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National Guard to Head to the Border(The first 800 next week - 6,000 troops first year)
The Chron/The Associated Press ^
| May 24, 2006
| LOLITA C. BALDOR
Posted on 05/24/2006 10:13:08 AM PDT by IrishMike
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And they said the two-year plan _ which calls for using up to 6,000 troops at a time in the first year, and no more than 3,000 in the second year _ will not overtax the guard or impair troops' ability to train or prepare for combat.
Some committee members echoed complaints from critics who have suggested that the border plan would overburden a National Guard that is already stretched by deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. But Blum said the border program, coupled with the approximately 71,000 Guard members deployed overseas, still leaves more than 350,000 Army and Air Guard available for other homeland defense or disaster assistance.
David Aguilar, chief of the border patrol, also told lawmakers that the plan will be augmented with additional, strategically located fencing, as well as an increased of about 6,000 border patrol guards by some time in 2008.
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:13:11 AM PDT
by
IrishMike
Okay, now what's gonna happen when the first American Guard personnel is shot? You KNOW it's gonna happen.
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:14:55 AM PDT
by
RandallFlagg
(Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
To: IrishMike
Under the plan, most of the troops would spend about 21 days, which includes their normal annual two-week training mission, working along the border. The Guard troops would be used for engineering, road and fence building, transportation, logistics and surveillance and reconnaissance. No weapons, no ammo, no enforcement. They are there for show...
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:15:15 AM PDT
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
To: IrishMike
wasting away again in not-Iraq...
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:16:48 AM PDT
by
GraniteStateConservative
(...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
To: IrishMike
Spending their "vacation"...
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:17:47 AM PDT
by
dakine
To: IrishMike
Like Carlos Mencia said when you send troops with no power and no weapons to the border they become greeters.
To: 2banana
It must be an election year! The plan has always been to let the BP do the enforcement, with the NG freeing up BP resources to do the enforcement, and building the border fence.
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:18:59 AM PDT
by
TheDon
(The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
To: IrishMike
Anyone: Is the NG really "stretched" ? What are the facts?
Anecdotally I know NG member who joined several years ago with the motivation to fight terrorists in Iraq. They and their units (one Chicagoland, one downstate) have not bee sent anywhere except WI and GA (Ft Benning). So if those who joined several years ago for the purpose of going to Iraq have not yet been sent, how "stretched" is the NG?
It isn't a rhetorical question. I really don't know and wold like to know if the "talking point" has any truth behind it.
To: RandallFlagg
Okay, now what's gonna happen when the first American Guard personnel is shot? You KNOW it's gonna happen. I posed this same question after the announcement that they would basically be down there as unarmed, Radar O'Reilly Company Clerks. LEOs down there have been getting shot AT forever, and Sheriff Flores in Webb County has been BEGGING for help in DC as a result (and begging for our prayers too), and very little has been done. What happens when a U.S. military person is shot or shot at.
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:21:16 AM PDT
by
hispanarepublicana
(Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
To: GraniteStateConservative
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:21:39 AM PDT
by
hispanarepublicana
(Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..
To: 2banana
I heard they are allowed to carry weapons where required and they have the power to detain. However, they cannot arrest. They would have to wait and let the detainees they captured be arrested by the Border Patrol.
Am I wrong?
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:23:02 AM PDT
by
hawkaw
To: spintreebob
Anecdotally I know NG member who joined several years ago with the motivation to fight terrorists in Iraq. They and their units (one Chicagoland, one downstate) have not bee sent anywhere except WI and GA (Ft Benning). So if those who joined several years ago for the purpose of going to Iraq have not yet been sent, how "stretched" is the NG? Load of crap - it is easy to find a unit going OIF or OEF - even easier to "straphang"
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:23:26 AM PDT
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
To: spintreebob
.............Some committee members echoed complaints from critics who have suggested that the border plan would overburden a National Guard that is already stretched by deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. But Blum said the border program, coupled with the approximately 71,000 Guard members deployed overseas, still leaves more than 350,000 Army and Air Guard available for other homeland defense or disaster assistance.................
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:24:26 AM PDT
by
IrishMike
(Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
To: Texas_Jarhead
I have caught his shows a few times on comdy channel...He is a hoot. So un PC...how does he get away with it? ha/.
To: hispanarepublicana
What happens when a U.S. military person is shot or shot at.
If the presence of the National Guard on the border in any way hampers the drug trade then we may find out soon enough.
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:26:57 AM PDT
by
P-40
(Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
To: hawkaw
Rumsfeld on O'Reilly repeated several times "there will be rules of engagement" whatever that means.
To: spintreebob
I am in central Il...my hubby's unit has been to Iraq and is rotating back in 07.....my son's unit is not going so he transferred to another unit that is....
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:28:08 AM PDT
by
mystery-ak
(Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: RandallFlagg
At the first casualty the MSM will declare our border a quagmire and demand immediate withdrawal, naturally.
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posted on
05/24/2006 10:29:56 AM PDT
by
txhurl
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