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Elton John Blames Catholic Church Instead of Gay Sex for Death of Gay Friends (..and why not ???)
LifeSite.net ^ | Wednesday May 24, 2006 | Terry Vanderheyden

Posted on 05/25/2006 7:59:47 AM PDT by IrishMike

LONDON, May 24, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - British pop music star Elton John has attacked the Catholic Church and its position on condom use as a reason for the demise of 60 of his friends to the sexually-transmitted disease, AIDS.

Speaking at a business awards ceremony, he said, "We don't have a medical vaccine but we have a social vaccine and it's called education." He failed to include in his so-called education platform that condoms may be a leading reason for the HIV/AIDS epidemic. Even leading health experts at the United Nations have acknowledged that condoms have an estimated 10% failure rate.

Edward C. Green, a senior research scientist at the Harvard School of Public Health explained in 2003 that the one in ten failure rate of condoms protection from AIDS is "not good enough for a fatal disease." He added, "The way condoms are marketed in Africa and other developing parts of the world is as if they were 100 percent safe."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: agenda; aids; blame; catholic; catholicchurch; church; deathupthebutt; eltonjohn; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; idiot; manpurse; religion; savage; thepopemademedoit; weiner
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Another 'pop icon'blasting the church and Catholics.

....demise of 60 of his friends to the sexually-transmitted disease, AIDS..... Demise of 60 friends ??

1 posted on 05/25/2006 7:59:52 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

How can the church be blamed for spreading a disease that wouldn't spread if behavior were modified?


2 posted on 05/25/2006 8:02:22 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: IrishMike

Hey Elton .. the church suggests not to have gay sex

How about you take personal responsibility for your own actions


3 posted on 05/25/2006 8:02:27 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: IrishMike

Oh, Elton... I doubt that any of your friends were anymore influenced by the church's position on condoms any more than they were influenced by the church's position on sodomy...


4 posted on 05/25/2006 8:02:49 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: IrishMike

His friends decided to listen to the church about CONDOMS?!


5 posted on 05/25/2006 8:03:08 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: IrishMike

It's everybody's fault but the Sodomite's. It's a third grade mentality that doesn't take responsibility for its actions.


6 posted on 05/25/2006 8:03:22 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: IrishMike
Again, this argument presumes that there are individuals who are such devout Catholics that they obey the Church's teaching on contraception to the exact letter, but who simultaneously completely ignore the Church's teaching on disordered intercourse.

A convenient but irrational fiction.

7 posted on 05/25/2006 8:04:24 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: IrishMike

You have got to be kidding me? Has Elton ever heard the phrase 'personal responsibilty'? How is it a Gay, or anyone for that matter, makes the choice to screw around yet opts for a religious no-no in the condom department?

That is just so much Bull Hockey...it makes you laugh. WHINE, Elton, Whine.


8 posted on 05/25/2006 8:05:29 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Mo1

This begs for a song but it would probably get pulled.


9 posted on 05/25/2006 8:05:29 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: IrishMike

The men who refused to control their lust even in the face of the risk (known for decades now) of contracting a deadly disease are NOT at fault here. The people who warn them that their practice of sodomy could well kill them are at fault.

Makes perfect sense.


10 posted on 05/25/2006 8:05:39 AM PDT by scory
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To: IrishMike
He's wallowing in the failure of his latest Broadway show. Pretty soon he'll blame the church for that too, and for creating a culture of vampire intolerance.
11 posted on 05/25/2006 8:05:41 AM PDT by Melinda
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To: IrishMike
"For this cause God gave them up into vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet" (Romans 1:26, 27)
12 posted on 05/25/2006 8:13:33 AM PDT by Army MP Retired (There Will Be Many False Prophets)
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To: IrishMike
....so Bruce goes to see the doc who does a thorough examination and finally turns to Bruce and says through clenched lips," I'm not going to lie to you!! I'm gonna give it to you straight. You've got AIDS!!"

"Oh no!" says Bruce, "is there anything that can be done?"

"Listen carefully", says the doc. "I want you to go home and eat.......2lbs of hot sausage meat.....3 cans of baked beans....half a head of cabbage......3 carrots.....10 hot Jalapeno peppers.........half a box of Grape Nuts and I want you to wash the whole thing down with half a gallon of prune juice!!"

"Gee doc, will that cure me?" says Bruce.

"No......",says the doc "but it will teach you what your ass is for!!"

13 posted on 05/25/2006 8:13:45 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: IrishMike
The Catholic Church opposes condom use in relation to its views on birth control. Elton John making the leap from that to gay sex is pretty funny.

