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Canon to stop making single-lens camera
AP (via Yahoo) ^ | 25 May 06

Posted on 05/25/2006 10:08:01 AM PDT by Drew68

Canon to stop making single-lens camera

TOKYO - Japan's top camera maker, Canon Inc., will stop developing new single-lens reflex film cameras as more people abandon film for digital, company officials said Thursday.

The Tokyo-based Canon's move followed a similar move by its closest Japanese rival, Nikon Corp., which announced earlier this year it would stop making seven of its nine film cameras and concentrate on digital models.

Canon will continue making film cameras already on the market as long as their demand remains. Whether to withdraw from the film camera business will be "decided appropriately by judging the market situation," said Canon spokesman Hiroshi Yoshinaga.

Japanese camera makers sold a combined total 64.77 million digital cameras last year globally, compared with 5.38 million film cameras, according to industry figures. Yoshinaga said his company could not disclose the number of cameras sold.

Meanwhile, Tsuneji Uchida, president of Canon, told reporters that demand for film cameras will be limited to "special needs" like camera buffs, Kyodo News agency said.

In January, Konica Minolta Holdings Inc., another Japanese optical manufacturer, said it was quitting the camera business altogether — digital and film — and selling its digital assets to rival Sony Corp.


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KEYWORDS: 35mmcameras; cameras; canon; digitalcameras; kodak; photography
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Can't blame them. I know with absolute certainty that I will never own anything but a digital camera again. Mine is a 5.5 megapixel model that is two years old. It is outdated by know but it still takes photos that print out just as perfect (to my eyes) as a film camera --and I even use the low resolution settings.
1 posted on 05/25/2006 10:08:03 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Canon makes fine digital cameras too. Their revenues won't be hurting. Ditto for Kodak. I like my Sony F717. It will be my camera of choice for many years.
2 posted on 05/25/2006 10:10:46 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Drew68

I think I'll go shoot some Velvia.

3 posted on 05/25/2006 10:11:47 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why did Allah create free will and then demand submission? Wouldn't robots have been easier?)
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To: Drew68
Mine is a 5.5 megapixel model that is two years old. It is outdated by know

Hey, I'm still schleppin' along with this mutt (2.3 MP), complete with duct tape holding the memory card door shut.

4 posted on 05/25/2006 10:12:49 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Drew68
My Dad worked for 37 years at Polaroid.In the last few years of his life,he was heartbroken to see what was happening to Polaroid...and Kodak.I often think that his attitde was similar to the one that a guy who helped design and/or build the WTC might have had on 9/11.
5 posted on 05/25/2006 10:14:09 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Drew68
Canon will continue making film cameras already on the market as long as their demand remains.

The title and article don't match.

6 posted on 05/25/2006 10:15:42 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Drew68

I've got a Vivitar 8.1 megapixel digital camera myself. Very easy to use and takes fantastic pictures. Not to mention I can upload the pictures on-line to Walgreens and pick them up later the same day.


7 posted on 05/25/2006 10:15:55 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Support American sovereignty - boycott employers of illegal aliens)
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To: martin_fierro
Hey, I'm still schleppin' along with this mutt (2.3 MP), complete with duct tape holding the memory card door shut.

That is still really all you need for personal photography. Mine will shoot photos in .tif format but I've never once shot a photo with that much resolution. For obvious reasons, I use lower resoultion so that I can send my photos via email. When I print them out on paper, they look just fine.

I haven't even checked to see what resolution cameras today are capable of shooting.

8 posted on 05/25/2006 10:17:08 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

I still take great shots with my CANON AE-1 Program.

I like to shoot pix of high speed objects, like race cars and airplanes. Digital cameras haven't met my needs yet in the same price range.

But, casual pix are all digital-- a old Kodak point and shoot, and a Fujifilm S5200 5.5MP SLR. 0.01 shutter lag is pretty good.


9 posted on 05/25/2006 10:17:31 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: reagan_fanatic

I bought the Canon 20 D for Christmas. Got the 1.4 lens. My old Pentax ME is officially retired.


10 posted on 05/25/2006 10:18:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Drew68

Well, a digital back [if made modular] could be always attached to an SLR instead of the film back, like they could do with Hasselblads. Lens, viewfinder with exposure metering and the shutter are the same anyway.


11 posted on 05/25/2006 10:18:56 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Drew68

Interesting how many technologies that dominated the 20th century are dying or have died in front of our eyes: film photography, analog audio recordings, land-line telephones. Lots of changes, mostly for the good.


12 posted on 05/25/2006 10:19:22 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: reagan_fanatic
Not to mention I can upload the pictures on-line to Walgreens and pick them up later the same day.

