Treason, it would seem to give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States.

23 posted on 05/24/2006 9:33:00 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: frogjerk

Help, please!
Did I miss something here, or is this guy's blather what Murtha is using as a basis for HIS blather?
Sorry if I'm sounding stupid...did Murtha really pull a Dan Rather?


24 posted on 05/24/2006 9:33:36 AM PDT by Ike (My idea of election reform - blue fingers in Philadelphia!)
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To: Publius6961
"It is both revealing and sad that there are so many insane people on the left. They mean well, but...'

They mean who well exactly? Bin Laden?
25 posted on 05/24/2006 9:34:41 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: listenhillary
Just the typical democrat party operative, perhaps a bit more stupid than usual.


26 posted on 05/24/2006 9:34:50 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
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To: ko_kyi
A humorous post seen at DU:

58. Recommend this thread if you believe DU should be reality-based.

Edited on Mon May-22-06 10:23 PM by Clarkie1 Are we a reality-based community or not? One of the threads supporting this imposter has 51 recommendations.

Recommend it for all the men and women who serve honorably in the United States armed forces. Yes, the U.S. military has committed atrocities, but lies like this only serve to undermine our own credibility, dishoner those who serve, and aid those who wish us harm.

The good name of DU is at stake. Where do you stand?

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

27 posted on 05/24/2006 9:34:50 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: NeilGus
He should spend some time with REAL RANGERS in the beautiful confines of Harmony Church.

I suspect the lad would last for about 3 nano-seconds.
28 posted on 05/24/2006 9:36:03 AM PDT by roaddog727 (eludium PU36 explosive space modulator)
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To: neodad
Anyone got the G.I. Joe pic?

And his address?

29 posted on 05/24/2006 9:36:08 AM PDT by navyblue (at one.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!; All
You might find this interesting

His name was legally changed from Jesse Adam Al-Zaid in 1986, when he was two years old.

Jesse MacBeth

30 posted on 05/24/2006 9:36:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: frogjerk
MacBeth in phony Iraqi war vet costume:


31 posted on 05/24/2006 9:36:19 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
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To: Smedley

Here's his MYspace.com page.

http://www.myspace.com/shadowhart

Have at it.


32 posted on 05/24/2006 9:38:24 AM PDT by Master of Orion
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To: frogjerk


"Reality based community"...yeah...right...


33 posted on 05/24/2006 9:40:16 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: frogjerk

That is a gem :)


34 posted on 05/24/2006 9:40:21 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: listenhillary
Related threads:

(Army Ranger Poseur) Jesse MacBeth’s Damned Spotty Background

Anti-war Poseur speaks out (Not a chance He's really a Ranger)

35 posted on 05/24/2006 9:40:23 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: El Gato

According to a school paper article about his nearly fatal battle against some barristas at Arizona State, he said he flashed a military ID. That ID would, of course, be fake.


36 posted on 05/24/2006 9:40:33 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: listenhillary

Still the "Jenjhis Kahn" mentality. Notice how similar the words of this "veteran" are to those of one John Forbes Kerry, who was reportedly a naval officer who served in Viet Nam.

The guy missed the charge of connecting telephone wires to the genitals of captured civilians and applying voltage through that means.


37 posted on 05/24/2006 9:41:28 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Darkwolf377
Quality control is at an all-time low over at DUmmieland. And that's saying something.

Over at DU they are blaming Rove for planting these kinds of stories...Hence we should send them this...


38 posted on 05/24/2006 9:41:35 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: frogjerk

Is it okay now to question the patriotism of those who’d lie about the behavior of our soldiers and commanders in order to undermine support for the war?

39 posted on 05/24/2006 9:43:58 AM PDT by Smedley
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To: Master of Orion
A good entry on his myspace page:

Nothin Special

5/23/2006 6:57 PM

Your so full of sh*t dude, first of all your beret is not on right second of all your patches are not on right, third I have never met any ex spec ops or ranger who has made it through ranger training that skinny. If your CO knew you stttttudered he would have never let you have 11b status oppurtinity. Also you image was the worst photshopped image I have seen in a long time. j Rangers never deploy longer than a few months. Thay are strictly a DA force who seeks and destroys badass warriors and your put them to shame saying you speak for them. Another point 3 battalion is at ft benning not washington which is second battalion. But if I am way off for some random reason please enlieghten me to what is the standard rifle of the rangers what is the standard saw. Shoot you could probably tell me what type of body armor you use since it isnt the interceptor. Its obvious your a fake becuase you have no facts right have spec ops patches when you say your a ranger just curious as too how much peacefilms is paying you. Everybody I ran a check on the name and their is nobody under this name who served active OIF or OEF duty as a ranger or standard infantry in the u.s army.

40 posted on 05/24/2006 9:44:43 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: frogjerk

LOL... classic!!!

more positive proof the Dummies over at DU are indeed, DUmmies.


41 posted on 05/24/2006 9:44:48 AM PDT by fhlh (Polls are for Strippers.)
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To: frogjerk
"Over at DU they are blaming Rove for planting these kinds of stories'

Hey guys, isn't Rove just wonderful?
I mean..this guy is all powerful, all seeing, possesses insane magical powers, is able to read Dumbocrat minds and even make them say and do stupid things (like that clever Rove making Sandy Burgler stuff classified documents up his pants for example)...
Heck why even bother to campaign for November at all gentlemen?
All the super powerful Rove has to do is wave that good ole magic wand of his, and KAZAAAM..he will make Bush-hating KosDu/moveon vermin turn round and vote Republican all of sudden, like in a dream. :)
42 posted on 05/24/2006 9:49:53 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: frogjerk

Oh, yeah, I LOVE how they automatically blame every damned thing on Rove. If the guy were this all-seeing, do they think Bush's ratings would be lower than the speed limit in a school zone?


43 posted on 05/24/2006 9:53:31 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (An immigration-thread-free FReeper as of...now!)
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To: frogjerk; All

I hope someone archived the video that got pulled.


44 posted on 05/24/2006 9:57:27 AM PDT by listenhillary (The original Contract with America - The U.S. Constitution)
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1637563/posts


45 posted on 05/24/2006 9:58:23 AM PDT by listenhillary (The original Contract with America - The U.S. Constitution)
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To: listenhillary

It would be helpful if some of his buds spoke up to contradict him...like the swift boat sailors.

THIS MacBeth also sounds like a genuine scumbag.


46 posted on 05/24/2006 10:00:15 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: El Gato

"As far as it being Treason, it would seem to give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States."

Do you think US Federal prisons have enough room for the entire editorial staff of the NYT?


47 posted on 05/24/2006 10:02:13 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: ko_kyi

It doesn't really matter whether it gets debunked instantly. Just to leftist websites and see how they are still believing the Rather/60 Minutes documents and the "Downing Street Memo." Truth doesn't matter at all. Lefties AND the media still believe that John Kerry is a war hero. At that is really needed is that an over-the-top allegation make it to the media so it can get into Lexus and it can live forever.


48 posted on 05/24/2006 10:03:02 AM PDT by bpjam (Opinion Polls Don't Protect Our Borders.....)
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To: frogjerk

I don't care who ya are...that there is funny.


49 posted on 05/24/2006 10:06:26 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Roselani

ping to #1


50 posted on 05/24/2006 10:06:51 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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