Obviously, The Church would have nothing to say about the use of condoms and gays. Why would it? Birth control is not an issue,

14 posted on 05/25/2006 8:13:49 AM PDT by PLK
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To: IrishMike
Wow! Sounds like Elton John is serious about preventing the transmittal of this deadly disease.

I wonder if he supports mandatory testing, a registry of those positive, and criminal charges brought against those positives who engage in sexual activity with other human beings?

I'm guessing that program would be more effective than condoms.

15 posted on 05/25/2006 8:14:44 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: IrishMike

"the one in ten failure rate of condoms protection from AIDS is not good enough for a fatal disease."

Don't most condoms have 'Not for the prevention of disease' clearly printed on the package? I guess the 60 or so friends of Elton that died of Aids were also illiterate along with being degenerate sodomites.


16 posted on 05/25/2006 8:15:09 AM PDT by Leg Olam ("There is no Hell. There is only France." F. Zappa)
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To: IrishMike

I wonder if Elton would have sex with a guy that has AIDS if the guy wore a condom. I somehow doubt that he would.


17 posted on 05/25/2006 8:15:11 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: IrishMike
"We don't have a medical vaccine but we have a social vaccine and it's called education."

Yes. And the lesson is - “Don’t stick you #*&# up some other guy’s #*#.

18 posted on 05/25/2006 8:16:03 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: IrishMike

The only way elton's comment could be true is if his 60 "friends" were molested as children by infected gay priests. Apparently elton agrees that the gay priest scandal has brought much of the problems the church suffers today.


19 posted on 05/25/2006 8:16:19 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: IrishMike

Doesn't the gay community also blame Reagan for aids? After all, he didn't pour billions of dollars of taxpayer money into aids research, therefore he is responsible!!


20 posted on 05/25/2006 8:17:40 AM PDT by Boris99
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To: IrishMike

I suspect the 60 friends of Eltons who died of aids:1)did not use condoms,and 2)had unprotected sex with numerous partners.You play,you pay:(


21 posted on 05/25/2006 8:19:02 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: IrishMike
Why are so many celebrities so utterly lacking in basic logic and reasoning skills?

If you don't want to get a disease that is primarily spread through homosexual sex and drug use, then DON'T HAVE HOMOSEXUAL SEX OR USE DRUGS!

The Bible has been very clear on this for a long time, and so has the Catholic Church.

22 posted on 05/25/2006 8:19:38 AM PDT by SaveTheChief ("This one goes to eleven.")
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To: Sunshine Sister

Haven't you seen the army of Catholic militants standing outside of pharmacies, grocery stores, truck stops and public school health clinics waiting to destroy the incoming cartons of trojans? Haven't you seen the parish members emptying the condom packages and replacing the contents with rosaries? Haven't you seen the effects of the church's campaign to outlaw condom sales to the public? No longer able to buy condoms openly, those who need them are forced to buy on the black market. Sneaking into back alleys to meet with Russian mafia condom kinpins.

How could you have missed this? Oh wait sorry alternate universe for the paranoid is not activated. Never mind.


23 posted on 05/25/2006 8:19:57 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: IrishMike
Wasn't all that long ago every homsexual was blaming Ronald Reagan for AIDS deaths.

Guess their own behaviour never enters into the consequences they garner.

24 posted on 05/25/2006 8:20:07 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: IrishMike

Have another cheeseburger and chocolate cake, Reggie.


25 posted on 05/25/2006 8:22:13 AM PDT by Obadiah (Bushbot...and proud!)
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To: OldFriend

Elton, get the memo: it's not the Church's fault - it's Bush's fault!

Sheesh!


26 posted on 05/25/2006 8:22:28 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Sunshine Sister

Denial of personal responsibility. It's always some authority's fault: the Church, President Bush, right-wing neo-cons, etc etc.


27 posted on 05/25/2006 8:23:02 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Thombo2

You go it, Thombo. Elton's pals probably paid no attention to all of the warnings concerning sex without condoms.

But then, aren't gay folk, in America, largely responsible for the spreading of the disease by partaking in one-night-stand sex with strangers?


28 posted on 05/25/2006 8:23:12 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: IrishMike
And personal responsibility plays no part in it, right, Elton?


29 posted on 05/25/2006 8:23:48 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Support American sovereignty - boycott employers of illegal aliens)
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To: IrishMike

Yep the Catholic Church is responsible for the bare-backing in the San Fran and London bath houses.


30 posted on 05/25/2006 8:24:50 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Army MP Retired

Nice verse, I'll have to remember that.

Thanks.


31 posted on 05/25/2006 8:25:08 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike
Tomorrow's headline today:

Queen Blames Church!