I spent under $80 on an HP Deskjet 5440 and I use their software to edit my photos. I used to use yahoo to print my digital pictures and mail them back to me. I had pretty good results from them. Now I just do it myself (admittedly, it is a little more labor-intensive but the results are just the same).

13 posted on 05/25/2006 10:20:27 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Gay State Conservative
My Dad worked for 37 years at Polaroid.In the last few years of his life,he was heartbroken to see what was happening to Polaroid...and Kodak.I often think that his attitde was similar to the one that a guy who helped design and/or build the WTC might have had on 9/11.

With all due respect to your father, I don't think the two emotions would be that similar.

His attitude would be more similar to what I experienced when the A-12 and F-23 programs were canceled at McDonnell Douglas.

Great products that will never be used again.

14 posted on 05/25/2006 10:20:34 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Drew68

I can recall saying this would happen several years ago and being shouted down. At the time I said it a six megapixel camera seemed like a dream. Now I would say that consumer grade cmeras will reach 20 megapixels by the end of the decade.

Semi-pro cameras like the Rebel will have, by the end of the decade, more resolution and more exposure lattitude than Kodachrome, and good noise specs at ISO 1600.

There are theoretical cameras that can be focused after the exposure, a kind of hologram. The crystal ball is cloudy five years from now. But film will disappear from consumer channels.


15 posted on 05/25/2006 10:22:08 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Drew68
Digital cameras are fine for general usage, but I haven't seen a reasonable price one which can do 1/1000 second or better stop action photography. A cheap 35mm camera just required a roll of high speed film to handle that (at the price of some extra film grain). I also haven't been all that happy with digital's on low light, long exposure shots.

I would love to see a high speed 5+ MPix SLR digital camera for less than $500 so I can change lenses. I also want a pony. :-)

16 posted on 05/25/2006 10:22:42 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: Drew68
I be schleppin' along wid my Olympus 3.0 and it do just fine.

It runs on bat trees so I not be tied to a dock when I want to cruise.

17 posted on 05/25/2006 10:23:14 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: KarlInOhio

My wife's brother lives in Rochester, NY, hometown to Kodak. The HQ's a ghostown. Prices will drop, new features will emerge, but silver film is going the way of the buggy whip and lead type.


18 posted on 05/25/2006 10:24:54 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: 50sDad

The buggy whip is making a comeback.


19 posted on 05/25/2006 10:26:29 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Interesting how many technologies that dominated the 20th century are dying or have died in front of our eyes: film photography, analog audio recordings, land-line telephones. Lots of changes, mostly for the good.

And it is happening so fast! The last time I had a land-line telephone was specifically so that I could use dial-up internet service. Now I don't even have that. I just can't foresee a need for a land-line phone anymore.

AS far as the other technologies you mentioned, I think of the music and movie industries. People can already record studio quality music in their bedrooms with inexpensive software and recording equipment. Soon, people will be making studio-quality, feature-length films complete with high-tech special effects and downloading them on the internet for people to burn onto a dvd.

The entertainment industry will need to be radically overhauled to deal with these new challenges to their hegemony.

20 posted on 05/25/2006 10:26:58 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

I own a Sony MVC-FD95 (2.1 Mega Pixel) and a Sony DSC-V3 (7.2 Mega Pixel. Digital cameras are the ONLY way to go!


21 posted on 05/25/2006 10:28:18 AM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
His attitude would be more similar to what I experienced when the A-12 and F-23 programs were canceled at McDonnell Douglas.

Yes,yours is probably a better analogy.

22 posted on 05/25/2006 10:30:40 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Myrddin
Yes Canon makes great digitals. I have a 8MP 20D. Makes use of the lenses of my Elan 7e and makes some sharp pictures. Would like to get a full frame sensor, but five large is a bit much for me to spend right now.

Still film has a certain unpredicability to it that can make for some interesting photos sometimes.

23 posted on 05/25/2006 10:30:50 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: martin_fierro

You disappointed me..from you, I expected a pic of Matthew Brady's camera...(g)


24 posted on 05/25/2006 10:30:58 AM PDT by ken5050 (GWB, Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, freed hundreds of millions.# of Nobel PeacePrizes: ZERO)
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To: Drew68
The entertainment industry will need to be radically overhauled to deal with these new challenges to their hegemony.

I agree, though the opposite seems to be happening: the entertainment industry, through groups like the RIAA and MPAA, seems bent on crippling consumer technology to preserve it's current business model.
25 posted on 05/25/2006 10:32:19 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Drew68

Landlines aren't dead. There's still plenty of companies going after the landline market. For many individuals landlines are unecessary, but for many they still are, many others just like them, and then for any business that is going to deal with a lot of phone traffic the landline is still king.