32 posted on 05/25/2006 8:26:00 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Kenton
I doubt that any of your friends were anymore influenced by the church's position on condoms any more than they were influenced by the church's position on sodomy...

Exactly.

33 posted on 05/25/2006 8:26:52 AM PDT by A message
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To: marshmallow

TTTOOOO MMMUUUCCCHHHH !

Brought tears to my eyes.

Thanks.


34 posted on 05/25/2006 8:27:13 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike
Because of course these dead friends slavishly observed Church teaching about condom use while they engaged in activity opposed by Church teaching...


Huh?

"That dudn't make any sense..." (Laura Ingraham soundbite)

35 posted on 05/25/2006 8:30:05 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: IrishMike

We are supposed to believe that gay men will defy the church teachings on sex but follow their teachings on condoms? If they had followed ALL of the Catholic church's teachings they would still be alive today, Elton. So it is YOUR ideas and practices that killed them.


36 posted on 05/25/2006 8:30:37 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: IrishMike

Elton, you poor pathetic fool. Stop trying to rationalize the guilt and responsibility of sin by blaming the Catholic Church. These 60 friends of yours choose self-will in preference to God's Will and are to blame for their own sins.


37 posted on 05/25/2006 8:31:08 AM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: IrishMike

Umm, ok. So they are NOT listening to the Catholic order to not have gay sex, but ARE listening to the Catholic order to not wear condoms... yeah Elton and you are a lumberjack.

Sheesh.


38 posted on 05/25/2006 8:31:34 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: IrishMike

Oh, yeah, like those fairies listened to the Church.


39 posted on 05/25/2006 8:31:37 AM PDT by D.P.Roberts
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To: Rummyfan
My number one frustration is with people who don't take personal responsibility for their actions.

I was once involved in planning a company function for the families of associates. We sent out no less than 10 messages that you MUSY sign up by "X" date. Two weeks after the cutoff date I got an email from some idiot who didn't sign up and wouldn't I hate it if he had to tell his kids they can't go. I sent him bad a short note and told him it was a fine time to teach them a lesson in personal responsibility. He didn't go.

40 posted on 05/25/2006 8:33:10 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: IrishMike

And I'm not suprised that he hasn't yet blamed it all on Bush....

Stupid is as stupid does....


41 posted on 05/25/2006 8:33:58 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Kenton

Well put.


42 posted on 05/25/2006 8:34:19 AM PDT by Theoden (Fidei Defensor)
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To: IrishMike

I think he's blaming the wrong people. I don't think the Pope's the blame for their behavior.


43 posted on 05/25/2006 8:35:43 AM PDT by desherwood7
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To: IrishMike
Complete barfer! Elton John is a walking freakshow and I can't stand him or his music.

The fact he's an outspoken pervert is just more kindling...

BLECCKK! :

44 posted on 05/25/2006 8:35:55 AM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: IrishMike

How can he blame it on the Catholic Church? Everybody knows it's Bush's fault. s/


45 posted on 05/25/2006 8:41:56 AM PDT by rwa265 (Behold, I am with you always. (Matthew 28:20))
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To: IrishMike

Funny. I thought most AIDS was caused by being careless about where they placed their putz.


46 posted on 05/25/2006 8:42:46 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: IrishMike

Elton John must be a moron. Does he not know that AIDs is a behavioral disease? Stop the risky behavior and you end the disease! Unlike cancer, tuberculosis, and other diseases one wants to avoid, AIDs can be cured overnight with behavioral changes, whether it be to stop drug use and dirty drug needles or keeping your zipper up. Send him a telegram!


47 posted on 05/25/2006 8:45:35 AM PDT by olezip
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To: PLK
The Catholic Church opposes condom use in relation to its views on birth control. Elton John making the leap from that to gay sex is pretty funny.
Obviously, The Church would have nothing to say about the use of condoms and gays. Why would it? Birth control is not an issue,

___________________

Your right!

While there is no specific, authoritative Vatican policy on using condoms to protect against AIDS, the Vatican opposes condoms because they are a form of what the church calls artificial contraception.

Pope Benedict XVI repeated the Vatican's position last June, when he told African bishops abstinence was the only "fail-safe" way to prevent the spread of HIV.

48 posted on 05/25/2006 8:47:10 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker ("If a fence doesn't work then why does Bush have one around the White House?")
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To: IrishMike

Shutup John, we're all enjoying the SHORTER lifespan of queers. Well, most of us anyway.


49 posted on 05/25/2006 8:48:18 AM PDT by Waco
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To: IrishMike

Perpetual victimhood.


50 posted on 05/25/2006 8:51:24 AM PDT by onedoug
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