I don't think home produced music or movies are going to seriously impact the entertainment industry. People have been able to write their own stories forever and it never hurt the novel market. A lot of the entertainment industry is more about who than what, unless I can play guitar like Jimi Hendrix nothing I ever do at home will satisfy my desire to listen to Jimi Hendrix.


26 posted on 05/25/2006 10:32:56 AM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: 50sDad
My wife's brother lives in Rochester, NY, hometown to Kodak. The HQ's a ghostown. Prices will drop, new features will emerge, but silver film is going the way of the buggy whip and lead type.

No doubt about that. The last time I used one of my film cameras was because I wanted to take some pictures of a lunar eclipse and my digital cameras didn't have the exposure time, remote release or zoom lens to handle it.

I should have taken a digital camera out and put it on a tripod to compare results. I wouldn't have wasted shots trying various exposures without seeing immediate results like I did on the film.

Right now I think the megapixel race is becoming pointless. The difference between a 4 MP and 10 MP will really only show if you blow it up really big or zoom in on a small section of the picture. And if you are compressing it, you lose most of the benefits of the extra pixels anyway. I now want a higher shutter speed more than more pixels.

27 posted on 05/25/2006 10:33:00 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: Drew68
I just can't foresee a need for a land-line phone anymore.

We had a hurricane go through the DC area two years ago; power was knocked out (mostly by falling trees) for a week. That meant no internet OR cell service. The hard wire land line and battery powered radio were our only links to the outside world.

28 posted on 05/25/2006 10:33:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Cincinatus
The hard wire land line and battery powered radio were our only links to the outside world.

Yes, of course satellites will eventually replace the need for cell towers. We already have satellite phones that can be used from anywhere on the globe. Soon, they will be the industry standard. Internet connections will follow.

29 posted on 05/25/2006 10:42:07 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: KarlInOhio
I also haven't been all that happy with digital's on low light, long exposure shots.

I generally agree with you. My Mavica FD-7 was surprisingly good in low-light conditions, which led to a little disappointment with my newer digital SLR even with the large lens I have on it. The point-and-shoot does poorly by comparison to the Mavica, but with such a small lens in front of 6 MP I am not surprised.

30 posted on 05/25/2006 10:46:28 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: Drew68
Yes, but they're not here yet, at least with widespread penetration into the mass market. Thus, land lines are needed for the foreseeable future.
31 posted on 05/25/2006 10:51:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Brad Cloven

Those were beautiful, weren't they? Brings back fond memories, --the sound they made, the clicking motion of winding the film, and the slight shake when the shutter opened. Almost sad to see them go.


32 posted on 05/25/2006 10:52:32 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: KarlInOhio
I would love to see a high speed 5+ MPix SLR digital camera for less than $500 so I can change lenses. I also want a pony. :-)

The Nikon D50 DSLR has shutter speed up to 1/4000, 6.1 megapixels, and costs about $550 new these days.

33 posted on 05/25/2006 10:54:00 AM PDT by FoxInSocks
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To: Drew68
Ahhh, my Canon AE-1.

For just general shooting a digital is fine but if you want to play with the camera and pictures it's hard to beat a 35mm with a good set on lenses, extension tubes, filters, etc.

Wish I had more free time to play with it.

Man, I'm still using my Kodak Digital Science DC50 zoom camera for work.
34 posted on 05/25/2006 11:02:08 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: KarlInOhio

I've seen what I think are digitals laid out like SLRs, with similar apeture and other mechanisms adjusting like the old days, so dyed-in-the-wool photographers can use the electrics? Am I right, or have I slid into a parallel universe?


35 posted on 05/25/2006 11:09:18 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: Drew68; All

If only there was a retrofit digital film unit easily available.

I remember seeing one advertised years ago, but not since.


36 posted on 05/25/2006 11:10:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Brad Cloven
I believe that Nikon had already announced that the F6 would be their last professional film camera. They aren't going to stop making them, but there will be no F7.

I used to have a Nikon FM2, and I loved having a camera that was mechanical. Between it and a sekonik incident light meter I carried around (and the wide latitude affored by Tri X Pan), I loved taking photos for my school papers (in college). I sold it a few years ago, and don't really miss it. If I want to use film, I still have my Olympus OM2n. But I love my Nikon D70s. Digital is fun too, but I miss the exposure latitude.

Mark

37 posted on 05/25/2006 11:11:21 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: 50sDad
I've seen them, but they were more expensive that I wanted to pay ($1000+). One other poster mentioned one at $550 which I'll take a look at.
38 posted on 05/25/2006 11:13:29 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: battlegearboat
The buggy whip is making a comeback.

Bee-HAYVE!

39 posted on 05/25/2006 11:15:01 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: GSlob
Well, a digital back [if made modular] could be always attached to an SLR instead of the film back, like they could do with Hasselblads. Lens, viewfinder with exposure metering and the shutter are the same anyway.

That's what I'm thinking. The optics are important!

40 posted on 05/25/2006 11:20:17 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Drew68

How the mighty have fallen! My realized ambition in college was to own a Canon F1 to shoot the yearbook. The F1 was the ultimate system camera. Over the years I accumulated a number of accessories such as lenses, viewing screens, speed finder and even macro bellows. The thing I still detest about digital camera is the shutter lag time -- nothing beats a leaf-shutter rangefinder for closeup sports photography.


41 posted on 05/25/2006 11:23:54 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (North American distributor for Mohammed Urinals. Franchises available.)
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To: MarkL

Ahh, the Sekonic light meter (which I still have) combined with my Nikon F, 50mm f1.2, 24mm f2.8 and 105 mm f 2.5 were all a budding college photojournalist needed. Combine with Tri-X push to 1,000 ASA.

Digital cameras take great picture while film cameras take great photographys. I look over here at my bookcase and look at a century of great film cameras, Brownie, Zeiss Ikon, Rollie mini 2.8, Rolleflex, Eastman Kodak bellows, Nikon F, Canon A2 with a Contax compact thrown in. Plus more good and bad gadgets than one can count. What memories.


42 posted on 05/25/2006 11:26:25 AM PDT by killroy
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To: Cobra64
The only trouble is the price - Leaf digital back for a Hasselblad is about $20K, and it is not even that great either- about 16 or 20 Mpixels if memory serves. I would be asking for a full-frame chip (56x56mm) and 200+Mpixels in that format. At 100 line pairs per mm a pixel is 5 microns; when photographing in monochromatic light, the same lens could give 300 line pairs per mm - i.e. 1.7 microns per pixel in the center of the frame, double that size at the edge. Say, at 3.3 microns a pixel 290 Megapixels per chip.
43 posted on 05/25/2006 11:38:35 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: GSlob
Do you speak English as well as camera? Just kidding! :^)

Carolyn

44 posted on 05/25/2006 11:45:42 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Drew68

Once digital cameras get to 14 megapixel they will then be as good as film.


45 posted on 05/25/2006 11:47:10 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: CDHart

English is my second language. And as a photographer I am far from spectacular - so I must be equally bad at both.


46 posted on 05/25/2006 11:48:45 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I'm not so sure it's mostly for the good.

Many of the younger folk don't appreciate basic performance quality; they would rather have speed and gizmos instead.

I could be nuts, but I think that although my old 78 records sound scratchier, they still sound better in other ways than do my CDs.

And people who talk to me on cell phones or portable phones are most annoying, because their signal fades in and out and is often not the clearest.

I haven't experienced digital photography yet, so I cannot comment on that.

Speaking of land-line phones, for the quality of basic feature--ruggedness, sound quality, efficient and practical use--no one's yet beat the old Western Electrics Phones. They remain the best.

They even had concave faces on their buttons to ensure more accurate dialing, unlike most crap being sold today, which have convex buttons (probably only because they look good to the moron public).

And where there's the option on a radio, I always switch-off stereo reception. I never saw the point to stereo to begin with, and stereo reception is often not as clear as mono.

47 posted on 05/25/2006 11:51:14 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: LetsRok

See calculation in # 43. for 24x36 mm frame a really good lens could resolve 80-100 megapixels. Best films (Velvia, Kodachrome, TechPan)could resolve up to 300 megapixels in that frame, if the lens were good enough.


48 posted on 05/25/2006 11:53:10 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: AFreeBird
My first digital was a 1.3 MP Sony DSC-S30. It was fine for capture FReeps and TRT activities. Adequate for trips to Yellowstone. It was not good enough to photograph printed circuit boards with sharp focus. That's why I went for the DSC-F717. The macro focus gives very good resolution. When my board vendor needs feedback on a blown component, I can send a high quality digital photograph to show the problem.
49 posted on 05/25/2006 12:01:50 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: battlegearboat

You are right. Weren't pony carts one of Hillary's recommendation the other day for energy conservation? She also adviced keeping them under fifty five miles an hour for greater fuel effeciency.


50 posted on 05/25/2006 12:03:03 PM PDT by em2vn
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